V2 won't data log

[Quinton]

Any one know why my v2 would log or do anything when it's hooked up to a vehicle? I've tried different vehicles and I get the same error. It used to work but now it doesn't after the update. Here is a pic I've updated everything and it shows I did. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/24/e2ezu7yg.jpg

[joecar]

After you flashed in the latest firmware into your V2, did you do BBx Program All...?

[Quinton]

How do you do that?

[Quinton]

Everything that I know of is up to date.

[joecar]

How do you do that?Start V8 S&T, goto BBx, click Open, click downarrow->Program All...


--> note: you have to do Program All... doing just Program is not sufficient <---

[joecar]

Everything that I know of is up to date.If it was, then you would not see that LCD screem saying the *.pmm file is incompatible with firmware.

[Quinton]

Okay ill check as soon as I get home. Another question I've got a buddy that has the same thing kinda. He also said he has updated everything. This is what his says when he try's to log his truck with the laptop connected. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/25/egygahet.jpg

[Quinton]

Start V8 S&T, goto BBx, click Open, click downarrow->Program All...


--> note: you have to do Program All... doing just Program is not sufficient <---

After doing this it won't even let me select a controller now? It stops at this screen now. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/25/u3uryja7.jpg

[Quinton]

I selected my control and programmed it but it won't let me watch anything off the v2 like it used to. Like balance rates and all that.

[Quinton]

I can't find program all on my drop down? http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/26/a2uzy2er.jpg

[Quinton]

Any ideas?

[IJ.]

I can't find program all on my drop down? http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/26/a2uzy2er.jpg

See the red program button?

There's a drop down arrow beside it.

[Quinton]

See the red program button?

There's a drop down arrow beside it.

Ya I did that to. Still nothing. I let it program all and it still didn't work.

[Quinton]

Any ideas?

[IJ.]

Did you "format CONFIG file system" first?

[Quinton]

Where do I go to do that? Don't remember doing it.

[IJ.]

Same drop down arrow

[joecar]

Updating the firmware (obtained by updating the software) is not sufficient (you will see those screens you posted)...

[ BTW: don't do Update, but rather download the software and manually install it, and use EFILive Explorer to manually flash the bootblock/firmware into V2) ]


You must also run the V8 S&T software, goto BBx and on each of the Scan and Tune tabs make sure you edit/add items that are for your ECM (you can delete the others)...

[ BBx Scan tab = this is where you define pidlists for your ECM; BBx Tune tab= this is where you identify you ECM ]

then you have to do Program All (doing Program is not sufficient)... you access Program All via the downarrow next to the Program button.



And also: in Win7/8 you have to run V8 S&T or V8 EE as Administator.

[Quinton]

Okay so for any time I want to use my v2 for data logging or watching pids off of it I have to hook it up to the the vehicle and then program all for the pids for that vehicle?? And why is it showing this after I click display data or select pids? http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/29/vuhajy2e.jpg

[joecar]

No, something else has gone wrong... can you retrace your steps...

Did you also format the Config space before doing Program All...?

Did any of the bar graphs on the BBx display go red (not enough room)...?


Do this from BBx:
- format the Config space,
- open the Options.txt file (containing your pidlists and ECM),
- check that the bargraph at bottom left is not red )post screenshot),
- do Program All, wait for it to finish.

Edit: note that he has no pids in the pidlists (see what Blacky says below).

[Quinton]

Ok here are the screen shots. Config file system. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/29/da3egajy.jpg
Open option.txt http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/29/ja5y8ana.jpg
Program ALL http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/29/u3egugum.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/29/ze4ege8y.jpg
Right?

[Blacky]

You don't have any controllers or PIDs selected, so you won't see any data being logged.
You should have something like this (for example to log data on an E38 controller):

15163

Regards
Paul

[Quinton]

You don't have any controllers or PIDs selected, so you won't see any data being logged.
You should have something like this (for example to log data on an E38 controller):

15163

Regards
Paul

Yes I've done this but didn't program all. Wasn't sure if it was right. But this is what I was wondering. Will I have to hook up to the vehicle with the laptop first to select the pids for it then save it?

