Cme 2350 csp os

[2007 5.9]

Have started tuning my 14 Ram that has the S87 recall done (SCR Replacement) and my OS and Cal ID are the most recent versions and I suspect most here in the states will get at some point as the recalls go through....

My OS and Cal ID are not avail to upgrade to CSP, is there a plan to do this?

I am running emissions equipped and have to run that file as any older ones throw lights for missing ammonia sensor...

Here are the numbers....

32131000
32381032SC

2014 3500 Aisin

Thanks
Les

[GMPX]

Hi Les, that OS has been replaced by 32.13.11.01 (32381032SD), that is the one we will be releasing as the 2013 CSP5 OS for the ammonia trucks, when did you have the update done?
The OS I mentioned hasn't actually been mapped yet though as it was only released maybe a month or two ago.

I am pretty sure you have a CSP option for the OS 32.13.09.02 (32381032SB) which has the ammonia sensor.

[2007 5.9]

I bought the truck in June and it needed the flash done then.

So I can download the newest as you mentioned and at some point it'll be updated for csp?

[2007 5.9]

The S87 recall replaces the entire SCR and removes the ammonia sensor

[GMPX]

Ah sorry I keep getting it backwards.
The CalID that ends in Ax is with the sensor (eg 31320030AM), the ones that end in Sx are without (eg 31320030SB).

If you follow the link to the 2013 stock files in THIS (https://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?28187-2010-Cummins-stock-tune-library) thread you just need to look for '32.13.09.02 - DO90007.21 32381032SB 2013 D2 6.7L AISIN 50S', that has a CSP option and being 'SB' should have the Ammonia sensor delete.
32.13.11.01 (32381032SD) will have a CSP conversion done, they did a big update for all year models about a month ago so lots of files to map as stock and CSP.

[2007 5.9]

Ran into this issue when trying to upgrade that Cal to CSP.



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[GMPX]

Is that on the latest software?

[2007 5.9]

Is that on the latest software?

Yes public release, just downloaded Monday.

V7.5.24

[GMPX]

Ok thanks Les, I'll check that out now. Very odd as that OS has been in the software for a fair while now, since 2016 in fact.

[Orange Stroker]

So not meaning to derail this subject but to what extent are these trucks very picky? Within the last 2 days I flashed a 32150102 os Pickup Aisin truck with a C&C 31150102 & 51150102 os with no issues. Are these CM2350 ecms that much different from the early cm2100 ecm where you could flash 0809 and 1035/1031 into pretty much any ecm and it was totally happy? This is the first truck I have tuned myself via EFI Live but I have tune 60+ of these trucks with Smarty UDC Pro and similar. I guess what I'm asking is what issues would I be running into if I set up 3 base files (Pickup 68rfe,Pickup manual/aisin, and c&c) for 10-12 and for 13+ trucks?

[2007 5.9]

For delete based yes, I use one OS for all 13-17 68RFE, one for G56 and one for Aisin.

It's when you do emissions equipped tuning that you have to choose the right OS/Cal ID to keep things happy

[Orange Stroker]

Ok perfect. Now would the G56 and Aisin not work on the same os? I figured the ECM would see them both as separate entities if that makes any sense. Am I incorrect in that thought processes?

[2007 5.9]

It's my understanding that no your idea wouldn't work, simply because the Aisin controller calls for a torque reduction for shifts, a G56 would not.

I could be wrong but that's the best thought I have

[GMPX]

Les back to your issue, how much of a rush are you in to get that converted OS loading up? I have fixed the problem but rather than send you some individual files I suspect we may do another update next week.

[2007 5.9]

Les back to your issue, how much of a rush are you in to get that converted OS loading up? I have fixed the problem but rather than send you some individual files I suspect we may do another update next week.

Next week is just fine. I'm working on single tune files right now, to get everything happy. Then I'll update to csp when you have it ready.

So yeah next week is not a problem

Thanks for looking into that

[GMPX]

Hi Les, sorry I am getting a bit lost on the topic because this is spread over two threads. I thought you were waiting on a 2018 OS update, not 2014, apologies for that.

[2007 5.9]

Yeah my bad sorry for that Ross...I'm waiting on the updated Aisin 2014 S87 recall update. The ones I have don't work.

