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BACKinBLACK
April 5th, 2006, 05:12 PM
I put in my F14 (all supporting valvetrain) along with a fast 90/90 setup. I have mac mids, with a cat'd ypipe (soon to be ory), a cut out, lid, and a few other misc mods. Before i installed my cam and intake i would race my friends with 99 WS6 stock, and a few friends with vettes with exhaust and i would pull them easily.

Well now that i have had all this installed from what i can tell i cant pull on them at all. I have not got it on a dyno or auto VE'd it yet but i have tuned a little bit for idle and thats really it. It runs decently everywhere and feels like it pulls ok but just doesnt have what i expected. I have logged and find my fuel trims to be +14 or more in some areas and at least +7 almost everywhere. Also at WOT in the upper rpms my injectors got up to 101 Duty cycle , so i would guess tha means the motor has potential since its needing that much fuel.

What kind of numbers did ppl put down with a cam untuned? Will tuning it make that much of a difference?

I have been reading on ls1tech where lots of pps with just little TR224s and TR227s have been putting down close to 380's+ untuned so it really makes me disappointed in my setup.

Its a 2000 SS M6.

I guess really im just looking for some hope that a good tune will bring it up to what i expected from it. Im hoping for at least 400RWHP+ , do you guys think that is a fair estimate?

TAQuickness
April 5th, 2006, 09:47 PM
you are doing more harm than good running untuned.

I would do the following:
larger injectors
IFR table
Idle
AutoVE
go racing

BACKinBLACK
April 6th, 2006, 03:43 AM
yeah since i logged it and saw what my ltft's and my injectors are at i decided that i will cruise with it but i wont race anyone anymore or anything. Do you think it will harm anything motor wise just to cruise around in it? I wouldnt think so but i could be wrong. Also if anyone knows of a good deal on some SVO 30lbrs let me know.

TAQuickness
April 6th, 2006, 03:54 AM
just change your oil every 1k miles or so. rich condition will contaminate your oil.

BowlingSS
April 6th, 2006, 03:57 AM
I would tune it as soon as possible. Your O2's do not like running rich.

Bill:notacrook:

BACKinBLACK
April 6th, 2006, 05:58 AM
Yes i would imagine the 02's wont last long. I only drive it about 1 time a week if that, and only about 40 miles at the most. It just usually sits in my shop, well at least it will until i have time to get it finished. Its killing me, hopefully ill have time sat. to cut my cats off and install my wideband... thats all im waiting on is time :Eyecrazy:

jfpilla
April 6th, 2006, 10:41 AM
Running rich? His trims are positive(adding fuel for a lean condition). That could be a reason for the duty cycle, but likely need larger injectors. Trims are compensating at part throttle so it's not dangerous. What you don't know is where are you at WOT.
Yes, I would think a tune will do wonders. 400 is possible.

BACKinBLACK
April 6th, 2006, 03:10 PM
well i ordered some new SVO 30lbers today around 230 shipped. :cheers:
anyways is this the correct rate that i will plug into B4001?

30# SVO @ 43.5psi
34.646988
34.871482
35.095977
35.320471
35.544966
35.694630
35.919123
36.143618
36.368112
36.517776
36.742270
36.966765
37.191259
37.340922
37.565417
37.789911
37.939574



i hope so. Now im just waiting for my custom nitrous panel switch and my stand alone fuel system then its spray away... once i get it tuned that is. im really hoping that i wont be disappointed with all of this money that i have spent.