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MSURacing
May 14th, 2009, 05:37 AM
Hello everyone,
I have a question in regards to the E38 as a stand alone controller. I have a 08 Tahoe DOD 5.3L. I tried using the stock cal for dyno use, with all the VATS and such turned of in hopes of it working. Bottom lie is, it wouldn't run. So, I reflash with a Manual Z06 Vette cal that I have running with no issues in a sprint car, and poof, it works.
So, what I am thinking is for some silly reason it needs to see the trans controller in order to start. Am I way off here or not? If this is the case, is there a bit I can turn off in order to do this correctly?
I would like to use the stock truck controller due to the fact that I have a stock truck engine. I want to dig into this thing change by change, and using the Z06 box is a bandaid for the situation.
Any help is always appreciated.
GMPX
May 14th, 2009, 11:34 PM
Best bet in these situations is after you have tried to start it (and it fails) check the DTC's. The ECM will usually tell you what is wrong.
I think even on an Auto with the TCM missing they will still run.
I agree with you on sticking with the E38 as the controller, best check what DTC's are getting set and go from there.
ChipsByAl
May 15th, 2009, 04:14 AM
The TCM will let the ECM know the vehicle is in park or neutral. A non-communicating TCM can cause a no start.
GMPX
May 15th, 2009, 10:06 AM
I had thought about that, but then not knowing if they are using the ECM controlled starter I didn't want to say anything. I have a feeling the calibration to enable the engine to start without the clutch pressed also works with the P/N switch.
If they can get the DTC's and something about the P/N switch it there we can sort it out.
Cheers,
Ross
MSURacing
May 15th, 2009, 04:13 PM
SOrry, I should have been more clear. What is happening is I have a starter on the dyno, so it cranks, it has spark, but the injectors are not firing. Not a single click. I will work on it more on Monday.
On a seperate not, I do like the LIngenfelter converter box. It works flawlessly.
gmh308
June 7th, 2009, 11:21 PM
Hello everyone,
I have a question in regards to the E38 as a stand alone controller. I have a 08 Tahoe DOD 5.3L. I tried using the stock cal for dyno use, with all the VATS and such turned of in hopes of it working. Bottom lie is, it wouldn't run. So, I reflash with a Manual Z06 Vette cal that I have running with no issues in a sprint car, and poof, it works.
So, what I am thinking is for some silly reason it needs to see the trans controller in order to start. Am I way off here or not? If this is the case, is there a bit I can turn off in order to do this correctly?
I would like to use the stock truck controller due to the fact that I have a stock truck engine. I want to dig into this thing change by change, and using the Z06 box is a bandaid for the situation.
Any help is always appreciated.
My experience with 5.3 cals is that they dont work that well :grin: but have started ok whether auto or manual. Have seen some cals that wont start until the second key on attempt.
minytrker
August 27th, 2009, 06:44 PM
SOrry, I should have been more clear. What is happening is I have a starter on the dyno, so it cranks, it has spark, but the injectors are not firing. Not a single click. I will work on it more on Monday.
On a seperate not, I do like the LIngenfelter converter box. It works flawlessly.
I have used several of there boxes, much nicer than swapping reluctor wheels out for sure. Did you ever get this sorted out? I ran into the exact same problem with a 6.2 escalade motor as a standalone.
MSURacing
September 4th, 2009, 10:15 AM
no I haven't yet. How did you fix it? Thanks a bunch in advance
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