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Blacky
September 15th, 2010, 07:11 PM
We've activated the pass-through reading mode in the V8 software. You can download the V8 software update here: V8 Pass-Through Pre-Release (http://download.efilive.com/Software/V8/EFILiveV8.1.2.115_Setup.exe) (18MB)

There have been a number of changes, most notably:



Look and feel of the V8 software has been updated.

The royal blue menus down the left side have been replaced with by menus with a more neutral tone.
The menu options have been animated to provide better feedback.


FlashScan/AutoCal firmware has been updated.

Latest firmware is V2.06.41
It has been updated to support more features required for the V8 pass-thru reading mode. After updating the firmware, you MUST update all the files in the [Config] file system to the latest ones provided with this V8.1.2.115 update.


Pass-through reading has been added.

Select the "F4: Calibration Tuning" option to start pass-thru reading.
Click on the [Auto Detect] button to allow EFILive to discover the programmable controllers that are available in your vehicle. If your controller is not recognized or mis-identified, right click on the shaded gray area to select the correct controller.
A green tick indicates the controller is selected and is supported by EFILive's V8 pass-thru reading mode. A red cross indicates that the controller is not supported by EFILive's pass-thru reading mode.
Click on the controller (engine or transmission) that you want to read.
Click the [Go] button to start reading.


Folder locations have changed.

Please backup any files that exist in the \ProgramData\EFILive\V8 folder that you do not wish to be deleted. This installation will only save the EFILive files from that folder before deleting it.
NOTE The folder \ProgramData\EFILive\V8 is specific to Vista and Win7. For WinXp/Win2K users the folder is called: \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EFILive\V8.
During the installation, the following folders/files will be moved:
\ProgramData\EFILive\V8 folder is MOVED to \Program Files\EFILive\V8 (then \ProgramData\EFILive is deleted)
\ProgramData\EFILive\V8\Config\*.txt files are MOVED to \My Documents\EFILive\V8\Config\*.txt
\ProgramData\EFILive\V8\Config\*.dat files are MOVED to \My Documents\EFILive\V8\Config\*.dat
\Program Files\EFILive\V8\Splash Screens folder is MOVED to \My Documents\EFILive\V8\Splash Screens



If you encounter any problems using any part of the V8 software, please post about it in this thread.

Regards
Paul

GMPX
September 15th, 2010, 07:40 PM
Just a short note, for people reading either the E39 ECM or E78 ECM we would appreciate you Emailing support the stock files you gather. We think we have all known OS's covered for when programming is released but we would like to make sure. Programming is tested and working on the bench, we will wait and see what things happen with the read only release at this stage, if all goes well, programming will be out very soon.

For anyone wondering about the LML release, no, it's not in here, hey it's a Bosch ECM, what more can we say.

And please let us know what you think about the new look and feel of EFILive V8.

The E39 ECM covers the following SIDI engines (LF1, LFW, LAF):
2010 Buick LaCrosse 2.4L, 3.0L
2011 Buick Regal 2.4L
2010-2011 Cadillac CTS 3.0L
2010-2011 Holden Commodore 3.0L
2010-2011 Cadillac SRX 3.0L
2010-2011 Chevrolet Equinox 2.4L, 3.0L
2010-2011 GMC Terrain 2.4L, 3.0L

The E78 ECM covers the following engines (L96, LUJ):
2011 Chevrolet Cruze 1.4L Turbo
2011 Chevrolet 2500 Pickup 6.0L (L96 only)

Thanks,
Ross

Cougar281
September 16th, 2010, 03:50 AM
The "Black Box Setings" section isn't remembering the last Options.txt that was opened.... Is it suppposed to?

joecar
September 16th, 2010, 07:38 AM
First read it from your V2.

Cougar281
September 16th, 2010, 10:38 PM
First read it from your V2.

Nope. Even after reading it from my V2, it still doesn't remember the list.

joecar
September 17th, 2010, 02:41 AM
The pathname of the folder where the Options.txt is kept is now different...
try this: Read from V2, then Save to My Documents\EFILive\V8\Config, then restart V8.

If that doesn't work, then maybe try uninstall/reinstall.

Blacky
September 17th, 2010, 05:16 AM
The "Black Box Setings" section isn't remembering the last Options.txt that was opened.... Is it suppposed to?
Yes, its supposed to. But it looks like it is not.
Same problem with Settings.dat.
We'll get it fixed. Thanks for finding it.

