E39 2011 Turbo Regal LHU Cal File ?

[ls9monte]

Anyone willing to share an E39 2011 Regal Turbo LHU engine cal file?

Can't wait to compare to E69 LNF file.

Thanks

[GMPX]

It will be totally different. The calibration strategies Bosch use vs GM's own in house code (which is what the E39 runs) is totally different.
We are close to releasing another calibration update for the E39 that will have some important tables needed for overcoming the very strict torque limiting the E39 has.

[ls9monte]

I know the strategies are different, but the E39 looks like it offeres more options (i.e. Flex fuel and better boost control) than the stupid Bosch E69 ECM. I am investigating converting to the E39 for various LNF/LHU custom/retrofit vehicles instead of the E69.

I was looking for the E39 Turbo cal because I have not have a chance to TIS flash my service E39 yet.

[GMPX]

the stupid Bosch E69 ECM.
You have a friend for life with that comment alone :hihi:
The difference will come down to the High Pressure pump control and injector firing between what the E39 can drive and what the Bosch uses.

[350SS]

Anyone have a copy of this file they'd be willing to share? I'd like to ditch my e69 pcm if possible...

[GMPX]

Ditch it to what? You can't swap an E39 ECM in place of the E69.

[350SS]

This is a retrofit using the lnf engine so we'd just swap wiring harnesses, sensors, ecm etc. Just gauging if its even possible since I already have efilive and would like to stay away from the bosch stuff

[GMPX]

You need to do some research on the difference between the injectors and the high pressure pump between the two engines (as I suggested in Post #4). Maybe a Motec would be a better option.

[64camino]

The high pressure pump is the same p/n between the two. Injectors are a different p/n but use the same wiring harness and externally look identical.

[350SS]

It looks like they have different part numbers for the 2007-2009 vs 2010 up injectors and high pressure pump... Is this something that you know are incompatibile or just making a helpful suggestion? I don't know much about differences in the direct injection type injectors that are used in these applications. Any ideas on how to find out who they're manufactured by?

[350SS]

The high pressure pump is the same p/n between the two. Injectors are a different p/n but use the same wiring harness and externally look identical.

Where did you see that the pumps are the same?

[64camino]

GM Parts Catalog. 2009 Chevy Cobalt ss 12629135. 2012 regal 2.0(LHU) same 12629135.

[350SS]

hmmm, the catalog I looked in had a part number 12625764 for '08 cobalt ss :doh2:

maybe the new number superceeds this one?

[64camino]

Yeah, that part number was superceded by the new one in Dec, 2010.

[350SS]

that's good news...

[GMPX]

What about the throttle, pedal, they will need to match as well.

[350SS]

and need to make sure the crank/cam reluctors are the same... probably other things too which is why I wanted to take a look at the .bin file to see if it has enough potential for tuning over the bosch stuff. depending on how many drivetrain parts interchange maybe not :(

anyone have a file I can check out? didn't see one in the tune repository

[coors1436]

I know this is a faily old thread, I've only recently been reading in the section after i bought a regal gs, if you're still looking for a 2.0 turbo tune i'd be willing to send you one

[350SS]

I know this is a faily old thread, I've only recently been reading in the section after i bought a regal gs, if you're still looking for a 2.0 turbo tune i'd be willing to send you one

:rockon: awesome, I'll pm you my email...thanks!

[350SS]

I know this is a faily old thread, I've only recently been reading in the section after i bought a regal gs, if you're still looking for a 2.0 turbo tune i'd be willing to send you one

Hey there, tried to pm but for some reason the forum won't let me?

If you're still up for sending the cal file my email is maxcornelius (at ) yahoo (dot) com

Thanks in advance.

[ls9monte]

Yes, I would still like a copy of LHU cal. Thanks

[ScarabEpic22]

Just clean the VIN (put 0s in the last 8 digits so the personal info isnt there) and upload it here, Id like to see it as well. Plus no more emailing it all over the place. :D

[350SS]

haven't received it yet...what a tease :)

[Boost]

So you guys don't do what I do? Go to a dealer for a test drive and then say "I am only buying this car if my personal laptop can communicate with it" :laugh: "that way I can upload songs and customize the dash"... I know I am a bit unorthodox. :lookaround: then when you are done, say "nope, not yet but let me update my stuff and check you in a couple weeks". I am an artist... :nuke:

[350SS]

genius :)

you don't happen to feel like taking a turbo regal with manual transmission for a test drive anytime soon?

[Boost]

I may :) Though it's not on my schedule any time soon :(

But I will keep you in mind when I go "check" the Verano T again!!!

[slammed39]

Here's a 2012 Regal LHU cal. It's from the non-GS (flex fuel) trim.

14384

[ScarabEpic22]

Here's a 2012 Regal LHU cal. It's from the non-GS (flex fuel) trim.

14384

Thanks!

Do you have the TCM file as well?

[slammed39]

That's a manual cal.

[ScarabEpic22]

That's a manual cal.

Thanks for the confirmation, the trans type says clutch-to-clutch so I figured it was an auto.

[Boost]

Thank you slammed39!

