Setting up a FSV2 from scratch...

[joecar]

Install the latest V7 and V8 (both) software builds from here: Software-Updates-and-Installation-Help (http://forum.efilive.com/forumdisplay.php?71-Software-Updates-and-Installation-Help)

Flash the latest bootblock/firmware into your V2:
- start V8 Scan & Tune (S&T),
- click Check Firmware,
- if the firmware needs updating you will see a button Update Firmware, click it,
- if the V2 BBx configuration needs updating you will see a button to Refresh it, click it (see Note below),
- click Ok to exit the firmware update dialog box.

Note: If you had already configured V2 BBx as shown below, then click the button you see to Refresh the V2 BBx config (see pic below), wait until the refresh is finished, and now you're done.


Note: if you have not yet configured V2 BBx config then continue here:

Insert an SD card into your FSV2 (and leave it in your FSV2 from now on).

Configure BBx for your PCM or ECM/TCM:
- start V8 Scan & Tune (S&T),
- goto F6: Devices,
- set File System to SD Card,
- save to file Settings.dat,
- click Program,
- click Close,
- goto F5: BBX,
- click Format Config File System (accessed via downarrow next to Program button),
- goto Scan page (see Note below),
- in the blue pane delete pidlists for ECM's other than yours,
- in the blue pane you can add new pidlists for your ECM,
- each pidlist in the blue pane can have a number of pids as shown in the green pane (to which you can add pids from the yellow pane),
- at the bottom of the green pane is a bargraph showing pid usage, do not let this turn red (too many pids selected),
- goto Tune page,
- delete any ECM's other than yours,
- if not already present, add entries for your ECM type(s),
- goto DTC page,
- checkmark the DTC descriptions you want to see,
- save to file Options.txt,
- click Program All (accessed via downarrow next to Program button), wait for it to finish,
- click Close,
- goto F8:Tools (if you have any .tun files to conver to .ctz),
- in the upper box, browse to your .tun files, and click Convert Now,
- click Close,
- exit V8 S&T.

More Info: kb_article.php?ref=6659-YAHB-3781 (https://support.efilive.com/kb_article.php?ref=6659-YAHB-3781)


Note: on the Scan page, the right-hand pane is yellow, the upper-left pane is blue, and the lower-left pane is green.


This pic shows the Update Firmware window with the BBX Configuration Refresh button:

[joecar]

First, from the V7 tunetool, save your .tun files as .ctz (this is now the tune file extension type).

Then copy those .ctz files to your V2:
- start V8 EFILive Explorer (EE),
- goto Data Files tab,
- click Home,
- upper pane (PC): locate the .ctz files,
- lower pane (V2): go into the Tune folder,
- copy/paste/drag the .ctz files from the upper pane (PC) to the lower pane (V2),
- exit EE.

[joecar]

- start V8 Scan & Tune (S&T),
- goto F6: Devices,
- goto Logging page,
- checkmark Automatically select ALL digital (serial) PIDs <-- do this for serial wideband
- checkmark Automatically select ALL analog PIDs <-- do this for analog wideband
- set Logging Speed to Fast (10-40 frames/second),
- goto Serial I/O,
- set Com Port to Wideband,
- set Wideband Type to your wideband,
- save to file Settings.dat,
- click Program,
- click Close,
- exit V8 S&T.

More Info: kb_article.php?ref=8371-TIPK-2770 (https://support.efilive.com/kb_article.php?ref=8371-TIPK-2770)


When you BBL log, these serial wideband pids will be included (they occupy zero pid channels):
- EXT.WO2AFR1 and 2,
- EXT.WO2LAM1 and 2,
- EXT.WO2EQR1 and 2,
- EXT.WO2ST1 and 2.
( these are the wideband pids, so do not log the analog wideband AFR/BEN pids )

[joecar]

After you have setup your V2 as shown in post #1 above, you are now ready to do BBL logging...

1. Using FlashScan's keypad do F1 Select PIDs, then select the pidlist you want to log, and press Ok.
2. Press 0/Power to start logging.
3. Press Ok to toggle pause on/off.
4. Use up/down arrow key s to scroll; use left/right arrow keys to page.
5. Press F1..F4 or Ctrl-F1..Ctrl-F4 to insert notes 1 thru 8 (respectively) on the fly into log.
6. Press Enter to toggle units Metric/Custom.
7. Press Ctrl-Enter to toggle font small/large.
8. Press Ctrl-DownArrow to toggle LCD background/foreground (may help visibility in direct sunlight).
9. Press Cancel terminate and save it as a file.