Regards
Paul

Cougar281
September 17th, 2010, 09:18 AM
It seemed to read my LBZ ECM fine, although the V8 tool thinks the OS and Boot Block are bad, but it was unable to autodetect the TCM. When I manually selected it, it gave a script error.
9011

GMPX
September 17th, 2010, 09:28 AM
The error is normal (for the moment), Bosch ECM's don't allow full reading, we do some tricks in V7 to get all the OS info, that is not in V8 yet.
Are you able to please Email support your stock Allison file you will have read with V7? We probably just need to add more info to V8 so it see's the TCM. Not sure on the script error at this stage.

Cougar281
September 17th, 2010, 09:34 AM
The error is normal (for the moment), Bosch ECM's don't allow full reading, we do some tricks in V7 to get all the OS info, that is not in V8 yet.
Are you able to please Email support your stock Allison file you will have read with V7? We probably just need to add more info to V8 so it see's the TCM. Not sure on the script error at this stage.

Understood :thumb_yello:

E-Mail sent with .ctd & .tun files from the same TCM.

driver456
September 18th, 2010, 06:44 AM
Works great,No problems................Paul

GMPX
September 19th, 2010, 07:00 PM
Understood :thumb_yello:

E-Mail sent with .ctd & .tun files from the same TCM.
Those files must have got junked, support has not seen them yet. Can you please resend and leave the word viagra out of the Email this time :grin:

Tordne
September 19th, 2010, 07:36 PM
Email address is support@efilive.com :)

Edit: Yeah I don't need any Viagra emails, my wife has signed me up to enough lists already it seems LOL

cumminsDK
September 20th, 2010, 01:31 AM
i just went down to our local GM dealer and the service manager who somewhat understands the diesel aftermarket was quite eager to allow me to connect to a 2011 LML. however i then realized i wasn't able to read the ECM (Selected LML and picture showed up with red X) when will this be available?

joecar
September 20th, 2010, 02:36 AM
Yah, watch out he reports stuff like that back to HQ.

Cougar281
September 20th, 2010, 02:41 AM
I'm a tard.... sent the files to suppot@efilive.com :doh2:

You guys should have them now.

Tordne
September 20th, 2010, 06:32 AM
Thanks, got them this time :)

Blacky
September 20th, 2010, 08:28 AM
i just went down to our local GM dealer and the service manager who somewhat understands the diesel aftermarket was quite eager to allow me to connect to a 2011 LML. however i then realized i wasn't able to read the ECM (Selected LML and picture showed up with red X) when will this be available?
We're currently battling with the LML's Bosch controller. Right now we don't have a time frame on support for the LML. Its proving to be a very difficult controller to access, even more so than the LBZ/LMM controllers.
Regards
Paul

L31Sleeper
September 20th, 2010, 08:46 AM
I thought Ross would be the one battling Bosch ?

Blacky
September 20th, 2010, 08:48 AM
I thought Ross would be the one battling Bosch ?
"We're" means Ross, with moral support from the rest of the crew :)
Paul

bballer182
September 20th, 2010, 01:41 PM
"we're" means ross, with moral support from the rest of the crew :)
paul

lol

GMPX
September 20th, 2010, 01:45 PM
Including professional therapy every Friday to clear my mind for the weekend :Eyecrazy:
Is it a valid defence to use "The Bosch ECM made me do it" I heard voices, and they had a German accent, they were laughing too.....it was very scary your honour.

ScarabEpic22
September 20th, 2010, 04:46 PM
Ugh, another Boschism for Ross in the form of the LML? Not cool, but it seems the rest of GM's lineup has moved back to Delphi ECMs now, no?

Tordne
September 20th, 2010, 04:49 PM
Seems most of the others are Delphi yeah. There was a glimmer of hope (for a brief moment) that the LML might have been Delphi as well. You can imagine Ross' disappointment when it arrived with a side of Sauerkraut.

GMPX
September 20th, 2010, 04:58 PM
Actually, dealing with the Bosch ECM on the LBZ/LMM was tolerable, although the code structure was weird and hard to follow, it was just a good old Freescale PowerPC CPU.
The LML is a further shift away from 'the norm', Bosch's weird code combined with a new CPU, the PowerPC is gone in favour of an Infineon Tri-Core. No, it's not a 3 core CPU, just some marketing spin.

ScarabEpic22
September 20th, 2010, 06:07 PM
Actually, dealing with the Bosch ECM on the LBZ/LMM was tolerable, although the code structure was weird and hard to follow, it was just a good old Freescale PowerPC CPU.
The LML is a further shift away from 'the norm', Bosch's weird code combined with a new CPU, the PowerPC is gone in favour of an Infineon Tri-Core. No, it's not a 3 core CPU, just some marketing spin.