[Sweet35th]

I just picked up a 2013 regal gs. I'm more versed in ford tuning, but I can do what I can to help if I can get help along the way too. Would love to get this thing on the dyno and start playing.

[Boost]

Congrats on the sweet car!!! Let us know how it goes :D

[Sweet35th]

Have you played with any yet?

[Boost]

I have looked at the their tunes and it all looks very familiar. I would definitely love to have one. As a matter of fact, they have the same exact engine as a Verano T. Send me file if you wish, I would love to see what's new in there. Have you tried to read it, is there support? If not you need to send it to EFILive asap! :)

tune@torquesouth.com

[Sweet35th]

Haven't read it yet but will soon. I'll send it to you when I do. Could probably use some help on it.

[Boost]

Sounds good, I'll give you whatever info I can once I look at it.

[Sweet35th]

Any idea how much power these motors can handle?

[Boost]

About 375 stock, the turbo runs out of breath before the motor.

[Sweet35th]

Boost,

I tried reading it today with the latest version of V8 and I got an error message. Im going off of memory for the message but I believe it was 003$ or 033$

My first time using V8 so not sure what that means.

[Boost]

Hmm, I'll have to look it up (or perhaps someone can chime in) but some guesses are:
-that particular one is unsupported - very unlikely
-you do not have the latest update - what build #s are you usinh?
-some glitch or fault?

Not sure if it's worth trying a read from V7? Pretty much everything works better in V8, especially the new stuff.

Is everything connected and powered up ok?

[GMPX]

I would update everything to the releases here:
http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?21584-EFILive-Pre-Release-06
Update V8, V7 and the V2 firmware. There is no known problems with the E39 and those releases.

BTW Boost, V7 won't read or flash an E39 (or E78 as well). We stopped adding flash support to V7 for the new generation ECM's.

[Boost]

Cool, yeah V8 is great and I use it for everything. There was one oddball glitch many versions ago where I had to use V7, I think for an LS1 issue.

But a 2011 Regal turbo should definitely work fine so let us know the results after updating.

[Sweet35th]

I would update everything to the releases here:
http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?21584-EFILive-Pre-Release-06
Update V8, V7 and the V2 firmware. There is no known problems with the E39 and those releases.

BTW Boost, V7 won't read or flash an E39 (or E78 as well). We stopped adding flash support to V7 for the new generation ECM's.

I just retried with the new update from the link you supplied. Same result.

Note this is a 2013 Buick Regal GS, not a 2011 turbo

Here is a copy of what was displayed on the V8 dash

"Executing: C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8\Config\E39_R.obj
Virtual Machine Started
Script Loaded
Script Verified
Executing: Boot Loader...
Unlocking: Trying MFG Key...
Please: Wait...
Script exited with code $0331: Request Out of Range ($31).
"

[Sweet35th]

Cool, yeah V8 is great and I use it for everything. There was one oddball glitch many versions ago where I had to use V7, I think for an LS1 issue.

But a 2011 Regal turbo should definitely work fine so let us know the results after updating.

Remember its a 2013 Regal GS, not a 2011 turbo.

Could it be that this is an E39A, and not yet supported?

[Boost]

Hmm, it could be - although I am not sure why they would change it if nothing else changed. The ATS and the Malibu have the new version of the 2.0T hence they probably have the E39A, and the Verano T have the "old" Regal turbo engine and I am not sure which E39. But all the Regals should be ok, unless it's just a new 2013 calibration that's not yet supported?


FYI, anyone who is interested, the E39A ECM read and flash is support in the next release candidate due any day now. This will get you sorted for any 2013+ SIDI application, though 2013 is a transition year, so some 2013 models will still use the older E39 and others the new E39A such as the 2013 XTS, ATS and Malibu. VTuner was brave enough to be the first test mule for the E39A beta update on he's ATS with good results too.
We had to spend a bit of time on this one, we needed to make sure there was no possible way someone could full flash an E39 tune in to an E39A (and vice versa), I found out what happens when you do that (E39 doorstops anyone?). GM do have a new part number for the E39A ECM with a new label too clearly stating 'E39A', plus the scary part, the connector pinouts are different, so don't ever get them mixed up, again, another doorstop results (as Ross notices he's BRAND NEW E39A is drawing 5 Amps, it didn't live more than 10 seconds!) :redface: .
Now all I need is Holden to offer the new 2.0L turbo like the ATS has in 'something' and I'll have my next car on order, unless the GenV hits the streets first.

[GMPX]

Yeah pretty sure even the 2013 Regal is still the 'old' E39.
Sweeth35th, did you update the V2 firmware as well after updating the PC software?

[joecar]

I just retried with the new update from the link you supplied. Same result.

Note this is a 2013 Buick Regal GS, not a 2011 turbo

Here is a copy of what was displayed on the V8 dash

"Executing: C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8\Config\E39_R.obj
Virtual Machine Started
Script Loaded
Script Verified
Executing: Boot Loader...
Unlocking: Trying MFG Key...
Please: Wait...
Script exited with code $0331: Request Out of Range ($31).
"

After you flashed firmware 2.7.35 into your V2, did you goto BBx and do Program All (may need to first format the config filesystem)...?

