Tables Question

[1stGlance]

I am total newbie - am now able to "look at" my tune - there are two tables for VE
Boost VE table A0009 that kicks in once the maximum value in B0101 Main VE table is reached.
Is this the normal / customary way to handle boost ?

I was reading a thread that said to check table B1650 for a value - regarding changed TB to 102mm - but I do not have this table?

How does one add tables ?

[Taz]

Sounds like you are mixing Gen III and Gen IV tuning techniques together - controllers are different - therefore tables are different.

Post your tune ...


Regards,
Taz

[joecar]

Not necessarily "customary", but it is the easiest way to handle boost (COS has boost VE and spark tables).

[joecar]

One does not "add" tables unless one knows this about the table: location, length, data width, data interpretation, data units, axis units, axis steps, etc...

[1stGlance]

Sounds like you are mixing Gen III and Gen IV tuning techniques together - controllers are different - therefore tables are different.

Post your tune ...


Regards,
Taz


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[Taz]

That's a Gen III controller (LS1-B) - therefore no B1650 parameter (used with E38 / E67).


Regards,
Taz

[slows10]

That's a Gen III controller (LS1-B) - therefore no B1650 parameter (used with E38 / E67).


Regards,
Taz So what should he do, regarding his 2nd question in post number one? What table should he edit and by what amount?

[Taz]

... So what should he do ...

The same thing I encourage everyone to do - self educate. Read any and all material you can find or purchase, make notes, and organize this information into a binder or an electronic file for future reference and revision.



... regarding his 2nd question ... What table should he edit and by what amount? ...

Back to reading - read the EFILive COS Tutorial (would have been downloaded with the software). It outlines how to bridge the VE tables at 105 kPa
, what to enter in the highest column of A0009, and how to fill the remaining columns.

I would recommend reading this Tutorial numerous times, and then making notes after the third or fourth time through it. Beginning your tuning career with a Forced Induction tune is akin to jumping into the deep end of the pool - when you don't know how to swim.


Regards,
Taz

[slows10]

Taz mine was not a difficult question to understand. I did not ask you two questions,why qoute me twice? I asked you what he should do regarding his throttle body size? He is at a 102 mm currently. He does not have table B1650 in his ecm. So what table should he edit then? I think he is referring to B4403, but I am thinking going with a smaller number in B4349(for etc cars) will help as more air is being passed because of the larger bore area. And 4350 for cable driven cars. But am not sure.

[Taz]

... Taz mine was not a difficult question to understand ...

That is one of the limitations of text as a communication medium - accurately conveying your intent. For whatever reason you felt the need to redirect the posters questions to me directly. I took the appropriate answer as being in 2 parts - hence the double quotes you referred to.

The original post contained references to B0101 and A0009 - which I have answered.

If for whatever reason this thread has become personal for you - then as a senior Forum member - roll up your sleeves and help out the poster directly.

You posting to the effect of "Taz what's the answer to this ?" doesn't help the poster. I don't answer questions in as many areas as I once did - as a compromise for those operating commercial businesses (like myself) who would normally sell such information.


Regards,
Taz

[slows10]

Lol. Thank you for your lengthy well thought out response. Just thought maybe you had more to say concerning B1650 not being used in a LS1B ecm and to use what table instead. I posted what I thought should be used but not totally sure of the table descriptions meanings. So if you know what is supposed to be used but dont say for buisness reasons thats fine, just thought your answer was weak thats all.Guess I am kinda baffled that you would answer such a simple question and not elaborate more. Since the op obviously made a mistake by confusing the thread he had read which was for a gen 4 ecm you would have told him to use xy or z table in his own controller. No need to lecture on whether my ? to you helps the poster or not. Your answer certainly did not concerning B1650. Not trying to get into a pissing match with you. So be it.

[Taz]

Didn't realize your initial post was a critique of my response ... anytime you believe a response to a question is "weak" (whether my answer or from anyone else) it is perhaps better to jump into the thread with another answer based on your own experience.

To sit back and criticize others while not contributing yourself adds nothing to the Forum. And I paid you the respect of an explanation for the shift in the amount that I now participate in the Forum.

Some days it seems like I get it from both ends of the membership ...


Regards,
Taz