Need heelpp ASAP Truck wont start.

[dieselguy9311]

Ok so i am programing a 04.5 lly and while programing it froze half way through the flash. Now it will get all the way to where it is programing and it stops different places 7k 15k 20k 25k you get the drift. Any way then it says retrying last block. I have tried everything it seems unplug radio fuse info fuse pulled the whole radio out jumper cables on while flashing unpluged batteries for 5 min 15min 30min and 10 hrs no change have tried the alt key low speed high speed together not together no good. have read alot on this and it does not have after market alarm or remote starter. i have tried restarting my computer and flashing that way. not sure what else to do any help would be much appreciated have a guys truck sitting at my place and he needs it asap.
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[THEFERMANATOR]

Is your software up to date? There was an issue with lLY's doing this during a flash that was resolved awhile back.

[dieselguy9311]

Yes thanks for the help all is up to date double checked it last night at like midnight. Hoping that was the problem.

[dieselguy9311]

This is what it is doing.
14:54:02.388: Scanning for EFILive FlashScan V2 HAPI
14:54:02.404: Autodetect interface ...
14:54:02.684: Interface firmware version: 2.7.35
14:54:02.684: Connection to [FSV2] interface is OK
14:54:02.700: CAN-VPW Bridge Activated
14:54:02.762: Current protocol set to: "SAE J1850 VPW"
14:54:02.762: Autodetect PCM...
14:54:02.809: Connection to PCM is OK
14:54:02.825: Current protocol: "SAE J1850 VPW"
14:54:03.043: USB driver version: 2.8.2
14:54:03.043: USB library version: 3.2.0
14:54:03.059: Interface firmware model: FSV2
14:54:03.090: Interface firmware model: FSV2
14:54:03.106: Interface firmware version: 2.7.35
14:54:03.121: Interface firmware date: Jun 22, 2012
14:54:03.152: FlashScan serial number: 00000000000
14:54:03.168: FlashScan license number: 00000000000
14:54:03.464: Getting status...
14:54:04.042: Status: Calibration missing.
14:55:27.736: Disconnecting ...
14:55:28.188: CAN-VPW Bridge Deactivated
14:55:28.188: Disconnected
14:55:28.874: Scanning for EFILive FlashScan V2 HAPI
14:55:28.890: Autodetect interface ...
14:55:29.171: Interface firmware version: 2.7.35
14:55:29.171: Connection to [FSV2] interface is OK
14:55:29.202: Autodetect interface ...
14:55:29.608: Interface firmware version: 2.7.35
14:55:30.637: Interface firmware version: 2.7.35
14:55:30.653: Connection to [FSV2] interface is OK
14:55:30.653: Autodetect PCM...
14:55:30.684: Connection to PCM is OK
14:55:30.902: USB driver version: 2.8.2
14:55:30.918: USB library version: 3.2.0
14:55:30.934: Interface firmware model: FSV2
14:55:30.949: Interface firmware model: FSV2
14:55:30.965: Interface firmware version: 2.7.35
14:55:30.996: Interface firmware date: Jun 22, 2012
14:55:31.012: FlashScan serial number: 00000000000
14:55:31.027: FlashScan license number: 0000000000
14:55:31.058: Disconnecting ...
14:55:31.480: CAN-VPW Bridge Deactivated
14:55:31.480: Disconnected
14:55:32.150: Scanning for EFILive FlashScan V2 HAPI
14:55:32.166: Autodetect interface ...
14:55:32.447: Interface firmware version: 2.7.35
14:55:32.447: Connection to [FSV2] interface is OK
14:55:32.462: CAN-VPW Bridge Activated
14:55:32.540: Current protocol set to: "SAE J1850 VPW"
14:55:32.540: Autodetect PCM...
14:55:32.572: Connection to PCM is OK
14:55:32.587: Current protocol: "SAE J1850 VPW"
14:55:32.806: USB driver version: 2.8.2
14:55:32.806: USB library version: 3.2.0
14:55:32.837: Interface firmware model: FSV2
14:55:32.852: Interface firmware model: FSV2
14:55:32.868: Interface firmware version: 2.7.35
14:55:32.899: Interface firmware date: Jun 22, 2012
14:55:32.915: FlashScan serial number: 00000000000
14:55:32.930: FlashScan license number: 00000000000
14:55:33.242: Getting status...
14:55:33.804: Status: Calibration missing.
14:55:36.362: Bootloader version: DLLY_v1.4F (0810-59D1)
14:55:36.362: Preparing ECM for reflash...
14:55:36.394: ECM reports "Not secured!"
14:55:36.394: Initializing ECM...
14:55:37.205: Initializing ECM, step 1 of 4
14:55:37.205: Initializing ECM, step 2 of 4
14:55:38.016: Initializing ECM, step 3 of 4
14:55:38.016: Initializing ECM, step 4 of 4
14:55:38.468: Initializing bootloader...
14:55:38.796: Initializing bootloader, step 1 of 5
14:55:40.824: Initializing bootloader, step 2 of 5
14:55:41.542: Initializing bootloader, step 3 of 5
14:55:42.244: Initializing bootloader, step 4 of 5
14:55:42.930: Initializing bootloader, step 5 of 5
14:55:43.445: ECM ready for reflashing.
14:55:43.663: Request serial number...
14:55:43.757: Serial number: M0411402LFV1
14:55:45.114: AMD AM29BL802C - 1MB
14:55:45.457: Erasing ECM flash memory... (please wait up to 120 seconds)
14:55:45.473: Waiting 1 of a possible 120...
14:55:46.487: Waiting 2 of a possible 120...
14:55:47.501: Waiting 3 of a possible 120...
14:55:48.515: Waiting 4 of a possible 120...
14:55:49.529: Waiting 5 of a possible 120...
14:55:50.543: Waiting 6 of a possible 120...
14:55:51.557: Waiting 7 of a possible 120...
14:55:52.571: Waiting 8 of a possible 120...
14:55:53.585: Waiting 9 of a possible 120...
14:55:54.599: Waiting 10 of a possible 120...
14:55:55.613: Waiting 11 of a possible 120...
14:55:56.658: Waiting 12 of a possible 120...
14:55:57.688: Waiting 13 of a possible 120...
14:55:58.733: Waiting 14 of a possible 120...
14:55:59.747: Waiting 15 of a possible 120...
14:56:00.761: Waiting 16 of a possible 120...
14:56:01.775: Waiting 17 of a possible 120...
14:56:02.414: ECM flash memory erased OK
14:56:02.680: Reflashing ECM's memory...
14:56:11.369: Retrying previous block...
14:56:19.106: Retrying previous block...
14:56:27.905: Retrying previous block...
14:56:38.170: Retrying previous block...
14:56:47.405: Retrying previous block...
14:56:57.982: Retrying previous block...
14:57:07.435: Retrying previous block...
14:57:09.494: Stopping, please wait...
14:57:17.544: Retrying previous block...
14:57:17.560: Total time: 01:14
14:57:17.560: Data compression achieved: 32.4%
14:57:17.591: ECM is in an unknown state.
14:57:19.728: Clear emisison related DTCs...
14:57:20.789: Autodetect interface ...
14:57:21.054: Interface firmware version: 2.7.35
14:57:21.054: Connection to [FSV2] interface is OK
14:57:21.054: Autodetect PCM...
14:57:22.442: PCM not detected.
14:57:23.254: Disconnecting ...
14:57:24.190: CAN-VPW Bridge Deactivated
14:57:24.190: Disconnected
14:57:24.205: Data transfer was interrupted.
14:57:28.370: Done!

