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JST
November 13th, 2012, 07:22 AM
Working on a 2011 GMC 6.0 gas,I think it has a E 67 ECU,I keep getting rejected,I did try the try alt keys no help but I got this (engine speed is not at 0,speed not at 0 or a flash memory fault) The newer truck are a pain in the a// Any help ???

JST
November 13th, 2012, 07:53 AM
Pulled the ecu out and it is a E 78,Not good EFI dose not support E 78,they have 11 truck for tuning and all are the same 2011 GMC with the 6.0,can HP Tuners tune E 78 ? Tuned 2 older trucks they have and got 2/3 mpg

Rhino79
November 13th, 2012, 08:15 AM
I have tuned on e78's with efilive.......

http://www.efilive.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=147&Itemid=146

tokymon
November 13th, 2012, 08:39 AM
do you have the latest software?
i think its newer addition

JST
November 13th, 2012, 09:08 AM
Yes I just checked

GMPX
November 13th, 2012, 09:08 AM
Pulled the ecu out and it is a E 78,Not good EFI dose not support E 78,they have 11 truck for tuning and all are the same 2011 GMC with the 6.0,can HP Tuners tune E 78 ? Tuned 2 older trucks they have and got 2/3 mpg
Oh dear, what can I say, time to update your software. EFILive has has E78 support since late 2010!
Maybe you are only installing v7.5 updates, in which case you won't see the E78. The E78 needs to be done via the V8 software. On the download page on the website you will find links for both.

JST
November 13th, 2012, 09:11 AM
Just checked again,up to date

tokymon
November 13th, 2012, 09:12 AM
try doing it with efi live v8 to read and wright and v7 to adjust tune

GMPX
November 13th, 2012, 09:43 AM
The E78 needs to be done via the V8 software.


Just checked again,up to date
Did you install the V8 software?
Here's what you should do. Download both v7.5 and V8 from HERE (http://www.efilive.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=133). Manually uninstall your current v7.5 software because I would suspect it's an earlier version that what the installer used in the link is. Once you've uninstalled your older version of v7.5, install both v7.5 and v8 from those downloads.
Some of the new ECM's are only supported for reading and flashing via the V8 software, E78 being one of them. You read the ECM with V8, still edit and scan via V7.5, but then also reflash the controller via V8.

JST
November 13th, 2012, 09:45 AM
Can you run 7.5 and 8 on the same computer ?

JST
November 13th, 2012, 09:47 AM
Can not get it to read the usb with the 8

GMPX
November 13th, 2012, 09:47 AM
Yes no problem doing that. V8 is not a full replacement for v7.5 yet, it's transitioning to that though.
Also have a quick read through this thread (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?20982-have-not-updated-my-controller-in-a-long-time-whats-needed).

JST
November 13th, 2012, 12:20 PM
Did all that but can not get v8 usb to hook up with v2 ? xp or with laptop with 7

joecar
November 13th, 2012, 01:22 PM
Did you uninstall the newer USB driver and install the older one...?

JST
November 13th, 2012, 03:45 PM
Yes old and new,new and old,on and on all works with 7.5 new and old but with 8 not responding no device connected

JST
November 13th, 2012, 04:22 PM
Do I need to install 2.04 and 2.08 or just 1 of the 2,uninstalled and installed old,did not work,uninstalled installed new did not work on v8,the 2 both worked with the 7.5

JST
November 13th, 2012, 04:23 PM
Did you uninstall the newer USB driver and install the older one...?

yes

joecar
November 13th, 2012, 04:30 PM
Can you post a screenshot of V8 S&T, I want to see what it says...

JST
November 13th, 2012, 06:11 PM
Yes in the AM,been playing with this for 8 HR,I have tuned over a 100 truck with EFI all over the US but it seems that the new truck are a pain,had a 2010 gmc that I had to have the speed o set by a hp after help from 4 tuners with efi and it was still 4 MPH off,hp got it the first time ? I did pay for it to keep him happy

JST
November 14th, 2012, 06:38 AM
1417314175 I hope this works

JST
November 14th, 2012, 06:40 AM
Works good with 7.5 ?

Blacky
November 14th, 2012, 08:30 AM
The V7 and V8 software cannot share a connection to the FlashScan device. If the V7 Scan or V7 Tune software is connected to the FlashScan device then V8 will not be able to connect to the FlashScan device.
Make sure V7 is not running* when you try and connect using the V8 software.

