My c&c is gutless????

[zippsub9]

Any help is appreciated. I've used HPT before, but nothing else. I'm not a fanboy but just have no experience with EFILive. I am all about learning something new and not asking for anything free. I just need to get my C&C up to the level of stock Ram 3500s at least. I'm not a straight line racer, just towing a heavy gooseneck with it. I can't PM anybody yet.

[MrGrunzz]

Hey there! Well you need to have at least 10 post on the forum to activate tour private messages. Feel free to rely here on the thread if you need any assistance. What is it that you need exactly? I'm able to assist you in case you bricked the ecm with hpt.

[zippsub9]

Hey there! Well you need to have at least 10 post on the forum to activate tour private messages. Feel free to rely here on the thread if you need any assistance. What is it that you need exactly? I'm able to assist you in case you bricked the ecm with hpt.

I am trying to get some help tuning my factory detuned gutless 2010 G56 C&C. I don’t want to touch it with my MPVI3. I haven’t plugged it into anything. I’m not asking for free help, just recommendations. Any feedback on Same Day Tuning?? w/EFI Live.

[MrGrunzz]

Well if you got your truck on a diet already, I'm not sure they provide the tune for that. SDT provides performance tunes. If you dont have EFIlive hardware yet, you will spend quite some money before you can fix your gutted truck. If you have the hpt device, i can help you with that if you're interested. Efilive has better compatibility and support for these modules, and in a long term, is safer to use, but hpt if setup right is also capable of tuning your vehicle. This is a prefference matter. I like working cummins with Efilive and have also Fixed trucks with it.

[zippsub9]

Perhaps this is an unfair question, but what assurance or confidence do you have that you can help me via HPT? I think it is only $100 in credits but not sure it offers all the parameters needed. $1730 for SDT including license, flash device and external knob to switch between 5 different tunes.

I am totally open to other options. I have a G56 so not worried too much about trans other than perhaps rev hang. However, I can do without the switch on the fly but thought it would be nice to switch based upon trailer load or bobtailing.

[MrGrunzz]

The main difference, from my point of view, is that if you decide either to go with an individual like me or anyother, you'll have a fully customized tune for your truck, not a prebuilt one. You know, you can get pretty much any file from whatever company/file service, but those are made generic, so it can fit any truck with the same OS. I consider your question not unfare but clever, as one will want the best for his own truck/car. Hiring a tuner vs hiring a file based company is a different thing. Also, I'm sure EFI has the switch for your model year available, Hpt doesn't so you will be "locked" with one tune. If you had EFI live hardware, a switch for your truck model is around $90usd, you can get that from pretty much every online store nowadays. A tuner can set you up with Either EFI and the CSP5 with your requested or needed tunes like Fuel economy, Heavy hauling, etc etc etc. HPT will get you locked to one tune on your truck since the switch is not available on their software and that would be a customized tune like a Balance with good Power and also Better fuel economy or Max fuel economy or Highest Power and Performance. Since you have a manual tranny you can request for hp without compromising it like an automatic tranny.

[MrGrunzz]

Also, since you already have HPT hardware, you'll save yourself from buying yet another tool for the same purpose which is reprogramming your truck. Hpt will cost i think $100 usd for license, and then you have more room to hire a tuner and pay for a good tune + emissions delete. Buying in this case from SDT, you'll spend $1.7k usd for 1 truck only and one provider with x amount of prebuilt tunes. You get to keep the hardware, but you'll be tied to them as your only file provider and only to the tunes they provide, whereas if you purchase/hire a tuner you can keep tweaking your file if need if you add lets say a custom intake/exhaust system, bigger injectors, a bigger turbo and that will be 100% customized for your truck, not prebuilt. Same story applies with EFI live.

[Lennydmaxguy]

I'm not much help here, but I just a warning. DO NOT attempt to read the ECM with HPTuners. It will brick.

[MrGrunzz]

It's well know that Hpt bricks these controllers. However, I've recently done a CM2200 with that hardware without any problem using Hpt. Just did it this past thursday using the latest software and firmware available.

