Autotuning without wideband?

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Does anyone know of any autotuning tuturials out there that does not require a wideband?
I am taking a road trip in a few weeks and fear I may not have time to recieve a wideband, get in installed and car tuned in time.
Right now I am running an okay tune but do not want to drive 900 miles with the MS4 cam and the tune it is running.

[swingtan]

There are threads on this in the forum. Try a search and a few will come up. Let me try and summarise for you though....

Without a WB, you can only make a rough guess at tuning the fueling at cruise or "light throttle" settings. Another way of putting it is that you can only tune the "Closed Loop" values. There is no way to really tune the Open Loop or WOT areas without a WB.

Simon.

[-=Mod=-]

Good news! I'll have a PLX Devices SM-AFR iMFD Sensor Module - Wideband O2 Air Fuel Ratio here by Friday from Amazon.
I'm excited to learn and get this car tuned. I have been putting it off for way too long.
I have three weeks to get this done....
:secret:

[joecar]

With the wideband, you'll be able to get it done well before then...

What car/mods do you have...?

[-=Mod=-]

2002 Camaro SS

~~Engine & Drivetrain~~
Street Legal Performance Cold Air Intake
Whisper Carbon Fiber Air Lid
Holly PowerShot Reuseable Air Filter
Ported/Descreened Mass Air Flow Sensor
Street Legal Performance Smooth Bellows
Precisions Racing Components LS6 S1 Heads | Competition CNC Valve Job | PRC Double Spring Kit
Texas Speed & Performance Magic Stick V.4 239/242, .649"/.609" Camshaft 112 LSA
Texas Speed & Performance LS6 Ported Oil Pump
ASP Harmonic Balancer Crank Pulley
Meziere Electric Water Pump
Texas Speed & Performance Chromemoly 7.350" Pushrods
Katech Solid Adjustable Belt Tensioner
Jet Hot Long Tube Headers with 1 3/4" Primaries (Without Oxygen Sensors)
Jet Hot 3" Off Road Y Pipe (catalytic converters not installed but will be included with car)
DynoMax 3" Mandrel Bent Intermediate Pipe
DynoMax 3" Mandrel Bent Over Axle Pipe
Street Legal Performance 345hp Dual Center Mount Exhaust (DCME)w/ High Flow Muffler (Dual 2.5" Exhaust Ports)
Texas Speed & Performance tuned
Hurst Short Throw Shifter
Monster Clutch Co. Level 3 Premium Clutch Package With Chromoly Flywheel
Tick Performance Adjustable Master Cylinder
Monster Clutch Co. Slave Cylinder
Bullet Proofed T56 ~ 1st and 2nd three piece synchronizer rings, 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th carbon kevlar synchronizer rings, front and rear seals, Premium Timken Bearings Included, all main shaft gear bearings, all main shaft bearings & races, all countershaft bearings & Races, input pocket bearing & race, shift fork pads, snap rings, spacers, thrust washers, front bearing preload shims, countershaft preload shims, synchronizer keys/struts, retaining springs, rear countershaft bearing oil funnel, shifter bushing. Billet Keys 1-6 & reverse, Bronze Fork Pads 1-2, 5-6 & reverse, T56 3-4 Steel Shift Fork W/ Bronze Fork Pads, Tremec Bronze Shifter Bushing / Shift Cup Isolator
Oil and transmission fluid changed every 3,000 miles with Royal Purple synthetic oils
Soon to be retuned by EFILive tuned with PLX Wideband


~~Suspension~~
BMR Fabrication Adjustable Pan Hard Bar Poly/Poly Bushings
BMR Fabrication Boxed Lower Control Arms w/ Relocation Brackets Bar Poly/Poly Bushings
BMR Fabrication Strut Tower Brace (painted to match car)
Eibach 35mm Rear Sway Bar / Eibach 25mm Front Sway Bar Bar Poly/Poly Bushings
Eibach Pro Kit Springs (1.2” drop)
Energy Suspension Poly/Poly Transmission Mount
Random Technologies Adjustable Torque Arm (at 0*) Bar Poly/Poly Bushing
Street legal Performanc Bilstein Shocks
Street Legal Performance Bolt On Sub Frame Connectors (Welded On)
AR Torque Thrust 2 17"x11" 48mm offset x4
Nitto 555R 315/35-17 x4
Rotorpros Crossdrilled & Slotted Brake Disks (custom painted by Rotorpros)
Wagner Thermo-quite Semi-metallic Brake Pads
Earl's Braided Brake Lines


~~Interior~~
Ebony Leather
New Passenger Window Motor with Autotrix mod
New Black Carpet with SS Floor Mats (replaced ebony carpet to make interior darker)
Trans Am leather/electric seats with adjustable lumbar and kidney support
Pioneer Premier DEH-P880MP head unit (wired into Monsoon amp)( system is loud and clean)
Pioneer XM Satellite Receiver
iPod Jack
Kenwood 800w Amplifier
MTX Thunderform with Crunch GP10D4
Kicker 08KS6502 KS-Series 6.5-Inch Component System with 1-Inch 25mm Tweeter
Lanzar OPTI65
Lanzar VX430

~~Exterior~~
Carbon Fiber Grill
Whistler headlight mod with Sylvania 9005SU /9006SU
Black/clear corner lenses
Door handles and antenna hole were shaved and car was repainted in 2006.

[-=Mod=-]

The headlights have since went back to stock with whisper mod.

http://i25.tinypic.com/rk60dx.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/ve2osw.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/16gfv3t.jpg

[joecar]

Nice stance...

what year is it...?

[-=Mod=-]

Thanks
2002

Where in SoCal are you? I headed out to LA with a friend in Sept to get his C5 tuned. He is getting 2 PCMs tuned for Germany. One for the sniffer test and one for performance.

[joecar]

I'm in Garden Grove and Mission Viejo.