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nitrorocket
August 25th, 2006, 03:39 AM
Could a table be added based on TPS to muliply the main VE table a certain percent and then taper off in a set time frame to build boost.

I would like to be able to multiply the entire main VE table only by lets say 20% for about .75 second or so under 100% throttle.

Turbos LOVE fuel and will spool a ton faster with more fuel. It would almost act as an accelerator pump shot of additional fuel jsut for the instant you nail it to the floor.

EFILIVE, this would work great... what do you think?? I need more power!!;)

I have a few more tiny ideas on how to make turbos cars faster and more driveable if you'd be willing to update.

I can be the turbo tuner test mule!!!

nitrorocket
August 25th, 2006, 06:50 AM
No body likes my idea???:bawl:

TAQuickness
August 25th, 2006, 07:29 AM
Sounds cool.

nitrorocket
August 26th, 2006, 02:41 AM
Can EFILIVE make this happen??:roll:

Trippin
August 26th, 2006, 02:48 AM
Turbos LOVE fuel and will spool a ton faster with more fuel. It would almost act as an accelerator pump shot of additional fuel jsut for the instant you nail it to the floor.



I like this guy. He thinks like a Diesel freak. :D

Garry
August 26th, 2006, 02:54 AM
Sounds like a mod for a Custom OS ...

Tre-Cool
August 27th, 2006, 11:33 PM
mate, any chance you can explain how having more fuel makes the turbo spool quicker?. I would have though the less fuel the more hotter the exhaust would be, therefore quicker spooling.

Cheers

nitrorocket
August 28th, 2006, 01:48 AM
The increased fuel adds more exhaust velocity, helps get the turbos going! Do you have a turbo car? If so, increase the ve map by 15% and mash the pedal, you should notice the boost come on much harder. Really makes a difference on my car.
The reason I would like this feature is so for normal driving I can keep fuel economy, but in an instance where I want power very quickly and mash the pedal, the boost will come on quicker and stronger at 100% throttle.:D

Draco
August 28th, 2006, 07:36 AM
I requested this feature as well a couple of months ago... although for different reasons. I need it to combat a momentary lean condition while waiting for my methanol injection to build sufficient pressure at tip-in.

Hopefully they will add this at some point!

joecar
August 28th, 2006, 08:02 AM
I'm going to merge this into the same thread in the Forced Induction section. :)

Edit: and I deleted a couple of replies referring to the "other" identical thread (now merged into here).

Tre-Cool
August 29th, 2006, 01:05 PM
The increased fuel adds more exhaust velocity, helps get the turbos going! Do you have a turbo car? If so, increase the ve map by 15% and mash the pedal, you should notice the boost come on much harder. Really makes a difference on my car.
The reason I would like this feature is so for normal driving I can keep fuel economy, but in an instance where I want power very quickly and mash the pedal, the boost will come on quicker and stronger at 100% throttle.:D
righto, thanks for that. once i get my fuel effiecent tune done, i will give it a shot and test the difference.

p.s yes i have a turbo. garret t51r

jsttry
August 29th, 2006, 10:13 PM
What kind of AFR should you be aiming at lower in the rev range to build boost like this?

My B3618 is set at:

12.002932
12.002932
12.002932
12.002932
12.002932
11.888618
11.767210
11.721173
11.702858
11.721173
11.804302
11.804302
11.804302
11.804302
11.804302
11.804302
11.804302
11.804302
11.804302

Richens up slightly at 3200 when its coming into boost to minimise KR at the transition to boost.

VYSSLS1
August 30th, 2006, 02:35 AM
what rpm are u looking for nitrorocket, of the line or up to 3000rpm etc, when is your car coming onto boost.

nitrorocket
August 30th, 2006, 03:05 AM
I am looking for all rpms. Whatever ropm I am at wither cruising or idling, I want it to go rich at 100% throttle. I want full driveability except for when I mash it to the floor, it needs to go rich for an instant to hekp the spool. Boost comes on at 2500 rpm from idle. I reach 230 kpa by about 4500 or so.

VYSSLS1
August 30th, 2006, 03:10 AM
I am looking for all rpms. Whatever ropm I am at wither cruising or idling, I want it to go rich at 100% throttle. I want full driveability except for when I mash it to the floor, it needs to go rich for an instant to hekp the spool. Boost comes on at 2500 rpm from idle. I reach 230 kpa by about 4500 or so.


are u using PE mode already

nitrorocket
August 30th, 2006, 03:20 AM
No.

VYSSLS1
August 30th, 2006, 03:31 AM
at this stage the only way u could do it is with PE mode and control an area, but its not really what u want. u are after more of a accelerator pump.

what would be ideal in this situation is to use hot pe mode, but once again its engaged all the way, but it does turn of point, i wonder if the big guns could use this to turn on and off at different load points eg 70kpa and 105kpa under full throttle. using this would be perfect.

MN C5
September 2nd, 2006, 08:27 AM
All you have to do is trick the IAT sensor and you'll be able to do what your asking. It works really well when you combine A0014 with B5911:bash: you can make things red hot in a hurry.

Dennis