Notes:
i. the blue LED illuminates whenever FlashScan writes data (to internal memory or to SD card);
ii. the LED Mode must be set to “S” (Status) to allow the blue LED to illuminate (as in Note i above).

[jeff keyuk]

Keep up the good work Joe!

[crazycumminz]

Thanks so much, I'll try it when I get off work.

[crazycumminz]

One question? When you say flash that bootlock and firmware, reflash my stock tune with correct vin# to the truck with that bootlock and firmware? The rest of your post I understand.

[joecar]

One question? When you say flash that bootlock and firmware, reflash my stock tune with correct vin# to the truck with that bootlock and firmware? The rest of your post I understand.No... flash the bootblock/firmware into your V2.

( I edited post #1 to clarify )

[crazycumminz]

You guy's are great! Tx I'm at my second job now, so when I get home at 2pm I'll do that. Thanks again

[rumblebox]

Finally a tutorial in english. You are a life saver.

[rumblebox]

After my update, all my PID's are "invalid". Also I'm not getting any readings from the WB

[jeff keyuk]

You can say that again ! My road to tuning has been a up and down road ! Good Luck.

[joecar]

After my update, all my PID's are "invalid". Also I'm not getting any readings from the WBThey are invalid on which: V2 LCD or V7 scantool...?

[rumblebox]

Scan tool

[joecar]

Can you post the log file that is causing that

( you may also have to connect the V7 scantool to the PCM one time and do Info->Validate Pids ).

[Rich Z]

I'm probably jumping the gun a bit in my learning curve, but the question is in my mind now, so.....

I have a couple of SanDisk Ultra SD HC 4Gb cards sitting right here on my desk. Are they compatible with the FlashScan V2?

If not, which brands/sizes are compatible?

[Blacky]

I'm probably jumping the gun a bit in my learning curve, but the question is in my mind now, so.....

I have a couple of SanDisk Ultra SD HC 4Gb cards sitting right here on my desk. Are they compatible with the FlashScan V2?

If not, which brands/sizes are compatible?

HC cards are compatible with FlashScan.

Regards
Paul

[Rich Z]

HC cards are compatible with FlashScan.

Regards
Paul

Thank you.

[67SS509]

Install V7 build 222 and V8 build 215 (comes with bootbock 2.07.04 and firmware 2.07.35).

Flash that bootblock and firmware into your V2.

Insert an SD card.

Configure BBx for your PCM or ECM:
- start V8 Scan & Tune (S&T),
- goto F6: Devices,
- set File System to SD Card,
- save to file Settings.dat,
- click Program,
- click Close,
- goto F5: BBX,
- click Format Config File System (accessed via downarrow next to Program button),
- goto Scan page,
- in the blue section delete pidlists for ECM's other than yours
- in the blue section you can add new pidlists for your ECM,
- each pidlist in the blue section can have a number of pids in the green section (to which you can add pids from the yellow section),
- goto Tune page,
- delete any ECM's other than yours,
- goto DTC page,
- checkmark the DTC descriptions you want to see,
- save to file Options.txt,
- click Program All (accessed via downarrow next to Program button), wait for it to finish,
- click Close,
- goto F8:Tools,
- in the upper box browse to your .tun files, and click Convert Now,
- click Close,
- exit V8 S&T.

Does the SD card have to stay inserted now for regular usage of the V2 or just while doing the upgrade?

[joecar]

Does the SD card have to stay inserted now for regular usage of the V2 or just while doing the upgrade?


SD card should stay in always (it has way more space for logs/tunes than internal memory).

[jeff keyuk]

Hey Joe! keep up the good work! spring is around the corner,Looking forward to get back working on the car.

[swingtan]

A quick tip on internal memory vs the SD card.

Internal memory is about 2MB, which will give around 30 min worth of logging on an E38, less if logging a TCM as well.

Approximate tune file sizes (ctz) are as follows...


LS1B - 0.44 MB
E40 - 0.91 MB
E38 - 1.7 MB
E39 - 2.7 MB

T42 - 0.44 MB
T43 - 1.56 MB




Simon.