[dieselguy9311]

made it to like 5k loaded on that one.

[GMPX]

Looks like you are all up to date.
Maybe try reflashing through the V8 software instead. But to me it looks like something on the communications bus is interrupting the process, maybe try pulling the BCM fuse out as well. Things that are known problems are devices like iPod adaptors or XM radio adaptors that are wired on to the communications bus. Unfortunately they might not be disconnected when you unplug the radio fuse.

[dieselguy9311]

ok will try now thanks

[dieselguy9311]

i dont know where the bcm fuse is nots seeing it. also can i use my 7.5 files in v8 i dont ever use v8 so not sure

[GMPX]

I don't know where the BCM fuse is either sorry.
You can use your V7.5 files in V8 no problem.

So a very quick run down on flashing with V8.
Open the program.
Click on 'Tune' (or press F3)
Then when a new window pops up, choose 'Open' down the bottom.
Find the file you are trying to flash in and open it.
Then click on 'Full Flash' as it appears that is what you are trying to do.
Then click the "Full Flash' button again and see how it goes.

[Gregs]

i dont know where the bcm fuse is nots seeing it. also can i use my 7.5 files in v8 i dont ever use v8 so not sure

I believe its under the hood

[dieselguy9311]

ok i tried the v8 software and it does not even make it to the loading part says invalid serial number then end the run.

[GMPX]

Mmm ok, I think you are going to have to just start pulling fuses in the hope it kills whatever it is interrupting the bus. Previous poster gave a hint as to where the BCM fuse is.

[dieselguy9311]

ok if you could tell me which fuses not to pull i will pull all of the other ones. lol crazy stuff.

[GMPX]

I am sure when people have issues like this on the LLY it's always the Radio and BCM fuse that solves it. As for what not to pull, I don't know.