[zippsub9]

It's well know that Hpt bricks these controllers. However, I've recently done a CM2200 with that hardware without any problem using Hpt. Just did it this past thursday using the latest software and firmware available.

My C&C is a 2010 but everything on it is 3rd GEN. I will get pics of the ECM to confirm exactly which one it is. It seems the C&Cs were a year behind the other models in the switch from 3rd to 4th GEN.

[MrGrunzz]

Well, most likely you ECM is a CM2200 because of the model year, but according to what you said, it might be a 2009.5 configuration and have a CM2100 on it. A picture from the ECM and the information that is on the sticky will allow us to confirm this.

[zippsub9]

I will get pictures tomorrow for confirmation. I am also looking to source an EFI Live tuner off marketplace. I just want to make sure they aren’t locked to a tuner. I have no problem buying a VIN license but don’t want to buy a used paperweight.

[zippsub9]

Couldn’t upload the picture as a JPEG

CM2100A
E/C S90218.05

[MrGrunzz]

Well it definitetly is a Gen 3. Cm2100 is the correct ecu for 6.7l cummins on dodge ram 3rd generation. These are supported by either EFI or Hpt. Both on the latest hardware, firmware and software version. So it'll be a matter of choosing what do you want to work it with. As stated before, any file ready service/company will provide you with an Autocal from Efi or an Rtd from Hpt locked to their own tuning network so you'll be stuck with the files they provide. There are different companies that offer this service, but not that many that will offer an emissions off + personalized tuning since the EPA regulations are stricking hard in the USA. Whichever hardware you choose, if you are planning on buy Efi hardware, it will take 650 usd for the Flashscan (you dont want an autocal or else you will have to link it to someone), 450 usd for a tuning license for cummins, and 125 for a vin license for your truck, $1225 in total, plus you have to pay someone for a Tune and $90ish usd for a switch if you want csp5 tune, prices will vary for that. If you already have HPT Mpvi3 hardware, then it'll be $100usd for 2 credits and you're almost done, you'll just need your 1 tune with or without emissions off.

[zippsub9]

Well it definitetly is a Gen 3. Cm2100 is the correct ecu for 6.7l cummins on dodge ram 3rd generation. These are supported by either EFI or Hpt. Both on the latest hardware, firmware and software version. So it'll be a matter of choosing what do you want to work it with. As stated before, any file ready service/company will provide you with an Autocal from Efi or an Rtd from Hpt locked to their own tuning network so you'll be stuck with the files they provide. There are different companies that offer this service, but not that many that will offer an emissions off + personalized tuning since the EPA regulations are stricking hard in the USA. Whichever hardware you choose, if you are planning on buy Efi hardware, it will take 650 usd for the Flashscan (you dont want an autocal or else you will have to link it to someone), 450 usd for a tuning license for cummins, and 125 for a vin license for your truck, $1225 in total, plus you have to pay someone for a Tune and $90ish usd for a switch if you want csp5 tune, prices will vary for that. If you already have HPT Mpvi3 hardware, then it'll be $100usd for 2 credits and you're almost done, you'll just need your 1 tune with or without emissions off.

I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to spell all that out for me. I can appreciate that perhaps EZ Lynk or EFI are probably more user friendly and stable platforms for my truck. However, simply based on the hardware that I already own I would like to take advantage of my MPVI3. I know that I can’t read a file for my truck. However, I appreciate any recommendations for someone who can write a file for HPT. Looks like I am at Post 8, so not quite able to DM but I will as soon as I get enough posts. Again, many thanks.

[MrGrunzz]

No worries, happy to help!
I can get you setup with your tune. We offer services for any cummins related truck either Heavy Dutty or Medium dutty like your truck. Also we do equipment and stationary power gens. 2 more posts to go and we can get in contact via PM. So go ahead if you got any questions I'm able to assist with any here on the thread until your get your Pms unlocked