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TAQuickness
April 30th, 2005, 08:12 AM
What would it take to expand the realm of tuning out side of the LS1/GM products line?

Reason I ask, I've recently aquired an '03 Dodge Dakota and I'm all ready getting the bug to swap cams, bore, stoke, etc... But there seems to be a lack of tuning software readily available to re-calibrate the PCM.

Back to the "what would it take?", I for one would plop the money down for it today. But how many other takers would you need to make the R&D investment worth your while?

GMPX
May 3rd, 2005, 02:10 AM
What would it take to expand the realm of tuning out side of the LS1/GM products line?

A few days in the R&D labs at FORD, Chrysler etc :lol:

The big issue comes down to each manufacturer of PCM's do things VERY differently.

GM use Delco/Delphi
FORD use Visteon
Chrysler use Motorola from memory.

I know FORD/Visteon make things pretty difficult to reverse engineer. Same for Chrysler.
Some of the inport stuff is just impossible (Toyota/Denso being one of them).

For us we have been around Delco/Delphi PCM's for sometime so we are 'comfortable' with them and it still takes us 12hr working days to bring you guys the product we now have.
It would be near impossible for us to start from scratch on a new manufacturers PCM unless somebody came on board with prior knowledge, but that is unlikley to happen.

Sorry!!.

Cheers,
Ross

SSbaby
May 3rd, 2005, 02:34 AM
Or another solution would be to trade the Dakota for a Tahoe... :mrgreen:

OUCH! Sorry, I couldn't resist. :lol:

joecar
May 3rd, 2005, 08:44 AM
Or drop in a crate LS1 or LS6.
:D 8)

TAQuickness
May 3rd, 2005, 11:52 AM
SSBaby - Ironicly, I have a few parts from an '02 Tahoe in my TA.....

Joecar has the right idea.

If the GM truck line was astheticly pleasing to me as Daimler's, I'd be all over it.

Ross - What's the best way to get hold of you? I'd like to look into this a little more. From the Mopar forums I visit, I think there is a substantial market out there for this kind of product.

TAQuickness
October 25th, 2005, 12:57 AM
Thought I dig this one back up...

If you guys haven't 100% ruled out additional support, I would like to contribute to expanding the line anyway I can.

emarkay
January 3rd, 2006, 03:49 PM
Funny, I was just wondering the same thing... ;)

madprof01
January 4th, 2006, 02:41 AM
The Chrysler demand is huge in Colorado with the relaese of the charger and the Magnum. Not to mention the truck people. a useable platform would be gold mine for us. As far as Ford (blue oval smurf turd) ScT has a decient system for what I've seen of it. Most Nutstang owners are CHeap and want upgrades for free! It's a wonderful thought but sounds expensive and complicated.
Eric

DaleMX
January 4th, 2006, 06:59 AM
If all the sensors were the same or close then maybe you could use an LS1 computer in a Dodge or Toyota.

MN C5
January 4th, 2006, 07:44 AM
IMHO, stick to what you know best and try and keep up to the new systems GM throughs at us.
:exactly:

emarkay
January 4th, 2006, 11:46 AM
I was thinking along the lines of JUST the EPA mandated data - basically just a "code clearer", for simplicity. It's just that the communication protocols that are differnt, but the programming once you get the bits and bytes in line should be similar, correct?

MN C5
January 4th, 2006, 01:06 PM
This site is offering tunes for the 06 Trailblazer SS. The guy goes by GTPprix on Trailvoy. Is this guy another bloody Islander? Must be something in the water down there. I've had trouble just installing software, let alone hacking it...:notacrook:

http://www.whiteautoandmedia.com/Content/programming.aspx

GMPX
January 4th, 2006, 01:18 PM
but the programming once you get the bits and bytes in line should be similar, correct?

No, far from it.
Point rocket at moon, light fuse........it's the details in between that count ;)

Cheers,
Ross

P.S - Good to have you back.