* Or at least that the V7 Scan Tool is disconnected and the V7 Tune Tool is not displaying any Read/Flash/Lock/PCM Info window.

Regards
Paul

JST
November 14th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Still not working,wow 2 day to try to get it going,do I need to uninstall 7,what the hell

joecar
November 14th, 2012, 09:11 AM
Ok, let's go step-by-step...

what firmware version is in your V2...?

JST
November 14th, 2012, 09:17 AM
How do I find it ?

JST
November 14th, 2012, 09:20 AM
2.4.70

Blacky
November 14th, 2012, 09:51 AM
How do I find it ?

Connect up to the V7 software and select Help->FlashScan V2 / AutoCal V2 Licensing.
Read the version number as circled in the image below.
14176

Regards
Paul

Blacky
November 14th, 2012, 09:55 AM
2.4.70

Sorry, I didn't see that reply. EFILive V8 will not work with a device with firmware that old.

You'll need to upgrade your firmware to V2.07.35. To do that, please read the document that can be found at:
Start->All Programs EFILive->V8->Documents->Upgrading FlashScan.

The most important thing to get right during the upgrade process is to make sure you get the firmware to exactly V2.04.72 before attempting to upgrade the boot block.
If you attempt a boot block upgrade when the firmware is V2.04.70 (like yours is now) or V2.04.71 then chances are the V2 will become unresponsive and you'll need to return it to EFILive to be reset.

The document explains the steps you need to take in more detail, please follow it carefully.

Regards
Paul

JST
November 14th, 2012, 10:32 AM
OK but this is killing me,I have so much in my V2 that I do not want to try this,in this area I have had to set up at lest 10 computers with EFI,it is at time so hard to work with EFI for others and now me ? ,I like EFI a lot WOW

Blacky
November 14th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Unless you upgrade your FlashScan firmware you will not be able to use EFILive V8. Its not a difficult process to upgrade. But there are a couple of traps that can cause a problem.
If you don't follow the instructions exactly, the worst case scenario means sending your device back to EFILive. You won't lose anything from your V2, we just have to reset the firmware here.

Regards
Paul

joecar
November 14th, 2012, 11:05 AM
Just checked again,up to date


Pulled the ecu out and it is a E 78,Not good EFI dose not support E 78,they have 11 truck for tuning and all are the same 2011 GMC with the 6.0,can HP Tuners tune E 78 ? Tuned 2 older trucks they have and got 2/3 mpg



Here's the document Paul mentioned, read it carefully before proceeding: Upgrading FlashScan.pdf (http://forum.efilive.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13883&d=1347307826)


You only have to upgrade your V2 firmware from one PC only (not 10).


Read the document and do exactly what Paul said:

...

The most important thing to get right during the upgrade process is to make sure you get the firmware to exactly V2.04.72 before attempting to upgrade the boot block.
If you attempt a boot block upgrade when the firmware is V2.04.70 (like yours is now) or V2.04.71 then chances are the V2 will become unresponsive and you'll need to return it to EFILive to be reset.

The document explains the steps you need to take in more detail, please follow it carefully.
...



This will give you E78 ability.

JST
November 14th, 2012, 11:16 AM
But I mod tunes all over the us and it will not let me if I goof up,I have 2 truck from NY City next week.This is what I mean when say (It is getting hard) I update a lot of things over a year and none of updates are do or die,I just don't want to be without it for ? 2 weeks

Rhino79
November 14th, 2012, 11:26 AM
The firmware update is a matter of minutes. They (EFILIVE) have even put in features in the help tab on v7 and v8 to check for updates. If you aren't running updates, you will not have the cal files for late model products.

This is not in any shape or form a fault of efilive, they are expanding support and making our end product better. To accomplish this, they must implement updates to allow us to move forward.

Follow the update instructions and you'll be just fine.

I also tune stuff from all over the nation and I couldn't do it without these important updates.

joecar
November 14th, 2012, 11:30 AM
Once you install V7 build 211 and V8 build 203, the Check Updates feature works...

and once you get your firmware and bootblock current (carefully read the document, takes less than 5-10 minutes to perform), V8 will also update those in the future.

joecar
November 14th, 2012, 11:31 AM
To use EFILive on any PC, just install V7 b211 and V8 b203 and you're ready to go (once V2 firmware was updated and BBx configured).

joecar
November 14th, 2012, 11:32 AM
+1 see what Rhino says:
The firmware update is a matter of minutes. They (EFILIVE) have even put in features in the help tab on v7 and v8 to check for updates. If you aren't running updates, you will not have the cal files for late model products.