[cindy@efilive]

Hi Les,

You found a bug in the September public release, where as your screen shots show there is an error in converting 32130902 to CSP. This is now fixed.

I'll email you the required file to change in your current install to get you up and running. Sorry about the delay.

Cheers
Cindy

Cheers
Cindy

[2007 5.9]

Beautiful, thank you Cindy

[cindy@efilive]

Beautiful, thank you Cindy

Email sent! Good luck.
Cheers
Cindy

[2007 5.9]

Ross,

Is there a plan to update the following OS/Cal ID for CSP conversion?

I am running the file Cindy sent me and I'm having injector codes along with Timing codes, research shows that Chrysler made a TSB flash in late 2016 early 2017 to fix this issue. I'm wondering if the OS I am currently running is prior to this TSB flash.

I ran my factory calibration, edited for power without issue or codes, as soon as I switched to the older calibration and csp, I'm getting these codes.

So that's why I'm asking about the most recent revision getting csp upgrade status.

32131000
32381032SC

[GMPX]

Hi Les, if they did have to release the update because of issues like that then yes I'll have to do the latest release. I know who to ask to test it at least :hihi:

[2007 5.9]

Yeah no problem here, I'm testing today with my factory stock file, edited the same as the csp tune to verify it's a OS issue and not my fault.

It would throw a light after two drive cycles, so I'll know more tomorrow or Wednesday.

[GMPX]

Unfortunately I don't think FCA lists the reasons why they update like GM's CalID website.

[BlackCPG]

I have had similar issues with a MY16 OS. Started with a 32.16.04.00 and the truck ran good, shifted well and no codes. Switched to 52.16.02.02 for CSP support and the truck threw a few codes here and there, had some funky shifts, and some random engine rattle. Switched back to 32.16.04.00 and truck is back to normal. I believe the TSB is 18-015-17 Rev B. It addresses a range of issues across the engine and trans.

[2007 5.9]

I have had similar issues with a MY16 OS. Started with a 32.16.04.00 and the truck ran good, shifted well and no codes. Switched to 52.16.02.02 for CSP support and the truck threw a few codes here and there, had some funky shifts, and some random engine rattle. Switched back to 32.16.04.00 and truck is back to normal. I believe the TSB is 18-015-17 Rev B. It addresses a range of issues across the engine and trans.

Yep that sounds like the TSB
I get injector performance and injection timing performance codes.

Back to my modified stock file non-csp and no codes

[GMPX]

Did the trucks have those odd issues even on the stock OS when updating?

[2007 5.9]

Did the trucks have those odd issues even on the stock OS when updating?

I bought my truck with the most recent version, so I cannot confirm that it did or didn't have issues before.

I can say that using that calibration and modifying it I have not have any codes or issues.

It wasn't until I tried the file Cindy sent me, did I have any codes or issues.

The csp file and the stock file are just about identical.

[GMPX]

Mmm, I'm not sure where to head with this. I am concerned that converting that new OS to CSP is the cause of the problems you found, but then the other user found a similar issue with a 2016 OS.
That TSB indicates there was some pretty serious issues they needed to address.
https://chrysler.oemdtc.com/TSB/18-015-18.pdf

[2007 5.9]

I think that any new calibration after this TSB will work fine when updated, I think the problem lies with trucks running this newest update, then having to revert to a older calibration that is csp compatible, and then the ecm has a mental meltdown, and it may be tied to the fact that the tipm and other modules are updated during a dealer flash and not changed when a tune file is put in.

[GMPX]

Good point on a multiple module update causing the issue, that could very well be what it is.

[Mitco39]

I have a customer looking to tune his DO90019 (32370531XX) with the S87 upgrade. My issue is I cannot find a file that supports the CSP upgrade with this calibration. I am almost positive I looked through all of them and none of them had the option (that had the S87 upgrade). Any suggestions on what file I should use in this case?

Thanks!

[GMPX]

My intention early this year is to update all the 13+ CSP OS's to the latest available to cover off these trucks, unfortunately for the 2015 vehicle you have 32370531CG was the last one we did, you need the 32370531Sx releases which haven't been done.

[Mitco39]

For anyone looking for a S87 CSP capable OS here you go. I went and tweaked the non S87 CSP supported OS so that my customer could run multiple tunes on his truck while we wait for a S87 Native OS to have CSP support.

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