[Sweet35th]

Yeah pretty sure even the 2013 Regal is still the 'old' E39.
Sweeth35th, did you update the V2 firmware as well after updating the PC software?

Yes, it said my firm ware was up to date

Firmware 2.07.35
bootblock 2.07.04

[Sweet35th]

After you flashed firmware 2.7.35 into your V2, did you goto BBx and do Program All (may need to first format the config filesystem)...?

This EFIlive I have (used to have another set up at another facility) is brand new, and the firmware that it came with was already 2.7.35, so it did not even need to update.

I went into BBX and it says 150% space required, and even if I unselect all the controlers I can not get it below 100%

[joecar]

This EFIlive I have (used to have another set up at another facility) is brand new, and the firmware that it came with was already 2.7.35, so it did not even need to update.

I went into BBX and it says 150% space required, and even if I unselect all the controlers I can not get it below 100%In BBx, on the Scan and Tune tabs, delete any items that are for ECM's other than yours.

[Sweet35th]

Joecar, tried that. Still get same error

[GMPX]

Can you please PM me the VIN of the car, I'll check what E39 version it is, it might be a new E39A.

[GMPX]

Ok, we checked the VIN you PM'd me and it looks like it is still using the original E39 ECM (not the E39A), so there shouldn't be any reason why it's not working for you.
I am suspicious of the firmware version still. What might be confusing is the firmware versions are kept the same when we do pre-releases, can you please do a quick check of the firmware date?
Just plug the V2 in, start up V8 Scan and Tune, then click on the 'Check Firmware' button, then look at what the date of the firmware is.

14653

[Sweet35th]

GMPX,

Thank your for the picture. I missed the date before when looking at the firmware. It is now up to date, and I will let you guys know if that took care of the problem later today.
Thanks again.

[GMPX]

No problem, hope it fixes it for you, the date thing is normally not an issue, but like I mentioned we keep the version number the same on beta versions so people can go back if they need to.

[Sweet35th]

Still did not work. Here is a copy of the display

Executing: C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8\Config\E39_R.obj
Virtual Machine Started
Script Loaded
Script Verified
Executing: Boot Loader...
Please: Wait...
Script exited with code $0311: Mode Not Supported ($11).


I should note that I have no problem connecting to the ECM to scan/data log

[GMPX]

Ok, sorry, but I didn't get it right the first time, your ECM is one of the new E39A's, this is why it's not working.
The next update we post (might even be today) will allow you to read it out, I promise. Unfortunately your OS won't be mapped out though so you'll need to Email your file in once it's read.

Cheers,
Ross

[Sweet35th]

Ok, that is cool. This is for my own personal car, so I am not in a time crunch......I just hate leaving anything stock, and would like to help some others who want to see the file from this car.

Any help in getting it mapped out and getting pointed in the right dirrection in changes will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for the great support you have already given me.

Well in the mean time back to the Ford front. Have a gorgeous fox body (which trust me is a stretch for me to say about a fox) with a 5.0 Coyote in it that needs some dyno time.


Ok, sorry, but I didn't get it right the first time, your ECM is one of the new E39A's, this is why it's not working.
The next update we post (might even be today) will allow you to read it out, I promise. Unfortunately your OS won't be mapped out though so you'll need to Email your file in once it's read.

Cheers,
Ross

[Sweet35th]

Any word on that update?

[joecar]

RC1 has just been posted in the Software Updates section... give this a try.

[Sweet35th]

Here it is, 2013 Buick Regal GS 6spd manual read

Edit by GMPX: I removed your tune, are you sure you want to Post it up given the car is brand new?

[ScarabEpic22]

Id post the file up again, but sanitize the VIN (0 out the last 6 digits). :D

Thanks for posting it though!

[GMPX]

He can post it up again as is, but rather than have it sit there for 12hrs I thought I'd remove it, people are generally a bit funny about having the VIN out in public.

[Sweet35th]

GMPX, i emailed the file to support too.

[Sweet35th]

I dont care about my vin number out there. Its easily finable if someone just wanted to do the research......

That aside. I can not open up the tune file at all. Said I had to email it it support. (Like GMPX said I would) so that is what I did. I couldn't upload it again with the vin cut out even if I wanted to.

[Sweet35th]

Any news on the file I sent in? I am not in a rush, just looking for info so I can outline a scehdual on this.

[GMPX]

Yeah, just finishing up and checking over all the new E39A OS's, I'm hoping to get them in to the system for the next release this week.

[Sweet35th]

Awesome GMPX. THanks so much for the help.

[Meister]

Anyone want to send me the tune to take a peak at?

[Sweet35th]

GMPX, does the RC2 update support this file?

[GMPX]

Should be in RC3, the files were set for inclusion.
http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?22425-EFILive-RC-3-%28April-08-2013%29

[Sweet35th]

Still coming up as unrecognized pcm

[joecar]

Did you try with RC4...?

[Sweet35th]

Yes,

[kangsta]

can you post your file?

[Sweet35th]

kangsta PM me.