Cal links.txt

[TFZ_Z06]

Where does EFI LIVE 7.5 expect to find this file on disk? It appears as if the file is not found or not being used.

I have used the RR endlessly without problem, but today I was trying to autotune my VE table with
RR. I was able to log both MAP and RPM, but my BEN variable, which I call CALC.WB_VE_ADJ is not showing up in the RR box and thus no changes are made to VE.

[TFZ_Z06]

Ok, I think I figured it out. Good ol search routine.

[joecar]

The new cal link files have filenames like this: LS1B_Link.ini, E38_Link.ini, E40_Link.ini...

[TFZ_Z06]

Thank you sir. VE tune up in 30 minutes. : )

[TFZ_Z06]

The new cal link files have filenames like this: LS1B_Link.ini, E38_Link.ini, E40_Link.ini...

at tuning shop. file not in update 245.

[TFZ_Z06]

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!! I found it AND working.

[joecar]

( in Program Files\EFILive\V7.5\Configuration )

Ok, cool :cheers:

[cindy@efilive]

I know you've found it, but this is a link to what was changed, why, and when if your interested.

http://www.efilive.com/latest/cat/newsletter/post/calibration-file-linking-change/

Cheers
Cindy

[SW1911]

I cant find these files or know where to put and use them , seems there really isnt one good tutorial on the RR from start to finish just alot of filler and in between stuff , this isnt a punch in the face but for 900 bucks there should be some better info in the FAQ see you soon joecar

[SW1911]

is this the file ??? and what do I do with it ???

this was a good write up but left this out http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/tuning-diagnostics-electronics-wiring-161/how-ve-tuning-stfts-wideband-efi-live-road-runner-515906/

[TFZ_Z06]

is this the file ??? and what do I do with it ???

this was a good write up but left this out http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/tuning-diagnostics-electronics-wiring-161/how-ve-tuning-stfts-wideband-efi-live-road-runner-515906/

Nothing to change really unless you want to add a new CALC PID to it. I have one called CALC.VEADJ that creates a multiplier based on AFR and MAP.
It is used for the RoadRunner to do live tuning.

[joecar]

I cant find these files or know where to put and use them , seems there really isnt one good tutorial on the RR from start to finish just alot of filler and in between stuff , this isnt a punch in the face but for 900 bucks there should be some better info in the FAQ see you soon joecar

This is where they go:


( in Program Files\EFILive\V7.5\Configuration )

Ok, cool :cheers:

[SW1911]

damn that would be Kool for my s/c tunes , are you willing to shoot me a copy thanks dude

Joecar where are you LOL oh sheit you got me again ,,,,edit screen name change lol

[joecar]

I take it you saw this thread: RoadRunner-FAQs (https://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?9896-gt-gt-gt-RoadRunner-FAQs-lt-lt-lt&p=205801#post205801)

[joecar]

lol :cheers:

[SW1911]

of course , ive read almost everything , you sound like a great guy and a dedicated member and moderator who is very knowable to helping people , you have bee awesome Thanks you , and I bet if we met and-had some beers we could go out back and mash it up and go back to drinking

thanks again

Jim

[joecar]

Thank you for you kind comment (and for reading my stuff).

Beer goes very well with everything and does improve life in general :cheers:

[SW1911]

ok so im hooked up and ratcs is active , my tool keeps going into demo mode and I cant seem to find anything that makes sense on how to link your pids , I have nothing showing up in the right column , and i have read everything that i possibly could even went back to the scan tool tutorial

Thanks a bunch
jim

[joecar]

Look for the file LS1_links.ini

[SW1911]

I have it in efi live

[SW1911]

Actually i dont 16871

[SW1911]

16873 software version

[SW1911]

Sorry for the double post

[cindy@efilive]

Actually i dont 16871

Its in your screen shot - LS1_Link

Cheers
Cindy

[SW1911]

could my pid list be wrong ? or is that even possible , when rr is active it scans cells like in my ve but there is no name in the right corner

thanks for chiming in cindy

jim

[SW1911]

also I should add im on a splitter for the usb , when i bought the RR they said that wasnt a problem

[SW1911]

16882

this shows RR active and counting cells without changes because i dont know and cant find in ant search for days on how to link the calc txt files to the Rr, im stuck

[joecar]

Several things:

in the tunetool use kPa for the MAP axis;

in the scantool select Metric units for MAP;

in the scantool what BEN pid are you logging (if you have serial comms from your wideband, then this pid will be CALC.WO2BEN)...?

[SW1911]

i dont know joe , maybe tackling two new tools at one time isnt a good combo , I think im close and fail ,,, I really do not like the fact that there isnt a complete write up on a sophisticated tool as this even the setup takes an act of congress ,and no documentation from moates ,sent them an email and I feel like they made me out to be an idiot anyway i used this pid at someones comment about matching my aem up ,, very frustrated at this point ,,,and i dont see a linK_map anywhere so im stuck on rpm only at 15 kpa with no correction

[5.7ute]

As Joe stated before. Ensure that both the tune tool & scan tool are using the same units.