[nicen_tech]

I have been trying to get my v2 back up to date and I have downloaded the latest software and am trying to get the v.8 software up and running. After programing the pids in v.8 and saving I switched over to the tools section and selected the convesion as directed. What is this doing? It states no .ctd files were found and no files were converted. verifying .ctz files, no files were verified. What am I doing wrong?

[joecar]

I have been trying to get my v2 back up to date and I have downloaded the latest software and am trying to get the v.8 software up and running. After programing the pids in v.8 and saving I switched over to the tools section and selected the convesion as directed. What is this doing? It states no .ctd files were found and no files were converted. verifying .ctz files, no files were verified. What am I doing wrong?First do this: click on the "..." button and browse to the folder where your .tun files are located.

[nicen_tech]

Thanks for the reply, thats what I am doing. I dont have the files saved in the V7.5 or V8 folders because when I go to save them they dont display available in the save as folder, I have them saved to a desktop folder. Could this be my problem? The files are saving as a .tun file and not a .ctd file. What is the difference between the .ctd, .ctz, and the .tun files?

[joecar]

.tun = V7 tunetool old format
.ctd = V8/V2 format, not used any more
.ctz = V8/V2 format

Move your .tun files from the desktop to My Documents\EFILive\V7.5\Bins (or similar for Win 7/8); note that this path is settable in scantool, goto Edit->Properties->Folders).

From the V7 tunetool you can save a tune file as .ctz, go File->Save Tuning File As, and select .ctz as the type.

[joecar]

These links may provide more info:


showthread.php?14351-BBL-PIDs-V2 (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?14351-BBL-PIDs-V2&p=128782&viewfull=1#post128782)
showthread.php?13841-What-is-BBL (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?13841-What-is-BBL)
showthread.php?13836-New-V2-help-find-exlporer (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?13836-New-V2-help-find-exlporer&p=123595&viewfull=1#post123595)
showthread.php?15492-V2-BBL-saving-log-data (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?15492-V2-BBL-saving-log-data&p=136965#post136965)

[67SS509]

Where can I find V7 Build 222 and V8 Build 215?

[ScarabEpic22]

Where can I find V7 Build 222 and V8 Build 215?

In the RC1 thread?

[joecar]

Where can I find V7 Build 222 and V8 Build 215?RC2 replaces those with 225 and 219 respectively.

[FirstGenThree]

Starting from scratch as my laptop is down again, just going to use BBX and my desktop now hopefully. I previously had no efianything on my desktop so I downloaded everything last night, then setup my v2 per this thread, updated bootblock and firmware etc. Went out this morning and read my current tune, it said it saved and I have view the file name on my v2 still but I can't open or transfer it to my desktop in any way. I took the SD card out and my pc doesn't even recognize that there is a card in the slot. Its worth noting that the V2 wouldn't read my tune until I went to Options> Filesystem> Format filesystem. Then it read it and said saved and listed the filename. I thought everything at the beginning of this thread would have that covered..? Where might I have gone wrong and/or which efi program is supposed to read files from the v2?

[Blacky]

Use Start->All Programs->EFILive->V8->EFILive Explorer to transfer files to/from FlashScan.

Regards
Paul

[joecar]

Copying files to/from V2:


First, from the V7 tunetool, save your .tun files as .ctz

Then copy those .ctz files to your V2:
- start V8 EFILive Explorer (EE),
- goto Data Files tab,
- click Home,
- upper pane (PC): locate the .ctz files,
- lower pane (V2): go into the Tune folder,
- copy/paste/drag the .ctz files from the upper pane (PC) to the lower pane (V2),
- exit EE.

to copy logs from V2 to PC is the copy/paste from lower pane (V2) to upper pane (PC).

[lmn8636]

Install the latest V7/V8 software builds, check here for the latest: Software-Updates-and-Installation-Help (http://forum.efilive.com/forumdisplay.php?71-Software-Updates-and-Installation-Help)

- goto F8:Tools,
- in the upper box browse to your .tun files, and click Convert Now,


By this, what files do you mean? All of the above files that you just saved? (Settings.dat, Options.txt)

[joecar]

Install the latest V7/V8 software builds, check here for the latest: Software-Updates-and-Installation-Help (http://forum.efilive.com/forumdisplay.php?71-Software-Updates-and-Installation-Help)

- goto F8:Tools,
- in the upper box browse to your .tun files, and click Convert Now,

By this, what files do you mean? All of the above files that you just saved? (Settings.dat, Options.txt)No... this is to convert your .tun files to .ctz files

( the BBF feature requires filenames to end in .ctz and to be no more than 16 characters in length )

[joecar]

Posts #1-4 above have been updated.

