2012 Ram ECU BIN file

[piciu82]

Hi guys, thats a ecu read of 2012 dodge ram with cm2200 ECU

p/n 5268444
s/n 22486
d/c 12/20/2011
ESN 58098438
E/C CM90017.03

now what I can use to edit it, calterm ??
ECu got a Motorola MPC5556 MPU
I read it using alientech KTAG

[catman3126]

So the KTAG does work for a CM2200? sure be nice if chris@AT was worth a shit at a tech guy. I have asked him for info on the CM ecm's with Ktag's. good to know.

[GMPX]

now what I can use to edit it, calterm ??
Or you know, on the EFILive forum...maybe EFILive perhaps?

[piciu82]

after loading file to efilive as a bin file it doesn't recognize it, read is 100% good,

[GMPX]

Yeah, there is some memory that the KTAG can't access that EFILive expects to be there (a secondary CPU), it is also required to reflash the ECM via OBD-II.

[piciu82]

I can try galletto

[piciu82]

no communication with ecu using galletto :(,

[30 RUM]

Well I guess I will ask; what hardware is needed to do a complete data read and import into EFILive?

[catman3126]

Well I guess I will ask; what hardware is needed to do a complete data read and import into EFILive?

You won't get an answer to that from them. They won't tell everyone. Just the people that help develope it. It's how they keep the big tuners supported and weed out the small guys. That way they only have to support a small group of tuners. Also that way they aren't the ones providing all of us with delete parameters. Be nice if they would tell us what equipment to use or what software to use to do the tuning. But that would mean more tune writers to support.

[GMPX]

catman3126, let me just clear a few things up. EFILive does not own any of the Euro tuning software/hardware such as KTAG or Galletto etc, but it would be fair to assume the 'big tuners' as you put it do, they maybe have several versions, so why is that then turned back around to us providing them favours? Yes I know there is a $10K+ entry point to get some of that stuff but again that isn't our fault, it is also not our fault that Cummins and Bosch (LML) locked them down from being read out, that is just how it is and we too had to re-think the way things were done.
We worked with a couple of the Euro tuners on the LML ECM to ensure the files read out using their JTAG hardware would work with EFILive, no individual favours were done there, everyone has the same opportunity.
If you want to know how 'the big tuners' are doing their tunes outside EFILive, we don't know because that is their business, I am sure if I asked they wouldn't tell me either just like KFC wouldn't tell everyone the 12 secret herbs and spices.

[30 RUM]

Yeah I pretty much figured that question would fall on deaf ears as how to read out the CM2200 and Cm2350's.
No offense other EFILive, just would be nice to know what is needed for the cummins ecm's.

[catman3126]

catman3126, let me just clear a few things up. EFILive does not own any of the Euro tuning software/hardware such as KTAG or Galletto etc, but it would be fair to assume the 'big tuners' as you put it do, they maybe have several versions, so why is that then turned back around to us providing them favours? Yes I know there is a $10K+ entry point to get some of that stuff but again that isn't our fault, it is also not our fault that Cummins and Bosch (LML) locked them down from being read out, that is just how it is and we too had to re-think the way things were done.
We worked with a couple of the Euro tuners on the LML ECM to ensure the files read out using their JTAG hardware would work with EFILive, no individual favours were done there, everyone has the same opportunity.
If you want to know how 'the big tuners' are doing their tunes outside EFILive, we don't know because that is their business, I am sure if I asked they wouldn't tell me either just like KFC wouldn't tell everyone the 12 secret herbs and spices.

Ok this is simple then. What equipment or programs does your import feature work with? All or any that you know of. I know that you don't own any of the other equipment I've been aware of that for awhile. I bet I can find the post that said something to the effect "we have been asked not to divulge what software or equipment was used or can be used" by this we are given a feature that we aren't given any info as to what we can use to utilize it? I'm asking right now what does it take?

[GMPX]

Ok this is simple then. What equipment or programs does your import feature work with?
What we know is what is needed to be able to successfully flash the tunes via OBD-II, as long as your files have everything there then they will work with EFILive.

[Taz]

Hi guys ... I don't work with diesels at all ... but I find the tuning of these interesting. Here is a link to a YouTube video. Should give you some insight into what the tuners are up against with these ECMs.

https://www.google.com/url?url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DkynXjan7O0Q&rct=j&frm=1&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjxhffb_LTMAhUpuYMKHXEEBNUQtwIIGTAB&usg=AFQjCNEK_aB99BpC4tZ7KLZCvDi52CkH8w

[GMPX]

Hi guys ... I don't work with diesels at all ... but I find the tuning of these interesting. Here is a link to a YouTube video. Should give you some insight into what the tuners are up against with these ECMs.
Yes, this is all too common with European vehicles (this is also what MUST happen with the Dodge EcoDiesel ECM). Although Cummins and the LML are partially locked down it could be a lot worse as that video demonstrates when tuning via the CPU debug ports is the only option. This is what the Alientech type products are used for.
I suspect for that market when the current generation ECM's are replaced the tuning game will end, the manufacturers know what gaps they left open now and they will be closed. Sure where there is a will there is a way but with serious computing power coming very cheap now there is no reason why they couldn't put on the fly decryption in the ECM's for all the maps, then that is it, hang up your boots and go home.

