0411/E38 Conversion ?

[3fingas]

Tried searching for any info on converting over to E38 from a 0411. Besides 58x and 4x sensor swap, Im having a hard time finding info on what to or not to expect for this swap.

This will be a SD tune, no 02s and running a th400 and 98 camaro cluster.

Any help or direction to any thread would be awesome help. Thanks in advance.

[Taz]

Not sure why you are interested in changing to an E38 controller - most want to do the reverse. The usual reason to update to an E38 is to use an A6 (6L80/90) transmission - but are using a non-computer controlled transmission - essentially a manual tune.

I don't have schematics for a 1998 Camaro - rarely work with an LS1-A PCM. Looking at 2002 Camaro IPC schematics - things like the fuel gauge, tach, and many warning lights / message centre - are controlled via Serial Data communication with the PCM. The E38 won't support these functions - it is GMLAN (canbus) only.

To make everything work, you would end up requiring a PCM (LS1-A or LS1-B) to operate the 1998 Camaro IPC (gauge cluster) and an ECM (E38) to operate the engine.

You would need a your existing harness and PCM, plus a stand alone harness and ECM, plus the 58x CKP, 4x CMP, compatible APP (gas pedal) and TB - as E38 is DBW only.

A pile of work (and money) just to run the engine - which you are already running.


Regards,
Taz

[ScarabEpic22]

Going off of Taz, what car is this actually for? If its a 98 Camaro, you're much better off buying an 0411 LS1B PCM and swapping that. It will be much quicker and easier, plus you wont have to run 2 PCM/ECMs to keep all of your stock functionality.

[3fingas]

Thanks for replying. The car was already on the o411. Did the swap a few years back. The car sees more track then street and figured Id see a better window tuning SD. Im waiting for an DFI to work out some bugs w/ COP so I had the 58x pressed on. Really need to control timing per hole. I guess the only gauge id like to keep is fuel. ECT, GEN, OP are all up regardless and a drak should work VSS. I already have the E38 figured Id re pin and change CK CM sensors while rebuilding the motor.

Appreciate the info.