[joecar]

After you've done post #1 above least once, the newer V8 interface will show you what requires updating regarding BBX, you just tell it to proceed.

[irwinr]

I was directed here from this thread:

https://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?23326-The-Flashscan-Autocal-interface-is-not-compatible-with-this-version-of-EFiLive-softwa&highlight=The+FlashScan++interface+is+not+compatib le

Which is asking about the error message that says: "The FlashScan/AutoCal interface is not compatible with this version of EFILive software" joecar responded to that thread and said that question was addressed in this thread, but reading through this thread I don't see this error message mentioned anywhere.

I'm using the same FlashScan V2 and the same software I've been using. Why did it suddenly stop working?

the version I'm using is V7.5.7 (Build 180)

-Jeremy

[Blacky]

I was directed here from this thread:

https://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?23326-The-Flashscan-Autocal-interface-is-not-compatible-with-this-version-of-EFiLive-softwa&highlight=The+FlashScan++interface+is+not+compatib le

Which is asking about the error message that says: "The FlashScan/AutoCal interface is not compatible with this version of EFILive software" joecar responded to that thread and said that question was addressed in this thread, but reading through this thread I don't see this error message mentioned anywhere.

I'm using the same FlashScan V2 and the same software I've been using. Why did it suddenly stop working?

the version I'm using is V7.5.7 (Build 180)

-Jeremy

That message will be displayed when the firmware version in the FlashScan device is not compatible with the V7.5 software that is installed on your PC. Either youupdated the firmware, or updated the software but not both. To get everything operational, you need to download and install the latest V7.5 and V8 software from here: http://www.efilive.com/latest/cat/download-efilive

After installing you should run the options:
Start->All Programs->EFILive->V8->Check for Updates
and
Start->All Programs->EFILive->V7.5->Check for Updates
to ensure you get the latest updates.

Then once, the V8 software is installed (and fully updated), run the V8 EFILive_ScanAndTune software and click on the [Check Firmware] button on the main screen. That will update your V2 firmware so that it is compatible with the latest V7.5 software (that you shoudl have also installed and updated).

Regards
Paul

[Hooter]

Is this old thread that Joecar wrote still compatable with latest updates that have .ctz files as normal.
I tried to set this up, and noticed quite a few differences.
i want to log some of the e38 t43 pids that arent in V7.5 such as TUTD
I did get a warning once about large SD cards can be a problem, and i am using the smallest one I could find these days which is 8gb....
Is this a problem???
When I tried to log with BBL I got a checksum error
I dont get/understand a few things with the BBL..... is there a tutorial that explains what can be done with the V2, and why you would use it and benefits to log with it rather than scan tool???
I must admit, I get a little nervous when making changes to my system, as the last thing you want is a disaster, especially when you have tunes to do the next day, and so I get a little reluctant to fix things that aint broke, even when it comes to updates..... am I alone in this field???
I really appreciate the work and time, that goes into threads like this one from Joecar, and others that make up this great forum, which I have learnt so much from.

[joecar]

Yes, compatible with .ctz, see posts #1 and #2.


As indicated in post #1, goto F5: BBX, and create one or more pidlists for your ECM/TCM.

What is your V8 software build version...?
What is your V2 firmware version...?

You can log with V2 only (Black Box Logging, BBL) so you don't have to bring your laptop with you in your vehicle.
With V2 you can also read from PCM and write to PCM without needing a laptop (you do a laptop to edit a tune).

[joecar]

...

I must admit, I get a little nervous when making changes to my system, as the last thing you want is a disaster, especially when you have tunes to do the next day, and so I get a little reluctant to fix things that aint broke, even when it comes to updates..... am I alone in this field???
...You're not alone...

The idea is to schedule updates to V7/V8 software and V2 firmware so that you can have a few days leeway in case something goes wrong... generally when something goes wrong it gets sorted out fairly quickly.

[joecar]

...

i want to log some of the e38 t43 pids that arent in V7.5 such as TUTD
I did get a warning once about large SD cards can be a problem, and i am using the smallest one I could find these days which is 8gb....
Is this a problem???
When I tried to log with BBL I got a checksum error
...Do you see the checksum error when logging from E38 or T43...?


What firmware version is your V2 at...?