[Blacky]

Yes I've done this but didn't program all. Wasn't sure if it was right. But this is what I was wondering. Will I have to hook up to the vehicle with the laptop first to select the pids for it then save it?

No, you can configure it all without the vehicle connected. That's the whole point of Black Box Logging.

Step 1: Select the controller(s) and PIDs you want to log (on the [F2: Scan] tab page).
Step 2: Select the controller(s) that you want to read/flash if you want to read and flash any controllers (on the [F3: Tune] tab page).
Step 3: If you are using EFILive's switchable tunes, enter the tune names for your switchable tunes (on the [F4: Switch] tab page).
Step 4: Select which DTC description files you want to be copied to your device (on the [F5: DTCs] tab page). If you do not select any DTC description files then you save will a lot of space on you device, space that you can use for more data logging or more tune files. However, without any description files, when you display trouble codes you won't be able to see the codes' descriptions.

Step 5. Select Program->Format CONFIG file system to clear out any existing settings.
Step 6. Select [Program] to copy all the configuration files required for the selections that you have made **.
Step 7. Wait for the programming to complete.
Step 8. Disconnect the device and take it to your vehicle.
Step 9. Connect to your vehicle.
Step 10. Select the controller/PIDs you want to data log
Step 11. Start logging.

Step 12. Stop logging.
Step 13. Disconnect from vehicle (after the blue LED has turned off - which indicates the data has finished saving)
Step 14. Connect your device back to your PC.
Step 15. Use EFILive Explorer to copy the Scan (and/or tune) files from the device to your PC.
Step 16. Display the log files in the Scan Tool (both V7.5 and V8 Scan Tools will display the logged data).


**
Clicking the [Program] option will only copy files that are newer than the files on your device. This can save time by not re-copying the same files each time you make a small change to your PID selections.
Clicking the [Program All] option will copy all files regardless whether the files are newer or not.
Clicking the [Program Selections Only] option will only copy the Options.txt file -don't use that option unless you've only made changes to the PID selections and have not added any new controllers.
Clicking the [Format CONFIG file system] option will delete all files that exist on the device. It is usually a good idea to format the config file system at least once after updating the software. It ensures that old (and probably out of date) files are removed and ar enot hanging around potentially causing compatibility problems with the updated software/firmware.

Regards
Paul

[Quinton]

Okay I got it now. I guess I need a SD card now! I thought they could hold more than only a few pids. Don't want to lose the DTC's. thanks for all the help!!

[Blacky]

Okay I got it now. I guess I need a SD card now! I thought they could hold more than only a few pids. Don't want to lose the DTC's. thanks for all the help!!


The SD Card won't increase the CONFIG file system size. That's fixed at around 2MB in the internal memory inside FlashScan. Within that memory, you can configure many controllers and up to 32 sets of PIDs selections each with as many PIDs as each controller supports. The blue bar at the bottom of the windows shows how much of the internal CONFIG file system is required to store your configuration selections.

Adding an SD card will allow you to log more data and store more tune files.

Regards
Paul

[Quinton]

The SD Card won't increase the CONFIG file system size. That's fixed at around 2MB in the internal memory inside FlashScan. Within that memory, you can configure many controllers and up to 32 sets of PIDs selections each with as many PIDs as each controller supports. The blue bar at the bottom of the windows shows how much of the internal CONFIG file system is required to store your configuration selections.

Adding an SD card will allow you to log more data and store more tune files.

Regards
Paul

Ohhhh okay. Thank you so much for your help. One more question I just tried to tune a 2002 lb7 duramax (E54 controller I believe) and after pulling the stock tune it showed me this and wouldn't let me tune it because of it. Any ideas? When I try my truck it works fine just not his, and I tuned another lb7 and Lbz few days ago just fine. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/29/radu5usu.jpg

[Blacky]

The LB7 NVRAM (non-volatile ram) memory area has been corrupted by a previous programming procedure. Most likely because a non-compatible OS was flashed into the controller. GM's SPS system can ( and does ) cause that. Unfortunately, there is nothing that can be done to fix that via the OBDII port. The flash chip needs to be removed and reprogrammed in a chip programmer. Socal Diesel can perform that work. Their contact details are listed here: https://www.efilive.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=60&Itemid=153

Regards
Paul