Conversion - Enquiring Mind wants to know

[55chevdelray]

I have a 55 Chevy that I have put a new LS3 crate motor in, with the E67 controller ( This is a GMPP harness and Controller that goes with this particular crate motor (LS376/480)). If I purchase the EFI Live, will I be able to program the controller? Will the EFI Live software ask for a V.I.N.? Since my car is 54 years old, the VIN number doesn't have the standard number of characters.

Before I buy, I want to know if EFI Live will work with my retrofit conversion.

Thanks for your help..

Brian
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[joecar]

Hi Brian,

Does your crate motor use the LS3 controller mentioned here: http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/Parts/LS_Controller_Kit.jsp

If yes, then I believe it is supported by EFILive.

I pm'd Tech Support for more guidance.

If your controller does work, then EFILive will lock a license to the controller's serial number when you flash that controller (regardless of VIN).

See this: showthread.php?t=9759&highlight=GMPP (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=9759&highlight=GMPP)

[55chevdelray]

Hi Brian,

Does your crate motor use the LS3 controller mentioned here: http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/Parts/LS_Controller_Kit.jsp

If yes, then I believe it is supported by EFILive.

I pm'd Tech Support for more guidance.

If your controller does work, then EFILive will lock a license to the controller's serial number when you flash that controller (regardless of VIN).

See this: showthread.php?t=9759&highlight=GMPP (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=9759&highlight=GMPP)


Yes it is! Just saw it on another thread that it supports the GMPP controller. Thanks, yes was wondering how it locked on. Good to hear..:grin:

[Blacky]

The EFILive software uses the VIN to determine which parameters are available for scanning/logging.

When the software first starts you will be asked to enter a VIN, just enter 1Gxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Only the first two digits are scanned, the rest of the VIN can be xxxxx. Later, you can program any VIN you want into the controller.

You should make the first two digits of the VIN one of:
1G
2G
3G
4G
5G
6G
6H
then it will be handled OK. The rest of the VIN is ignored by EFILive.

If you want the first 2 characters of the VIN to be something other than the list above, let me know and I'll explain how to modify an EFILive config file to accommodate the different VIN.

Regards
Paul

[55chevdelray]

The EFILive software uses the VIN to determine which parameters are available for scanning/logging.

When the software first starts you will be asked to enter a VIN, just enter 1Gxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Only the first two digits are scanned, the rest of the VIN can be xxxxx. Later, you can program any VIN you want into the controller.

You should make the first two digits of the VIN one of:
1G
2G
3G
4G
5G
6G
6H
then it will be handled OK. The rest of the VIN is ignored by EFILive.

If you want the first 2 characters of the VIN to be something other than the list above, let me know and I'll explain how to modify an EFILive config file to accommodate the different VIN.

Regards
Paul

Thanks Blacky, that's helpful to know..:)

[TurboCamaro]

The EFILive software uses the VIN to determine which parameters are available for scanning/logging.

When the software first starts you will be asked to enter a VIN, just enter 1Gxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Only the first two digits are scanned, the rest of the VIN can be xxxxx. Later, you can program any VIN you want into the controller.

You should make the first two digits of the VIN one of:
1G
2G
3G
4G
5G
6G
6H
then it will be handled OK. The rest of the VIN is ignored by EFILive.

If you want the first 2 characters of the VIN to be something other than the list above, let me know and I'll explain how to modify an EFILive config file to accommodate the different VIN.

Regards
Paul


Is there any significance to these first 2 digits? ie. Does 1G or 6H indicate anything?

[Blacky]

Is there any significance to these first 2 digits? ie. Does 1G or 6H indicate anything?

Yes, its part of the first 3 letters of the VIN which identifies the manufacturer.