[Hooter]

Hey Joe, My V8 is V8.2.2.262
and V2 is 2.07.07
I did make a PID list, but I may have done that wrong, as I called it T43play and then selected both the e38 and t43 controllers????
Anyway everything else seemed ok, but couldnt find a couple of PIDs that I usually use in V7,5 Dynamic cyl air for one....

The error code when I hook up V2 alone once I have selected evrything like you say and then start id $0185
Cheers

[Blacky]

You can look up error code here: Start->All Programs->EFILive-V8->Documents->EFILive Error Codes

$0185 F_ERR_NOTFOUND A file or folder was not found.
You may need to copy a required file to FlashScan or AutoCal using EFILive_Explorer.
Or you may need to format the target file system, see description for error $0182 above.

If you're getting checksum errors when data logging, it may be that the SD Card is failing or FlashScan is having trouble communicating with it correctly. Which could also explain the $0185 errors.
Try using EFILive Explorer to copy 10 ro 20 *.ctz files onto the card. If they all copy onto the card without error then there is likely nothing seriously wrong with the card or with FlashScan's ability to communicate with it.

The purpose of BBL (Black Box Logging) is to allow you to collect data logs without having to drag your laptop out to the vehicle.

Some PIDs were renamed when moving from V7.5 to V8. A list of renamed PIDs can be found in the file \Program Files (x86)\EFILive\V7.5\Configuration\sae_generic.txt
Open that file with Notepad and search for the section *BBLV7 it lists the renamed PIDs in that section.
Plus all _DMA PIDs have been renamed to just _M in V8, so E38.APCYL_DMA becomes just APCYL_M.

Regards
Paul

[joecar]

Connect V2 to vehicle OBD-II port (V2 should power on).

Connect V2 to wideband serial port (using null modem cable/adapter).

From V2 LCD/keypad do: F1 Scan Tool -> F2 Data Logging -> F3 Display WO2



You will have to first configure your V2 to read the serial comms from your wideband, do this:
1. F4 Options
2. F1 Setup
3. F1 Edit Settings
4. set Ser Pids to Yes.
5. set COM port to Wide-O2
6. set WO2 Type to <choose your wideband>.
7. for the ECM (e.g. AFR1500) wideband, also set the Id # for each bank.
8. press the Cancel button multiple times to back out of the menu tree.

[dgp]

Hi I'm new here, just doing a lot of reading before I buy the required equipment (still trying to work out what I need), to learn to tune my LS3 Redline.
Joe, when you say "connect V2 to wideband serial port" are you referring to connecting to an LM2 with a null modem adaptor?

I am trying to figure out what I need to buy; V2 with GM licence and LM2 dual kit from innovate. Any help appreciated and sorry to hijack.

[joecar]

Hi I'm new here, just doing a lot of reading before I buy the required equipment (still trying to work out what I need), to learn to tune my LS3 Redline.
Joe, when you say "connect V2 to wideband serial port" are you referring to connecting to an LM2 with a null modem adaptor?

I am trying to figure out what I need to buy; V2 with GM licence and LM2 dual kit from innovate. Any help appreciated and sorry to hijack.Yes, correct, using a null modem adapter or a serial cable configured to do the null modem function (i.e. Tx and Rx signals crossed/swapped).

[dgp]

Ok thanks

[BADCADDY]

I have configured for BB saved pid list, saved tune, updated everything, refreshed, and manually moved options.txt just in case, also programmed all. I'm still receiving no folder error, I can tune, and display PIDs but can't not log. Any idea why I still receive 0185 error code?

[joecar]

I have configured for BB saved pid list, saved tune, updated everything, refreshed, and manually moved options.txt just in case, also programmed all. I'm still receiving no folder error, I can tune, and display PIDs but can't not log. Any idea why I still receive 0185 error code?Post some screenshots...

which folder did you put the tune file on your FSV2's SD-card...?

is the tune file in .ctz format...?

[BADCADDY]

My tunes work fine, its data logging I'm having trouble with. When I select pid list and press 0/power I get the error message. After adding my controller I made my pid list, validated it and saved in in the predetermined destination as 2009CTSV.txt. Weird it will let me do live display of my pid list but not log it.

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[joecar]

Using EFILive Explorer, show the F3 Data Files tab, and post a screenshot of that...

I think there might be a folder missing.

[BADCADDY]

You were right I didn't even notice, the Scan folder was missing. No clue how that happened, thank you. This is why you're awesome.