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ToonerSQUAD89
December 29th, 2018, 09:59 AM
I just got EFI live and want to tune my 2010 L99 Camaro Automatic. Right now im not worried about the 6L80E. I have a few engine mods. I have a American Racing Headers 1-7/8 Long Tubes with Full exhaust and muffler delete, A K&N Air Intake Kit. I just installed an Innovative LC-2 Wideband and have it also hooked up to a serial port for Scan Tune V7.5 for EFiLive.

I Printed out the Swingtans VVE Dial Guide for E38 ECU, I set the engine in open loop, and confirmed it is.

What are the next steps into tuning this? I seen and heard about a BEN factor but not sure what it involves.
in that manual it says too unhook the yellow wire in the MAF sensor harness....Do I do this too? The guide shows its for an L76 not an L99.

joecar
December 29th, 2018, 04:36 PM
MAF: unpinning the MAF signal wire ensures the ECM fails the MAF which then failsafes to VE/SD...

you will be correcting tne VVE surface in OL and SD.

joecar
December 29th, 2018, 04:39 PM
You can connect your LC-2 to your FSV2 using a seial comms null modem (swaps Tx/Rx) cable...

then you can use the pid EXT.WO2AFR1 or EXT.WO2LAM1... just follow swingtan's tutorial.

You'll be correcting the VVE surface and regenetating the coefficients.

joecar
December 29th, 2018, 04:44 PM
After you're done with VVE/VE, you want to restore MAF function (pin the MAF signal back into the connector), and while still open loop you will want to check the MAF tables... they should be ok.

Note that K&N filters have been known to oil/foul the MAF sensor element... I prefer to use a paper filter (my preference is WIX).

ToonerSQUAD89
December 30th, 2018, 07:09 AM
You can connect your LC-2 to your FSV2 using a seial comms null modem (swaps Tx/Rx) cable...

then you can use the pid EXT.WO2AFR1 or EXT.WO2LAM1... just follow swingtan's tutorial.

You'll be correcting the VVE surface and regenetating the coefficients.


Ok, I have Everything Set, I am Reading my LC-2 on my FSv2 ScanTune Software. Its reading accurately.

Now My Main Question is the following. Tuning in SD with the MAF Failed; How do I affectively change and re map the VVE IMTV Open/Closed Tables.

ToonerSQUAD89
December 30th, 2018, 07:16 AM
I see in ScanTune v7.5; there is a Map section, when I click on it I see a bunch of pre loaded Maps such as VE LC-1 and a good amount of other pre maps. I'm just lost on what to do here. I'm good on adjusting timing, torque control and other items but lost on this VVE table.

joecar
December 30th, 2018, 02:32 PM
Did you also download the VVE tutorial pdf...?

Let me take a closer look at which map you can use (when I get home tomorrow).

Or you can set up a map...
( create a new map with the ben pid as data and row/col matching the VVE table's axes ( copy the VVE table then do Paste Labels under each of Row and Col tabs ) )

a log populates the map with data (i.e. the ben pid values), click the n-bar button to see average data values in each cell of the map;

there is an E38 serial ben pid, this is the pid you specify on the map Data tab.

joecar
December 30th, 2018, 02:33 PM
( I'm currently away from home (in Palm Springs) and I don't have access to a PC )

ToonerSQUAD89
December 30th, 2018, 03:59 PM
Did you also download the VVE tutorial pdf...?

Let me take a closer look at which map you can use (when I get home tomorrow).

Or you can set up a map...
( create a new map with the ben pid as data and row/col matching the VVE table's axes ( copy the VVE table then do Paste Labels under each of Row and Col tabs ) )

a log populates the map with data (i.e. the ben pid values), click the n-bar button to see average data values in each cell of the map;

there is an E38 serial ben pid, this is the pid you specify on the map Data tab.

Ok let me know, I tried using a map that was Ben Main VE LC-1 and copied the numbers over to the IMTV OPEN/CLOSE TABLES but it didn't go to well. Had to revert that. I read Simons L76 guide but what it doesn’t go into in depth is to how to make a BEN map and how to apply it to a table step for step that’s where I’m lost. Thanks again

joecar
December 30th, 2018, 04:42 PM
Have a read of post#1 of this thread, it contains info on how to create and apply a map (look at how it applies the ben map to the MAF table... you want to do similar to your VVE table).

ToonerSQUAD89
March 1st, 2019, 09:42 AM
Ok I’m back. So I have a question. The VVE. I have all my pids correct. Still playing with it. When I go to copy my BEN map the #s look crazy. How long do I have to drive? My logs only record for about 15 mins before they get cut off. I’m still confused on apply the #s from the BEN map. I read swingtans guide but I wish it showed you the Ben map and copying it so I can see how it’s done.

ToonerSQUAD89
March 1st, 2019, 10:31 AM
22687

see if this looks right

ToonerSQUAD89
March 1st, 2019, 03:23 PM
Should I take a long drive, log the BEN map for my LC-2 Wideband and what do I do with those #s? It says in swingtans guide to copy + paste with labels and multiply but that makes the numbers huge, I think im missing something. I got the idea but something is not 100% on

joecar
March 9th, 2019, 11:03 AM
Ok I’m back. So I have a question. The VVE. I have all my pids correct. Still playing with it. When I go to copy my BEN map the #s look crazy. How long do I have to drive? My logs only record for about 15 mins before they get cut off. I’m still confused on apply the #s from the BEN map. I read swingtans guide but I wish it showed you the Ben map and copying it so I can see how it’s done.Post a screen shot.

joecar
March 9th, 2019, 11:12 AM
22687

see if this looks right

(you don't need the pid BEN_LS11_E38 )

post screenshots of your BEN map and your VVE table.

joecar
March 9th, 2019, 11:13 AM
Should I take a long drive, log the BEN map for my LC-2 Wideband and what do I do with those #s? It says in swingtans guide to copy + paste with labels and multiply but that makes the numbers huge, I think im missing something. I got the idea but something is not 100% onPost screenshots of your steps.

joecar
March 9th, 2019, 11:17 AM
Your wideband is trying to add about 20%... is your current tune that far off...? If it is, then add 15% and take another log ( generate surface, add 15%, generate coefficients ).

Need more details.


22700

ToonerSQUAD89
March 10th, 2019, 10:14 AM
Ok thanks! I know the tune is off alot from factory. I will this week and report back by mid week with screenshots. I will add and re log.

ToonerSQUAD89
March 10th, 2019, 10:20 AM
how did you get the map to display that how you re posted?

joecar
March 12th, 2019, 02:21 PM
Click the x-bar button ( x with bar over it).