[WMI]
.=World Manufacturer Index

1GA=General Motors Chevrolet Light Truck (Van) - USA
1GB=General Motors Chevrolet Light Truck - USA
1GC=General Motors Chevrolet Light Truck - USA
1GD=General Motors GMC Light Truck - USA
1GE=General Motors Cadillac Light Truck - USA
1GG=General Motors Isuzu Light Truck - USA
1GH=General Motors Oldsmobile Light Truck - USA
1GJ=General Motors GMC Light Truck - USA
1GK=General Motors GMC Light Truck - USA
1GM=General Motors Pontiac Light Truck - USA
1GN=General Motors Chevrolet Light Truck - USA
1GT=General Motors GMC Light Truck - USA
1GY=General Motors Cadillac Light Truck - USA
1G1=General Motors Chevrolet - USA
1G2=General Motors Pontiac - USA
1G3=General Motors Oldsmobile - USA
1G4=General Motors Buick - USA
1G5=General Motors Pontiac Light Truck - USA
1G6=General Motors Cadillac - USA
1G8=General Motors Saturn - USA

2CN=General Motors Chevrolet Light Truck - Canada
2GB=General Motors Chevrolet Light Truck - Canada
2GC=General Motors Chevrolet Light Truck - Canada
2GD=General Motors GMC Light Truck - Canada
2GT=General Motors GMC Light Truck - Canada
2G1=General Motors Chevrolet - Canada
2G2=General Motors Pontiac - Canada
2G3=General Motors Oldsmobile - Canada
2G4=General Motors Buick - Canada

3GB=General Motors Chevrolet Light Truck - Mexico
3GC=General Motors Chevrolet Light Truck - Mexico
3GD=General Motors GMC Light Truck - Mexico
3GK=General Motors GMC Light Truck - Mexico
3GN=General Motors Chevrolet Light Truck - Mexico
3GT=General Motors GMC Light Truck - Mexico
3GY=General Motors Cadillac Light Truck - Mexico
3G1=General Motors Chevrolet - Mexico
3G2=General Motors Pontiac - Mexico
3G4=General Motors Buick - Mexico
3G5=General Motors Buick Light Truck - Mexico
3G7=General Motors Pontiac Light Truck - Mexico

4GL=General Motors Buick Light Truck - USA
4KB=General Motors Chevrolet Light Truck - USA
4NS=General Motors Oldsmobile Light Truck - USA
4NT=General Motors Saturn Light Truck - USA
4NU=General Motors Isuzu Light Truck - USA

5GA=General Motors Buick - USA
5GR=General Motors Hummer - USA
5GT=General Motors Hummber - USA
5GZ=General Motors Saturn Light Truck - USA
5S3=General Motors Saab Light Truck - USA
5Y2=General Motors Pontiac - USA

6G1=General Motors Chevrolet - Australia
6G2=General Motors Pontiac - Australia
6H8=General Motors Holden - Australia

KL1=General Motors Chevrolet - South Korea
KL2=General Motors Pontiac - South Korea

[Blacky]

What it means to EFILive is that the GM enhanced PIDs will be loaded if it sees a VIN with those first 2 digits. Otherwise, only the SAE generic PIDs will be loaded.

It is controlled by the *VINCONFIG section in \Program Files\EFILive\V7.5\Configuration\sae_generic.txt


# ================================================== ============================
# VIN/config files
# ----------------
#
# This section determines which additional config file(s) should be loaded
# based on the VIN detected in the connected vehicle.

*VINCONFIG

#VIN Config file
#---------- --------------------------------------------------------------------
1G......... gm_enhanced.prn (USA GM)
2G......... gm_enhanced.prn (Canada GM)
3G......... gm_enhanced.prn (Mexico GM)
4G......... gm_enhanced.prn (USA GM)
5G......... gm_enhanced.prn (USA GM)
6G......... gm_enhanced.prn (Australia GM)
6H......... gm_enhanced.prn (Australia Holden)


You can add new VINs to that list of you need/want.

Regards
Paul

[joecar]

Is there any significance to these first 2 digits? ie. Does 1G or 6H indicate anything?1st digit: Country of manufacture (1=USA, 2=Canada, 6=Australia).
2nd digit: Car Company (G=GM of USA, H=GMH/Holden of Australia).

[TurboCamaro]

Thanks