[GMC-2002-Dmax]

Yes, this is all too common with European vehicles (this is also what MUST happen with the Dodge EcoDiesel ECM). Although Cummins and the LML are partially locked down it could be a lot worse as that video demonstrates when tuning via the CPU debug ports is the only option. This is what the Alientech type products are used for.
I suspect for that market when the current generation ECM's are replaced the tuning game will end, the manufacturers know what gaps they left open now and they will be closed. Sure where there is a will there is a way but with serious computing power coming very cheap now there is no reason why they couldn't put on the fly decryption in the ECM's for all the maps, then that is it, hang up your boots and go home.

Stand Alone ECM's for off-road and performance will be the answer then.

Just like any other road block, if there is a market there will be a product, instead of playing in their sandbox, build your own sandbox to play in without all the nonsense.

The amount of tunable vehicles is massive, I still tune 2001 LB7's, they are 15 years old.

If we can just get Trump to dismantle green policies and the EPA completely then it will be a good day !!

[catman3126]

Stand Alone ECM's for off-road and performance will be the answer then.

Just like any other road block, if there is a market there will be a product, instead of playing in their sandbox, build your own sandbox to play in without all the nonsense.

The amount of tunable vehicles is massive, I still tune 2001 LB7's, they are 15 years old.

If we can just get Trump to dismantle green policies and the EPA completely then it will be a good day !!

That's no shit. Gotta get him in there first. I know where my vote will go but I have my doubts. Is there any options for aftermarket ecms now? Not much that I have seen

[GMC-2002-Dmax]

None that I know of, but if things keep going down a rathole then the aftermarket will respond.

The issue I see with the new ones is all the CAN Messaging issues on these newer LML's and Cummins, if the engine is not in a truck that needs all the messages then its a great platform.

The LML in my opinion has the most potential with the higher pressure piezio injectors, the response of the injectors and the processing power of the ecm is far and above anything else in the previous models, if the code could all be stripped out of the nonsense it would be far better.

LBZ code structure ( LESS ANY EMISSIONS CODE ) in an LML with a Fixed Vane charger pr VVT and no nonsense tables is a dream setup.

I still think LB7's make the most power than any other model, LBZ is probably the second highest HP/TQ Model.

I had both and have tuned tons of them and the LB7 is still my favorite, just the injectors suck.

[GMPX]

Stand Alone ECM's for off-road and performance will be the answer then.
Probably, but to develop an ECM that would run lets say a Cummins, FORD and GM Diesel as a 100% plug and play would cost maybe 10 - 15 Million only to have it made illegal for sale within the first 6 months, I doubt anyone would risk it.

[MobileProg]

Motec M1 can drive most diesel injectors and you can write your own code for it. Or take an OEM design and use it as a reference design. CM2350 has lots of grunt and flash space. The right team, and RTOS you would be good to go. It would take years to make all the truck accessories work going backwards but the engine side ( no emissions) could be done in a year or two.

All this is fantasy land theory BS anyhow. EFI crew has to play ball with the EPA to put bread on their table and not get the wrong people mad. You cant fault them for that.

[GMPX]

All this is fantasy land theory BS anyhow. EFI crew has to play ball with the EPA to put bread on their table and not get the wrong people mad. You cant fault them for that.
Thank you for this comment, I'm glad some people see how the real world works in 2016.

The CM2350 would be a great hardware platform to use but I wonder how deep the copyright problem would go with reusing portions of Cummins own code, as in the boot code and I/O code that sets up the actual hardware itself.

[MobileProg]

Not sure. I know a guy personally that has his own flash kernel for MPC5xxx devices. I think if you got Wind River Diab and VXworks you could go to town. MPC code plays nice in IDA between learning how it works and writing your own code it could be done.

[GMPX]

I think if you got Wind River Diab and VXworks you could go to town.
Then if you could do that you'd end up as senior programmer at Cummins without all the headaches :grin:

[piciu82]

cm2200 is very similar, pay attention to oscillator your shorting, so far im reading it to back up the ecu just in case of failure, I use witech wit minivci pod2 to update ecu first just in case it was edited before by other tuners, (happened to me before and bricked up ecu) rest id done with efilive, some people r using cummins calterm to edit calibration settings and upload them back to ecu using engine bay diagnostic port, but theres same problem it cannot be read only programmed,
btw I am very happy user of efilive, it deos everyth I want, I just wish for epa b gone spray :)

[MobileProg]

cm2200 is very similar, pay attention to oscillator your shorting, so far im reading it to back up the ecu just in case of failure, I use witech wit minivci pod2 to update ecu first just in case it was edited before by other tuners, (happened to me before and bricked up ecu) rest id done with efilive, some people r using cummins calterm to edit calibration settings and upload them back to ecu using engine bay diagnostic port, but theres same problem it cannot be read only programmed,
btw I am very happy user of efilive, it deos everyth I want, I just wish for epa b gone spray :)

Wonder if those points can be traced back to bootcfg0/1 ?
Several oscillators. Without knowing the purpose its hard to know why they are jumping that.
Did find bootcfg0/1. Thinking if one can tell CPU to boot from other location than normal you can then load custom code into that location and make it do your bidding.
CM2200 Jtag
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[gerbot_4000]

Hi guys, thats a ecu read of 2012 dodge ram with cm2200 ECU

p/n 5268444
s/n 22486
d/c 12/20/2011
ESN 58098438
E/C CM90017.03

now what I can use to edit it, calterm ??
ECu got a Motorola MPC5556 MPU
I read it using alientech KTAG
Hey there! Can you post the connections to do it please? Right now I have 2 of this ECMs, and mostl likely one of them is NEW. The other one is a job but need to read it and I cant