[joecar]

In scantool: goto PIDs tab, click on MAP, do rightcllick->Metric, restart scantool.

In tunetool: go Edit->Configure Display Units, click on B0101, do rightclick->Col Units->Metric, click Ok, restart tunetool.

[SW1911]

yes sir , just got back from the heart doctor will get on it soon ,its starting to make more sense
thanks joe , and Mick

[joecar]

!? hope you're doing ok...

[SW1911]

Just a relapse , super high blood pressure , glad the cat is ok ? here is a pid list , just basic to start just to get running ,now I can see errors I made with the imp to metric , not sure if my wideband is kicking it right but there is change now

[SW1911]

must be doing something right ,lol its beer time :bash: , that was only 3 miles , tomorrow i will hit the highway at hit asmany cells that I can then move to timing . the rr does not like a splitter at all for any one trying it , what do ya think joe

[joecar]

That looks like you got it working :cheers:

Sorry I could not call today, the plumbing clog started to turn serious (but our able plumber just now managed to clear it :cheers:)

[joecar]

Yeah, cat's ok, he's running on one kidney, I have to give him IV fluids every few days under his skin.

[SW1911]

yeah I have two pugs ! they are always at the vet ..... thanks for all of your help and putting up with me ,,, I just didnt put enough time into it , can i buy you some beer bro ?

[joecar]

no problem...

it's an excuse to pull out my RR and play with it :cheers:

[SW1911]

Cheers

[SW1911]

I found a few problems that I dont know if they are normal,,,,,my tool goes into demo mode no matter how I try and start it and the scanner locks up alot, and one important thing I overlooked was my wideband was only 10.24 on the scanner its an aem arrgh might order an lc2 whatcha think joe

[joecar]

Did you enter the V7 software license info from the blue card...?

Which wideband do you have (I don't remember anything any more)...? Is it stuck at AFR 10.24...?

[SW1911]

its an aem 30-4100 yes everything entered and is visible not stuck different values with different widebands which make sense check it out,

I think it may be partially the cable causing the drop out in scanning (no problems with any other dlc tools ) i can pull up a file and its fine , when I pull up roadrunner and pull the tune is where the license issue comes into play and i cant save my modified file , could be me doing something wrong ?

edit wide band is now working , still in demo and now I understand the linking process but when i go to timing with the row and axis links no workie the calc pid does not show up in the rr box

[SW1911]

here is my pid list for ve and timing

[SW1911]

Ok almost all problems solved , except the row and axis for timing control , I took a nice ride up the highway and my ve was dinging the whole way up, on the way back i did a fine run with blending wow did it really change here is a shot after

[SW1911]

shot from a hand built table , and this is a stock 4.3 s10 with 36 lb injectors running SD anything look odd or out of place ????

Thanks Guys
told you I would be a pain in the ASS

JIm:mrgreen:

I just noticed I turned Senior :rippedhand: but im close 42 so no senior discounts

[joecar]

Looks good to me, just flatten those spikes.

[SW1911]

SHOULD i BLEND IN THE OTHER FASHION ? STILL CANT GET TIMING UP AND WORKING , IM FOLLOWING THE ROW AND AXIS PIDS NEEDED ???

thanks
Joe
YOU HAVE BEEN tremendous help

[5.7ute]

What pid are you using to modify timing?

[SW1911]

its in my pid list about three posts up Mick thats what i was told to use post 44

thanks
Jim

[5.7ute]

OK. So are you saying that when you have the spark table up the tune & scan tool are not linked?

[SW1911]

yes correct

[5.7ute]

In that screen shot the pids do not appear to be validated. (reading N/A) when logging are you getting any values shown?

[SW1911]

some , but i believe i dont have the proper calc pids setup and im not sure which ones ,,, i have come a long way and i will get this
thanks Mick

[5.7ute]

Can you post a screen shot of your pids list data page after a log? (Same as your other pic) If GM.DYNCYLAIR.DMA is not supported for your OS we will have to find another pid that is.

[SW1911]

should be in here bro , Thanx

[5.7ute]

I will have to wait till lunch to have a look as I do not have efilive on this pc. I will get back to you asap.

[SW1911]

kool bro

[joecar]

SHOULD i BLEND IN THE OTHER FASHION ?

...No, don't blend... just manually flatten the spikes/holes without disturbing the surrounding cells.

[joecar]

Also post a screenshot of your spark table.

[SW1911]

spark

[5.7ute]

Check your units. You are viewing spark in oz/cyl but logging G/cyl. Going from your previous screenshot of the pid list.

