Newbie

[Pn2r]

Hi guys, I was looking for a newbie section but wasn't able to find it.

anyway, i just got a hold of an ALDL cable (usb type) but can't seem to figure my way around checking for codes.:bash: and yeah am using offcourse efi

i have a 95 saturn, i got all the connections right but no matter where I go I can't seem to get any error readings.

any help for this confused newbie

thanks
Leo

[Pn2r]

anyone?....:help2:

[joecar]

Leo,

Welcome to the forum.

You have the AutoTap cable with USB...?
Which version of EFILive do you have (V4, V5, V6, V7)...?

Cheers
Joe

[Pn2r]

i have this...
http://aldlcable.com/bigphotos/8950.jpg
and i'm using v4 evaluation copy

whe i hit the green button on top i just see values after values...can't seem to get any codes out of it

thanks joe

[Blacky]

I presume you are using the LL0.xml data stream definition file.
I just checked that file and it looks like there is no DTC codes defined in it - yet. If you're interested in adding them in, I can send you the necessary information. Let me know.

Regards
Paul

[Pn2r]

I presume you are using the LL0.xml data stream definition file.
I just checked that file and it looks like there is no DTC codes defined in it - yet. If you're interested in adding them in, I can send you the necessary information. Let me know.

Regards
Paul


ye am using LLO...will it be complicated to add definitions on them?

where do i get the codes and definitions...if you can show me how...i think i can work on it...

[Blacky]

ye am using LLO...will it be complicated to add definitions on them?

where do i get the codes and definitions...if you can show me how...i think i can work on it...

Its not difficult just tedious. Its only case of typing in the details and matching the correct numbers to the trouble codes. Send me your email address (to paul@efilive.com) and I'll send you the data and instructions on what you need to do.

Regards
Paul

[Pn2r]

email sent...with thanks
Leo

[DND]

A newbe here to and I'm having problems getting the software to pickup the com port.

this is what I get

58:03.617: Initialising...
58:03.953: Opening COM1 8228,8,N,1
58:03.953: Can't open Com1. Access is denied.

58:03.997: Ready.

Any ideas ?

[Blacky]

It may be the modem in your laptop (or computer) is using COM1. Take a look in the hardware manager to see which COMprots are available.

To get to the hardware manager press the Windows key and while holding down the windows key, press and release the "pause/Break" key. Then select the Hardware tab page, then click on the [Device Manager] button. Loacte the entry: Ports (COM & LPT), expand it and see which COM ports are available.
(XP instructions - these may vary slightly for Win2K and Win98)

Then, back in EFILive try each of the COM ports in turn.

Note: EFILive V4 will not work with a USB-Serial com port adapter. You must use a real serial port or use a purpose build ALDL-USB cable.

Regards
Paul

[DND]

this is a pic of Device Manager I think its in the right port
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1124/usbportyu6.jpg

How do you get EFILive
I just tryed com2 and this is what its saying now
25:29.987: Initialising...
25:30.230: Opening COM2 8228,8,N,1
25:30.274: Ready.

This this what it should say ?

[Blacky]

Yes, that is what you should see.

Next, click on the Display ALDL chatter toolbar icon (or press the hoykey Ctrl+L). That should show you all the data thta is being sent fromt he vehicle.
Note: some vehicles do not send any chatter data, so you may not see anything.

Try loading up the correct vehicle definition file for your vehicle and then click on the green Start aldl toolbar button to see live data.

Regards
Paul

[DND]

No go on that port its the wrong one and when I put it to com1 it saying the com1 port is not config properly

OK I just install it on my decktop pc and put the cable in and its on com3 and efilive is picking it up so theres something not right on my lappy somewere

[DND]

ok I just changed it to com2 and its working I think I'll give it ago and post if its working :D

[DND]

ok its working now I don't know what I'm doing with it now :D

[cityhawk]

Hello, I'm not sure if this is the same issue, but I have a 1993 Saturn DOHC 1.9 (actually one of the defined vehicles in my EFILive V4 eval software). I am using the USB cable purchased from here: http://www.aldlcable.com/ on my Windows 7 Laptop.

The communication seems to be working fine.... the screen dumps the raw data in log mode, and the various built-in macros that come for my engine including things like turn on and off A/C, turn on and off SES light, etc work great. I just can't actually read any codes or values, nor can I see the dashboard. A youtube video shows the software being used for this purpose (see this link) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWLtdT8GXGc&feature=player_embedded), so I know it's possible. Any tips on how to configure the software to interpret the data?

[Blacky]

Make sure you've selected one of the three "Data Stream" macros. Then click on the green "Start ALDL" button.

Regards
Paul

[cityhawk]

Thanks, that was successful! A couple more questions though.....
1) the 2nd and 3rd Data Stream macros say they are "deleted" and thus do nothing. Is this normal?

2) when I go to the virtual dashboard, the only thing that seems to work is engine RPM (maybe the speedo works too, but the car was standing still, so I will assume that that works) and the TPS. The coolant temp reads zero in spite of there being an ALDL reading for the ECTS. So my questions are...

a) how do I add additional traces to the ALDL interface, assuming I know which data to map to which value, and
b) how do I map the ALDL values to the virtual dashboard?

[Blacky]

Thanks, that was successful! A couple more questions though.....
1) the 2nd and 3rd Data Stream macros say they are "deleted" and thus do nothing. Is this normal?

Not really normal, it looks like whoever created that data stream did not add the messages: msg1 and msg2.
You can remove those two macros (that attempt to use msg1 and msg2) if you like, see image below. Or you could locate the matching *.ald file and add the msg1 and msg2 data yourself.
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2) when I go to the virtual dashboard, the only thing that seems to work is engine RPM (maybe the speedo works too, but the car was standing still, so I will assume that that works) and the TPS. The coolant temp reads zero in spite of there being an ALDL reading for the ECTS. So my questions are...
If you're using the Eval version, there are limitations.
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a) how do I add additional traces to the ALDL interface, assuming I know which data to map to which value, and
Read up on the documentation on how to create your own data streams.


b) how do I map the ALDL values to the virtual dashboard?
Right click on the gauge and select a different caption.

Or the gauge number or chart number that an attribute is linked to can be changed in the attribute editor window.
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See the help document for info on what number is assigned to each gauge or chart. To see the help document, select the menu option: Help->[F1: Help], then navigate to: Reference->Requests->Attributes. About halfway down the page you will see the charts and dashboard numbering scheme.

Regards
Paul

[RPM7777]

I presume you are using the LL0.xml data stream definition file.
I just checked that file and it looks like there is no DTC codes defined in it - yet. If you're interested in adding them in, I can send you the necessary information. Let me know.

Regards
Paul

Hi Paul, This is a very old post but I have this same problem. I have a 1994 Saturn and am getting ready to use EFILive V4 with an ALDL USB to OBD1 cable, shown here: http://aldlcable.com/bigphotos/8947.jpg . I want to be able to read the DT codes but the macro is not setup for them, same as with the original poster's concern. How can I get the information that you offered to send to the OP? Thanks in advance!

RPM7777