Never thought Id see the day when anything Bosch was tolerable coming from you! I know how hard your worked getting into it then working through it, Ive resorted to only writing code for myself now because it makes my head spin.

Cool, a fake 3 core CPU. Just what ever ECM needs haha.

Duramax 6.6L
September 21st, 2010, 03:07 AM
Does it look like there will be a problem writing the code for the new LML. I just bought one.

Duramax 6.6L
September 21st, 2010, 03:22 AM
Do you think that there will be a problem with the LML bosch ecm.

With the new Allison, I know that line pressures are controlled by the TCM, With you be able to adjust this?

I just bought 5 of these trucks.

8100 Power
September 21st, 2010, 03:49 AM
Do you think that there will be a problem with the LML bosch ecm.

With the new Allison, I know that line pressures are controlled by the TCM, With you be able to adjust this?

I just bought 5 of these trucks.

Never hurts to have five :D

GMPX
September 21st, 2010, 09:55 AM
Does it look like there will be a problem writing the code for the new LML. I just bought one.
Yes, it's being quite difficult, I would suggest GM have taken further steps to stop you messing with your truck.

DURAtotheMAX
September 30th, 2010, 04:21 PM
so the LML support isnt looking good? :shock:

GMPX
September 30th, 2010, 04:29 PM
I wouldn't rush out and buy a truck yet. Look, it's only been out for a couple of months, so it is still early days.
The LML ECM is based on the EDC17 platform, but probably a little GM specific. Now just as an example, nobody in Europe (the home of Bosch tuning) can tune Diesel BMW's using this ECM, they even blocked off a special boot mode where the flash can be accessed via some debug ports.
It's not looking like this is going to be a friendly computer, still, maybe when LML's keep getting embarrassed at Diesel events by FORD's and Dodges GM might realise that the after market helps sell more vehicles for them than some sports star they pay millions of dollars to.

DURAtotheMAX
September 30th, 2010, 05:12 PM
Just out of curiosity Ross what controller does the new ford 6.7 use? As far as I know the whole fuel injection system is more or less the same as the LML's.

For those european markets that block off the ECM completely, what happens when BMW releases updates to address driveability issues or other software updates? Or do they just hope they get it right the first time? :D

GMPX
September 30th, 2010, 05:16 PM
FORD, I have no idea.
BMW can flash them, with RSA keys to get in. So tuners are stuck two fold there, they can't read the ECM to get the tune, and even if they had the tune they can't flash it back in! The manufacturers won't ever lock themselves out.

DURAtotheMAX
September 30th, 2010, 05:38 PM
hmmm thats too bad. Oh well, I was not planning on getting a new truck anytime soon either way. Hopefully someone will come out with a harness box in the meantime to keep the LML guys happy while the efilive crew does some more pondering as to whether or not its realistic.

Its too bad GM makes it so hard; they really are shooting themselves in the foot. If I were them I would make it easy to access like the LB7/LLY, but add some 'impossible to bypass' tattle-tale in the ECM that redflags it as soon as its tuned with a non-GM calibration (like the LMM).

Boom...protects GM from fraudulant warranty claims, and allows guys [who dont care about risking their engine] to represent GM in the strongest way possible in the aftermarket performance competition field...

ben

GMPX
September 30th, 2010, 05:40 PM
I agree, the LMM system of tracking CVN's was good in a sense that GM probably felt happy, the bad part is it's now come to this for LML owners. I'm not saying it's not going to be possible to tune them, just not as quickly as we thought it might happen.

chevy052500hd
October 1st, 2010, 01:34 PM
are they making it hard to tune to conform with emission laws?

joecar
October 1st, 2010, 03:07 PM
They're making it hard to tamper with (for both warranty claims and emissions laws).

8100 Power
October 1st, 2010, 03:45 PM
That puts a damper on my night. I just sold my LBZ, hoping I could tune my new 2011. :(

Blacky
October 1st, 2010, 06:26 PM
A new V8 software pre-release update is now available here:
http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?14522-V8-Pass-Through-Reading-Flashing-Support-%28pre-release%29

Regards
Paul

nevinsb
October 1st, 2010, 06:28 PM
Thanks Blacky!

Duramax 6.6L
October 8th, 2010, 09:03 AM
That puts a damper on my night. I just sold my LBZ, hoping I could tune my new 2011. :(

I did not get rid of my LBZ yet, but I purchased a fleet of the new 2011 Dmax's hoping they would be tunable.