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A Low Dime
October 4th, 2009, 03:38 PM
I have a 2000 4.3 S10 with the 4L60. Im looking to swap in the 0411 PCM and would also like to add in a tow/haul button, does anyone know if it is doable? If so, does anyone know which pin it would be?

I have the full pin out diagram, it is in excel.

hquick
October 4th, 2009, 03:53 PM
Pin 56 in the RED connector will give you 'valet' mode.
Not sure if that'll do what you want.

ViciousKnid
October 4th, 2009, 04:23 PM
No. that just controls Valet mode and Timing for Nitrous. He needs to know which pin uses Tow/Haul "Performance" mode.

A Low Dime
October 4th, 2009, 04:25 PM
No. that just controls Valet mode and Timing for Nitrous. He needs to know which pin uses Tow/Haul "Performance" mode.

Ah, so that is the pin I need to use for the nitrous "tune"

ScarabEpic22
October 4th, 2009, 06:06 PM
Ah, so that is the pin I need to use for the nitrous "tune"

Yes, read the Custom OS tutorial, that will give you the info you need regarding N2O.:cheers:

GAMEOVER
October 5th, 2009, 02:50 AM
I have a 2000 4.3 S10 with the 4L60. Im looking to swap in the 0411 PCM and would also like to add in a tow/haul button, does anyone know if it is doable? If so, does anyone know which pin it would be?

I have the full pin out diagram, it is in excel.

I finally acquired a 0411 for my V6 s-10 too...:D

ScarabEpic22
October 5th, 2009, 07:19 AM
I finally acquired a 0411 for my V6 s-10 too...:D

But then you cant test the Vortec stuff anymore! Haha the 0411 swap is worth it from what Ive heard, good luck with it!

GAMEOVER
October 5th, 2009, 08:35 AM
But then you cant test the Vortec stuff anymore! Haha the 0411 swap is worth it from what Ive heard, good luck with it!

I know, I've been waiting for Paul to release it in the(Beta) BBR controllers...My s-10 has just been sitting there taking up space...:D
I got rear-ended in my 08 Silverado by a freaking 80,000lb Semi-Truck w/Trailer at a red light,:cussing:
Scared the "F&%#ing CRAP OUT OF ME", the good thing was I saw him coming thru my rear-view mirror and I mashed the Gas Pedal right before he hit me!!!
So my truck is in the shop and I gotta drive my S-10 this week...:)

ScarabEpic22
October 5th, 2009, 09:22 AM
I know, I've been waiting for Paul to release it in the(Beta) BBR controllers...My s-10 has just been sitting there taking up space...:D
I got rear-ended in my 08 Silverado by a freaking 80,000lb Semi-Truck w/Trailer at a red light,:cussing:
Scared the "F&%#ing CRAP OUT OF ME", the good thing was I saw him coming thru my rear-view mirror and I mashed the Gas Pedal right before he hit me!!!
So my truck is in the shop and I gotta drive my S-10 this week...:)

Crap man thats scary! Sounds like you're ok then?

Bummer, think my summer DD will be an 02 Civic Im trying to pickup off a buddy for nothing. He got 40+mpg at 85mph over a 400mi trip, cant beat that.

GMPX
October 5th, 2009, 10:22 AM
Bummer, think my summer DD will be an 02 Civic Im trying to pickup off a buddy for nothing. He got 40+mpg at 85mph over a 400mi trip, cant beat that.
I found a picture of that car too Erik, it looks great :hihi:.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/leodon/riceboy.jpg

GAMEOVER
October 5th, 2009, 11:55 AM
I found a picture of that car too Erik, it looks great :hihi:.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/leodon/riceboy.jpg

HAhahahahaha!!!:rotflmao:

ScarabEpic22
October 5th, 2009, 03:23 PM
Thanks, exactly what it looks like. Now I just need to buy all the plywood and screws and it'll look the same!

joecar
October 5th, 2009, 04:37 PM
It needs a 3-layer wing, and some decals on the side...

A Low Dime
October 5th, 2009, 04:47 PM
I finally acquired a 0411 for my V6 s-10 too...:D


Mine will be here Friday. I got it for $10 shipped. :hihi:



I got rear-ended in my 08 Silverado by a freaking 80,000lb Semi-Truck w/Trailer at a red light,:cussing:
Scared the "F&%#ing CRAP OUT OF ME", the good thing was I saw him coming thru my rear-view mirror and I mashed the Gas Pedal right before he hit me!!!


Holy sh$t! :Eyecrazy: You got any pics?

rennoc442
October 8th, 2009, 10:00 AM
hey check out D0409 in your tune, That should help ya.

ScarabEpic22
October 8th, 2009, 10:40 AM
Well you guys can all rest assurd, I wont be driving a Civic anytime soon. Its too far totaled to be fixed for less than 5k so not worth it as a cheap DD.

Anyone have a beatup Cavalier, G5/6, Cobalt they wanna sell me for like $1500? ha

poconojoe
October 8th, 2009, 01:42 PM
If any of oyu guys doing the 411 V6 swap need any base files to start wirh email me at poconojoe@verizon.net I have several that I could send you as BIN files. I'm going to being the 411 swap later to my 4.3, I'm just putting in to replace my 2.2. I'm also planing later on, using a 411 to run my syclone

blindawg
September 21st, 2010, 02:26 PM
hey check out D0409 in your tune, That should help ya.

i looked in this, and on the two switches section it says either perormance or manual.... what is ither manual? ik it probably explains itself, but just to be clear, it would be me acually phisicaly shifting it from 1-2, then 2-3, then 3-4?

Thanks guys.

nevinsb
September 21st, 2010, 03:56 PM
Didn't some of the blazers (Maybe it was the bravada) have a button on the center console for towing?

joecar
September 21st, 2010, 08:16 PM
The manual mode switch was for starting in second gear...

The 2nd shift lever position in some earlier 4L60E's allowed shifting 1->2... so the manual mode switch locked it in 2nd gear.

The newer 4L60E's will hold 2nd gear when the shift lever is in 2nd.

blindawg
September 22nd, 2010, 01:44 AM
But it already holds second gear?

joecar
September 22nd, 2010, 02:47 AM
Then you don't really need the switch.

The applications where the shift lever holds manual 2nd did not come with a manual mode switch.

ChipsByAl
September 22nd, 2010, 04:41 AM
The 2001 Envoy had a tow/haul switch.
"Tow/haul mode enables the operator to achieve enhanced shift performance when towing or hauling a load. When tow/haul mode is selected, the tow/haul switch input signal to the body control module (BCM) is momentarily toggled to zero volts. This signals the powertrain control module (PCM) to extend the length of time between upshifts and increase transmission line pressure. Cycling the tow/haul switch again disables tow/haul mode and returns the transmission to a normal shift pattern."

On the 411 PCM, you can enable Performance mode with D0409 as well. You won't have any info in the cluster alerting you though.
Al

blindawg
September 22nd, 2010, 08:12 AM
aaahhhh.... ok, i was pretty dang confused. thanks joecar.

and the tow/haul would use the performance tables?

Thanks,
Branden

joecar
September 22nd, 2010, 11:08 AM
Yes, tow/haul uses the Performance tables.

blindawg
September 22nd, 2010, 01:42 PM
i understand it all now. thank you very much sir.

Branden

joecar
September 22nd, 2010, 02:13 PM
No worries... :cheers: