Dyno integration complete

[GMPX]

Well, October has been a big month already at EFILive with Black Box Reading released, the LBZ DSP2/5 custom OS's released and now we are pleased to show off our latest achievement, yet another first for the GM tuning industry.

Going back some years EFILive was the first to release a USB based scanner for the LS1 that allowed the user to log the voltage from a wideband controller using our V1 hardware. Whilst this works well it has some drawbacks with voltage offsets and noise which may result in inaccurate AFR readings.
With the V2 hardware we were then able to introduce the logging of wideband controllers via the V2 hardware serial port. This completely eliminates problems of voltage offsets and noise issues.

Now we have gone many steps forward and have implemented total integration from the EFILive Scantool to the Dyno PC. This enhancement allows tuners to log dyno data within the EFILive scantool. Now you can log power figures, mixture data from gas analysers or any other device the Dyno PC is able to get inputs from. EFILive is also able to send the engine data back to the Dyno PC.

Most of these features are in the latest EFILive download as many have already noticed the new Dyno PID's, we expect a full stable release for both EFILive and the Mainline dyno PC to be out before we head off to SEMA.

Many thanks to the staff at Mainline / Dynolog for assisting with this project and Melbourne Performance Centre for allowing us to beat up on their car. We will be continuing to work with Dynolog on more exciting enhancements now that the dyno is talking to the scantool.

Below is the photo's of some real world testing of this enhancement.

All strapped on ready to make some noise.
http://download.efilive.com/Staff/GMPX/Dyno1.jpg

The Mainline Dyno controller
http://download.efilive.com/Staff/GMPX/Dyno2.jpg

And the end result, dyno data along side engine data
http://download.efilive.com/Staff/GMPX/DynoLog1024.png

[5.7ute]

Awesome work guys.
I am heading down to Adelaide in two weeks & would love to get this going on Brads Mainline while I am down there.(If he will let me):hihi:
Now to start working out some pids for the roadrunner.

[GMPX]

Between EFILive and Mainline we need to tidy a few things up in the software, minor stuff, it's really all 99% done, so hopefully within your two weeks time frame Mainline users will have the upgrade option available to them.
For people using other dyno companies the specification for the data streams is published in the pdf document 'EFILive FlashScan Serial Protocol.pdf' in the V8 folder. We can certainly customise each data stream as needed, it's not 100% fixed in to what data is transmitted. So fingers crossed for you all that they want a piece of the action too.

[5.7ute]

Will this lead into the MBL/MBT calibrating like what Donnon is doing with other software?

[GMPX]

Will this lead into the MBL/MBT calibrating like what Donnon is doing with other software?
Who?
I believe Motec and maybe Autronic talk to the dyno too, not sure about other factory PCM tuning software.

Dynolog has some great ideas, but we won't let the cat out of the bag on those yet

[mr.prick]

OH NO!
Another reason not buy the "other guys" hardware/software. :bawl:

[5.7ute]

Post 223 in this thread. http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=115504&highlight=road+tuning+versus+dyno&page=15

[GMPX]

Post 223 in this thread. http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=115504&highlight=road+tuning+versus+dyno&page=15I'm not a member, I can't see it.

[5.7ute]

I'm not a member, I can't see it.

No stress. I should be able to write some pids that will do the same job with the roadrunner.
Now to persuade Brad to get the update as soon as its available.(might take a couple of bottles though)

[5.7ute]

Ross, how do you think this approach would work?
First work out if any change has a positive or negative effect. To do this we make a pid for delta torque.
DT = dx(torquepid,6)
then we need to make a correction factor for the roadrunner pcm
correction = iff(GM.KR<1,iff(DT>1,0.1,-0.2),-2)
link this pid to the spark & fuel tables using the + operator & should be good to go.
By starting the timing low & the AFR on the rich side it should safely work up to MBT &
best AFR for the selected tables cell.

[limited cv8r]

Try this link also, found this over at efi101,dyno section,titled "MBT Live - Thoughts/Suggestions" http://www.efi101.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3668

pity I own the other brand.

[GMPX]

Just relax, Andrew Elder at Dynolog has all this and more running around in he's head. Watch this space is the best answer I can give at the moment.

[Afterhours Performance]

Nice work guys!!

[Doc]

"If you're happy and you know it clap your hands"-(hands clapping profusly).

[joecar]

Very cool...:cheers:

[dc_justin]

We played around with this a bit last Wednesday, was great seeing many of my selected PIDs on the dyno screen. Didn't have the V2 firmware updated so we weren't able to log the dyno data with EFILive, but I can't wait to get in there in the days leading up to SEMA.

BIG fan of the mainline here. :cheers:

[Redline Motorsports]

We'll I'm hard over this!!!!

We just recently installed a Dynomite Dynomometer which has the ablity to bring in other inputs like this. I really wanted to record HP/TQ on the EFI log which I think I can get a 0-5 v output say scaled from 0-1000 HP and use one of the 0-5 inputs and make a pid.

What protocol is this happening in????

Howard

[joecar]

Howard, this is using RS-232 serial protocol.

[GMPX]

We'll I'm hard over this!!!!

We just recently installed a Dynomite Dynomometer which has the ablity to bring in other inputs like this. I really wanted to record HP/TQ on the EFI log which I think I can get a 0-5 v output say scaled from 0-1000 HP and use one of the 0-5 inputs and make a pid.

What protocol is this happening in????

HowardHoward, the whole point of this is to get rid of the 0-5V system, gathering data via the serial port has many advantages.
It looks like your dyno company would be able to do this, from their webpage "RS-232 and USB ports for output to a PC with DYNO-MAX software option"
If you have a good technical contact there please let us know :)

Cheers,
Ross

[JezzaB]

Thought I would pop into work yesterday and do a little testing with the V2 and the Mainline. I have been doing alot of testing previously to get the V2 to log into the Mainline and we got that going quite well but havent touched it in a while.

Works very well. Just need to setup a few configuration things on the mainline to select which devices to send etc but it is going to be a very very good thing!

Jez