[Big Mike]

There can be up to four fuses for the body control module. One is in the underhood panel and there will be one, two or sometimes three more in the interior fuse panel. Pull anything labled "TBC". "TBC" is Truck Body Computer. Hope that helps.

[dieselguy9311]

Yes anything helps thanks alot.

[dieselguy9311]

Pulled all of the tbc fuses and a ton more fuse box is pretty empty made it the farthest it has but still only 41k out of 928k so really really far away.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Where are you located? Maybe you can find somebody with a bench narness to flash teh ECm that way so you can rule out the data bus.

[dieselguy9311]

shelbyville ky 40065

[dieselguy9311]

i have found out that you can pull every single fuse out of the in truck fuse box and still communicate with the truck. its still is trying to load but stops at random spots and says retrying previous block

[dieselguy9311]

Any other ideas guys i feel like im running out of them.

[ScarabEpic22]

Did you save the V7.5 tune file in the correct V8 format before trying to flash it?

[dieselguy9311]

i have just been using v7.5 would v8 be better

[dieselguy9311]

how do you change the format on those files i will try v8

[dieselguy9311]

ok well even though you all kind of left me hanging there at the end i really do appreciate all the help especially you GMPX i mean i know your a site admin and everything but it is nice that you are very knowledgeable about your stuff and willing to help out with guys like me that have never ran into this kind of thing before. I ended up figuring it out although i have not narrowed it down to one fuse but a collection of fuses that i had to pull out to get it going. And for the record none of them were the standard ones like radio info tbc bcm ones. i could leave all those alone. Which was very weird and frustrating for a long time. Worked on it for two days and posted in three different forums and you all were the only ones that helped me out. Thanks again. mail me text me anything you need i know how much of a pain in the butt it is when you just cant put it all together. Again and finally Thanks Alot all.

[GMPX]

Well, it's Saturday where I am, so apart from the early morning check (when I responded), I got stuff to do!!
Glad it's up an running though, it's certainly not the normal thing that needs to be done.

[cumminsDK]

Sorry just now seeing this had exact same issue in every way but one a few days ago. Pulled fuses and disconnected until ECM was only thing on (supposed to be)bus. Still no go and every time I attempted a flash in v7.5 I had to disconnect batteries to get ECM back. Was to the point of driving to a reputable performance shop in Danville, IN two hours away as I had to parts there anyway and they had kindly offered to let me use their bench harness. But being stubborn I kept at it (not knowing the issue kills me) and I pulled out the aftermarket radio and there was a module attached that retains the door chime with said aftermarket radio that was wired to battery+ with scotch locks and on the bus. Disconnected that and bam all is well. Wonder how many gm modules are deemed bad and replaced after a failed flash and dropping off the bus only to find out a new one does the same. With my issue after and attempt it wouldn't start flashing just say retrying previous block, then I stopped it and next attempt ECM not detected until disconnecting batteries! Hope this helps someone!

[ScarabEpic22]

Open it in V7.5, file save as then change the file format to V8 .ctz. Open that with V8 and flash it.

Sorry man, it's Ross/GMPX's Saturday (btw he's not just the site admin, he's the only coder cracking ECM/PCM/TCMs behind this entire product) and I check this during breaks at work. We try, but this for me isnt a full time job.

Try flashing using V8, Ive had much better luck with it vs V7.5.

[dieselguy9311]

Sorry if my message came across wrong I am extremely happy with the help that i Got I am not mad or upset at all at Ross or anybody. I was Giving Ross A special thanks for being the most helpful. Like i said i posted in 2 other forums and did not even get one person to give me advice. Very Very Very Happy that i posted here too. I understand people have other stuff going on. But just want to make sure that i comes across right that i am very happy with the help. Thanks again.

[GMPX]

I pulled out the aftermarket radio and there was a module attached that retains the door chime with said aftermarket radio that was wired to battery+ with scotch locks and on the bus. Disconnected that and bam all is well.
Yep, usually always turns out to be something hidden away that is on the bus (non factory).


Wonder how many gm modules are deemed bad and replaced after a failed flash and dropping off the bus only to find out a new one does the same.
I'd hate to think, it must drive GM dealers crazy.

[ScarabEpic22]

No worries at all, I know tempers can get the best of us at some times. Especially when frustrated as heck with a car, my dad and I just wrapped up our 4th day working on his 03 Audi A6. Replacing the cats on it, factory service manual entails dropping the entire engine/trans. We just got both sides out a bit ago just dropping the subframe, but we're probably 15-20hrs into it right now. The things coming out of my mouth weren't so nice...

I see from your other thread that you got it flashed, did V8 end up working for you?

[dieselguy9311]

no i never ended up using the v8. just stuck with what i know best. Sorry i didnt get back sooner i finished that truck and had another dsp5 to do about 2 hrs after that all went smooth on that lb7 never had a problem with those.