[joecar]

Jim,

Follow these links:



configuring units in scantool:
- on PIDs (F8) tab, on each pid do rightclick->Imperial,
- on Data (F9) tab, verify that that all those pids show Imperial units.


configuring units in tunetool:
Configuring-the-calibration-display-units (https://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?164-Configuring-the-calibration-display-units)
Part-throttle-shift-table-conversion (https://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?1757-Part-throttle-shift-table-conversion)
Can-you-go-from-C-to-F-degrees (https://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?2722-Can-you-go-from-C-to-F-degrees)


Also see this (regarding the units of MAP):
Scan-tool-match-tune-tool (https://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?7550-Scan-tool-match-tune-tool)
Runway-highlighting-not-tracking (https://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?7324-Runway-highlighting-not-tracking)

Set MAP to Metric (kPa).

[SW1911]

great reading as usual Joe , seem my calc link gm.dyncylair_dma will not show up any way I change things in the rr box , could It be in mt text file wrong ? or am I just plain messing it up

[joecar]

great reading as usual Joe , seem my calc link gm.dyncylair_dma will not show up any way I change things in the rr box , could It be in mt text file wrong ? or am I just plain messing it up
In tunetool do:
- Edit->Configure Display Properties,
- click on the Col Units column heading (to sort by that column),
- scroll down until you see a bunch of "Oz/Cylinder" units (should be all grouped together due to the sorting),
- hightlight the group,
- do rightclick->Column Label Units->Metric,
- click Ok.
- reopen your timing table.

[SW1911]

1692816929ok did what you said still no link , pulling your hair out yet ? , if I had some I would be ,,,,RR needs instruction or a superb write up

[5.7ute]

Well the tables are being tracked fine now. What pid are you trying to use to modify the timing table? If it is a custom calc pid you have wrote it needs to be added to the cal link text file for the tables you are modifying.
Personally I just have the RR in emulation mode, track the table by logging the axis pids & modify the tables using the function keys. (F7 & F8 IIRC)

[SW1911]

No mick im using the calc txt link with no mods as you and see the link I need is in my pid list , I wonder if its the custom o/s ???? they are being tracked but no link so no changes

[5.7ute]

Tune tool is tracking fine. (You can see the blue square that moves around the table cells) The blank space is due to no parameter being linked to modify the table.
For instance when doing RTACS for the VE table. RPM & MAP are logged to designate which cell the pcm is using. BEN is used as the modifier for the cell which is highlighted & performs the changes until you hit the percentage of accuracy you have designated.
There is no pid written to modify the timing table. On a dyno you could make a calc pid that reads torque & modifies timing until MBT is achieved. (if the dyno can be linked into Efilive like the Mainline Dyno's over here )
Or you could write a pid that increases timing until knock is present & back off a few degrees. Not recommended as highly inaccurate.
Whatever you decide to do, to use real time tuning on any table you need to modify the cal link text to have your custom calc pid linked to it.

[joecar]

Jim, you have to manually edit the timing table (while RR is running). You could make a modfier pid that subtracts the pid GM.KR, but this is not recommended.

[SW1911]

iI found a weird problem which is two fold , first all software and pids for scanner are in imperial , but trying t do ve I have to switch map to metric for it to work and I tried this on several computers . second i have one computer that is correctly licensed for RR and efi and it stays in demo and the splitter doesn't work correctly scanner drops out about every two minutes , and im curious what else besides ve and or boost tables I can run and correct with RR , Joe we need a write up , a complete one I know Im new but I will help get it started ,maybe we can pull all of the good info of the threads and put those together and finish it , It would free you and others up alot to help with other issues

[joecar]

setting units to Metric in scantool:
- goto PIDs tab,
- click twice on column heading "Units" (sorts the pid list on that column),
- scroll down until you see a group of pids with units "kPa,PSI",
- highlight that group of pids (click on the first one, hold SHIFT, click on last one, release SHIFT),
- on the highlighted pids do rightclick->Metric (the Default column will now say Metric.

setting units to Metric in the scantool maps:
- choose a map (click the map's letter tab),
- goto the map properties,
- on each of the Data, Row and Column tabs select the Metric variant of the pid of interest,
- remember to checkmark "Show Units" on each tab,
- remember to save the map.

[joecar]

On PC where EFILive V7 software says Demo mode, go Help->Register EFILive copy the blue card details exactly (the date field is non-US style)...

also enter your RR serial number;

i.e. see attached:


16947


Click Ok.

And then copy the file \My Documents\EFILive\V7.5\User Configuration\License.txt to all your PC's.

[joecar]

Are you using the old USB driver...?

Start->All Programs->EFILive->V8->EFILive USB Manager, and install 2.02.04.

[SW1911]

so I should set the scan tool and the tune tool to all metric ? and yes the driver is updated , but why when im set to imperial everywhere do iz need to set map to metric ? its boggling my mind

[joecar]

It will be easiest to set everything to Metric.

In the map properties, an available pid will have two variants: Metric (e.g. SAE.MAP.kPa) and Imperial (SAE.MAP.psi)... choose the Metric variant.