This is not in any shape or form a fault of efilive, they are expanding support and making our end product better. To accomplish this, they must implement updates to allow us to move forward.

Follow the update instructions and you'll be just fine.

I also tune stuff from all over the nation and I couldn't do it without these important updates.

JST
November 14th, 2012, 01:05 PM
I update once a week my EFI ? Have all the new ecu's cant find the V2.04.72 update,maybe I don't know where to look ?

joecar
November 14th, 2012, 01:31 PM
I update once a week my EFI ?The software may be updating (the update feature was recently enabled)...

but the firmware could not be updated until the bootblock was upgraded (see doc mentioned above).

JST
November 15th, 2012, 09:49 AM
Got it V2.04.72 but the 8 still is not working

JST
November 15th, 2012, 09:58 AM
Just returned a truck with 7.5,this has been a lot of fun,the co. that dose all the computers for the nuclear plant worked on it for 3 HR,they got the V2.04.72 to go in but 8 will not work on my computer or his ?

JST
November 15th, 2012, 11:12 AM
Anything look bad 14183

joecar
November 15th, 2012, 03:04 PM
You are not done yet...

the first step was to get 2.4.72 into your V2...

did you read this document yet: Upgrading Flashscan (http://forum.efilive.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13883&d=1347307826)


V8 will not work until your V2 has 2.7.35... but you must read that document carefully/entirely in order to get there...


[ basically, you want to do Step A and Step D... but reading the whole document explains some things (like dead poll mode, for example) ]

JST
December 3rd, 2012, 01:08 PM
Need to send my v2 in,what is the address and what is the cost and how long,I have 100.00 in to this so far with no help (2 computer repair stores),I have 2 trucks to tune with E 78 ECU'S

Blacky
December 3rd, 2012, 01:34 PM
Need to send my v2 in,what is the address and what is the cost and how long,I have 100.00 in to this so far with no help (2 computer repair stores),I have 2 trucks to tune with E 78 ECU'S
https://www.efilive.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49&Itemid=84

Regards
Paul

GMPX
December 3rd, 2012, 05:40 PM
Need to send my v2 in,what is the address and what is the cost and how long,I have 100.00 in to this so far with no help (2 computer repair stores),I have 2 trucks to tune with E 78 ECU'S
First thing, your posts are not clear and are very hard to read, I can't follow what you are trying to say. "I have 100.00 in to this so far with no help", 100.00 what? dollars, hours?
Next thing, "No help", really?, we are on the 5th page of trying to 'help'.
2 weeks ago Joecar asked you to read the document "Upgrading Flashscan", have you? Why do you want to send the V2 in to EFILive, is it dead?

JST
December 4th, 2012, 02:31 PM
I got it Firmware 2.07.35 bootblock 2.07.04 :cheers: THANK YOU ALL for the help

joecar
December 4th, 2012, 03:55 PM
I got it Firmware 2.07.35 bootblock 2.07.04 :cheers: THANK YOU ALL for the helpOk good :)



but you are still not quite done yet...



see here (from Insert an SD card onward): Setting-up-a-FSV2-from-scratch (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?20699-Setting-up-a-FSV2-from-scratch)

JST
December 4th, 2012, 05:06 PM
I hope it is done,all is working good ?

joecar
December 11th, 2012, 10:29 PM
If you didn't copy the BBx config files, then you're not done yet.

JST
December 12th, 2012, 02:31 AM
I dont know but the truck is tuned and is working good

joecar
December 12th, 2012, 04:41 AM
ok (that still doesn't mean you're done yet). :)

JST
December 12th, 2012, 04:57 AM
How do I know if I did ? 14261 Is this it ?

joecar
December 12th, 2012, 05:18 AM
If you can do BBL and BBF without any problems then you got it

[ the only way to have gotten there was to do the BBx config steps I mentioned in the other thread ]

(also keep in mind that the BBx config files may be updated with each new firmware version )

JST
December 12th, 2012, 06:15 AM
Got it,Thank you