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smokeysbandit
May 7th, 2009, 07:05 AM
Hey guys,
I've been on the road with work a lot lately, but managed to get a full day at home on Tuesday. As such there were some cars waiting to be tuned, one of which is a very high priority. It's a 66 chevelle with an LS7 running an E67 ecm, and is running very poorly. When I went to start my logging and initial tuning I couldn't get access to a lot of the PID's I need. As you can see in the screenshot not only do I have access to very few PID's but categories as well. I'm completely missing the e67 tab. I tried a number of things, including validating PID's, and uninstalling efilive and reinstalling from the latest files on the site. I even tried installing on a laptop the customer had laying around, with the newest version, and the PID's were still missing. All was to no avail, and made for a very frustrating time. When I got home I checked my desktop running v. 7.5.3 build 36 the problem was not there. Did I miss something? It seems the GM and DMA stuff in particular is non existent. Thanks for any help and insight, hopefully I can get this squared away for a Monday tune session.
-Brandon

ScarabEpic22
May 7th, 2009, 07:16 AM
Whoa there man, latest build is 7.5.5 build 84 (85s coming up soon from what I hear). Uninstall EFILive, download 7.5.5 build 72 from the main download page then once its installed run the update program to get build 84. Then validate the PIDs with your FlashScan hooked to your engine. Also you will need to download 8.1.2 and run the update program for it as well, then update V2s bootblock and firmware. There is a sticky joecar made how to do all of this! :D

smokeysbandit
May 7th, 2009, 07:31 AM
Erik,
Sorry, I should have put it somewhere other than in the title, I am running 7.5.5 build 84. in addition to 8.1.2. The screenshot is after completely wiping efilive, reinstalling and attempting to validate pid's.
Thanks.

smokeysbandit
May 7th, 2009, 12:32 PM
So after a few more attempts it seems to be fine. All I did differently was disable my software that protects the registry. Weird. Thanks.

joecar
May 7th, 2009, 01:00 PM
The EFILive software writes/reads some things to/from the registry.

ScarabEpic22
May 7th, 2009, 02:18 PM
Gotcha man, didnt realize you'd upgraded to the latest stuff.

Glad to hear you've got it working now, does your registry software let you add exceptions?

smokeysbandit
May 11th, 2009, 06:57 AM
So I thought I was in the clear, got back to the car today and no go. As soon as I validated the PID's the entire e67 category and its contents disappeared, and I'm back to where the screen-shot left off. E67 was selected as the controller, the OS is 19211212. This has me soo frustrated. HELP!! Thanks
Brandon

joecar
May 11th, 2009, 07:22 AM
I pm'd Tech Support.

smokeysbandit
May 11th, 2009, 07:33 AM
thanks joe! Where abouts in socal are ya? I don't know too many efilive users in the area. I'm in Huntington Beach

Blacky
May 11th, 2009, 07:45 AM
There is a bug with the V7 software that can cause the PIDs not to show up correctly.
After validating the PIDs, or even just loading a log file, or connecting to a vehicle, i.e. anything that may require the EFILive software to update its list of valid/invalid PIDs, the F8 tab page may not get updated to reflect the new PIDs.

Try clicking on one of the column headers which will re-sort the PID list in the order of that column. That has the effect of forcing EFILive to update the list of PIDs in that list.

Regards
Paul

joecar
May 11th, 2009, 07:52 AM
thanks joe! Where abouts in socal are ya? I don't know too many efilive users in the area. I'm in Huntington BeachHey, I'm in Garden Grove, 1 mile north of the 405/22 interchange at Valley St...

We can arrange a meeting sometime. :cheers:

smokeysbandit
May 11th, 2009, 07:54 AM
Thanks for the reply Paul. Unfortunately it had no effect. You're talking about the description, caption, etc columns correct? Not only are the PID's missing but their categories have disappeared. Anything else I could try?

Thanks again,
Brandon

smokeysbandit
May 11th, 2009, 08:38 AM
Hey, I'm in Garden Grove, 1 mile north of the 405/22 interchange at Valley St...

We can arrange a meeting sometime. :cheers:

Whadya know! I'm just down at Springdale and Talbert. a meet up would be fun! Let me know if you'd like to grab a drink or some grub or somthing one of these days.
Cheers!
Brandon

smokeysbandit
May 11th, 2009, 02:21 PM
So another update on this issue. It seems to only be apparent with the e67 controller. I don't know if its all e67's or just this one. Have others had issues with the GMPP computer? I did have bad checksums when I read the factory tune, but after a repair and reflash all seemed fine. In an attempt to trick flashscan I connected and validated to an e38 nearby, selected some PID's and then took the laptop over to the Chevelle. As soon as It connected to the e67 it again lost most of the PID's. I also checked my equipment up against an e40 and an LS1 PCM to insure it wasnt a global problem. I have all pids with other controllers. Even with saved PID selection files, certain PID's just don't show with this car. Is this something that will be fixed in this weeks update Paul? Or is it OS related? I could really use some help on this one as the car needs to get delivered to the customer and without being able to log some of the most basic pids I can't get anything done. As always, thank you for your time!
-Brandon




PS, Here is some porn of what I am working on.
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v204/lotsachevys/Bull/cars/?action=view&current=IMG_0432.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/lotsachevys/Bull/cars/IMG_0432.jpg" border="0" alt="66 chevelle"></a>

Blacky
May 11th, 2009, 03:49 PM
Looks like its the VIN that is not "known" to the Scan Tool, so it is leaving out all the GM.* PIDs.

You have two options:
1. Change the VIN in the PCM to one that starts with one of these combos:

*VINCONFIG

#VIN Config file
#---------- --------------------------------------------------------------------
1G......... gm_enhanced.prn (USA GM)
2G......... gm_enhanced.prn (Canada GM)
3G......... gm_enhanced.prn (Mexico GM)
4G......... gm_enhanced.prn (USA GM)
5G......... gm_enhanced.prn (USA GM)
6G......... gm_enhanced.prn (Australia GM)
6H......... gm_enhanced.prn (Australia Holden)Or 2. Edit the file: \Program Files\EFILive\V7.5\Configuration\sae_generic.txt which contains the list above, and add your vehicle's VIN to the list above, in the same format as the others.

Regards
Paul

Blacky
May 11th, 2009, 03:54 PM
PS, Here is some porn of what I am working on.

Very nice job on the restoration :fluffy:
Paul

joecar
May 12th, 2009, 02:36 AM
Whadya know! I'm just down at Springdale and Talbert. a meet up would be fun! Let me know if you'd like to grab a drink or some grub or somthing one of these days.
Cheers!
BrandonOk.

Nice Chevelle, nice golden yellow colour, '67 is it...?

smokeysbandit
May 12th, 2009, 11:07 AM
DOH!! That fixed it, good eye Paul! Thank you for the compliments. It is a 1966 (hard to tell in this pic), that owes its beauty to the folks I work with. These days I don't get to play with them as much as I used to, but the ol' job still calls me in to make the efi stuff run. If only they could afford me full time these days, I'd go back in a heartbeat.
Thanks again to everyone!
Cheers,
Brandon