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Beer99C5
July 13th, 2006, 06:26 PM
As a new Scan user, what are the best PID's to set up for logging 50-100 shot Dry Nitrous shots?


TP
ECT
RPM
FTC
HO2S11
HO2S21
SPARKADV
KR
IBPW1
IBPW2
INJDC1
INJDC2
IAT
MAP
LONGFT1
LONGFT2

Anything I am missing?

dc_justin
July 13th, 2006, 06:56 PM
Assuming you'll be using this shot at 100% throttle, the PIDs: FTC, LTFT1 & 2 are just wasting channels. I'd log MAF and MAFFREQ to know how close you are to maxing it out.

Beer99C5
July 13th, 2006, 07:17 PM
Assuming you'll be using this shot at 100% throttle, the PIDs: FTC, LTFT1 & 2 are just wasting channels. I'd log MAF and MAFFREQ to know how close you are to maxing it out.

Thats what I am talking about...Thank You!

Yes 100% for activation above 3000 RPM.

What about Fuel Pressure that a PID for a 99 vette? If not, can a Elect Fuel Pressure gauge be added as an input like the LC-1?

Black02SS
July 13th, 2006, 07:37 PM
Thats what I am talking about...Thank You!

Yes 100% for activation above 3000 RPM.

What about Fuel Pressure that a PID for a 99 vette? If not, can a Elect Fuel Pressure gauge be added as an input like the LC-1?
There is no PID for that as you would have to purchase a FP gauge. All you need to know is the 0-5v output range and you can apply that to a custom PID in EFILive. There you can see exactly where your FP is at.

Beer99C5
July 13th, 2006, 07:48 PM
Thanks Black, I got just the place to do that on the fuel noid...The DynoTune Digital gauge says resolution to the nearest .1
Looks like I got one more item to get :)

At the T that is plugged...

http://www.retrorelics.net/jim/Boards/Corvette/FuelNoid.JPG

I am going to have to do another panel (full length for all the switches I got), to move put a gauge into the control panel like this...

http://www.retrorelics.net/jim/Boards/Corvette/Panels/GaugeThreeswitch.JPG

Beer99C5
July 22nd, 2006, 02:12 AM
OK here is what I am going with, noticed I had 25 channels so I am dropping the Battery Voltage to get the recommended 24 Channels of data.

http://www.retrorelics.net/jim/Boards/EFILive/PIDSelectedB99.jpg

Any other suggestions?

dc_justin
July 22nd, 2006, 05:29 AM
Yes, for tuning purposes, EOT and TFT are not entirely important. I would drop them as well in favor of DYNCYLAIR_DMA or CYLAIR_DMA. Located in the "Tune" section. :)

redhardsupra
July 22nd, 2006, 06:06 AM
dynamic airflow and dynamic cylinder air. these two are the best performance monitoring PIDs, you'll see how much air and compression you actually get out of tuning, spray, or whatever other mods you're making.

Beer99C5
July 22nd, 2006, 06:37 AM
Great thanks! Just finished the LC1 install, going to test it, then wire it for EFI Live...Got my C panel done to reflect all the PIDs above, with the exceptions of the changes you guys just gave me.

:cheers:

minytrker
July 22nd, 2006, 10:45 AM
I was told to have as few pids as possible to get better data for the pids you have selected. I still have have almost 20 if i remember right. Also if you have a lot selected then you can do black box logging.

Beer99C5
July 23rd, 2006, 04:30 AM
OK with the exception of the LC1 working right and waiting on the Fuel Pressure sending unit...I am up and running. :)

So The Wideband and Fuel Pressure are in alarm for obvious reasons in these screens :bawl:

Here is a 50 shot dry screen

http://www.retrorelics.net/jim/Boards/EFILive/DRYSHOT.jpg

What I found interesting was the IAT only dropped 10°F with the 50 shot (was 73° before the run at highway speed). Also the 50 shot Dry was 11% more on the duty cycle...guessing I am going to top out at 80-90 shot Dry before I run out of injector?


Here is a 125 wet screen

http://www.retrorelics.net/jim/Boards/EFILive/WETSHOT.jpg

Beer99C5
July 23rd, 2006, 04:34 AM
Here is what I am using for PIDs, from the input here.

http://www.retrorelics.net/jim/Boards/EFILive/pidsUSED.jpg

redhardsupra
July 23rd, 2006, 05:24 AM
oy, of all things to have working BEFORE you start spraying....

something's off, on bigger spray you're losing torque, that ain't right.
send me the logs, maybe i'll figure it out

Beer99C5
July 23rd, 2006, 06:08 AM
This setup was tested on a wideband at the dyno last month, so I did not spray higher than we have already proven was safe...I do want to up the dry though once I get the Wideband running...

OK being new...to share the logs I Believe I need to Zip up the dash, PID and log files?

redhardsupra
July 23rd, 2006, 06:11 AM
log and tune, brief description of the whole setup, all zipped up would be nice for organization. talk to me on yahoo or icq

Beer99C5
July 23rd, 2006, 06:28 AM
http://www.retrorelics.net/jim/Boards/EFILive/NitrousC-5.zip

As a bonus there is the log with the Wide band working then crapping out.