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pkincy
April 9th, 2007, 09:08 AM
Folks,

Aargh, but I am frustrated. (Edit....was frustrated.)

Clearly EFILive is the most capable tuning software available but it is also the most complicated.

The challenges of working with EFILive are offset by its capability, however I am currently fighting something simple. The Save and Save As and Open functions are baffling me.

I have set up my A, B and C dashpages and my Dashboard for VETuning a bunch of times. Each time I will dutifully design (well with A I just pull in default Imperial and use it) a chart or dashpage and dutifully save it as VETuning A, VETuning B, or VETuning C as required.

Unfortunately each time I try and pull up what I thought was a saved page it is an old unfinished page I had done a week ago. Grrr.

Why won't the durned Save As function work??????

Edit: Well this dummy set aside another couple of hours to read pages 110 to 118 of the Scanner manual and figured out how best to set up the charts and with some of the suggestions below was able to save a heirarchy of charts, pages, and dashboards that actually will open back up.

Perry

dc_justin
April 9th, 2007, 09:56 AM
Hi Perry,

Are you saving the resultant Dashboard file after creating the set of dashboard pages? By this, I speak of the second set of new/open/save/save as buttons, immediately to the left of the filter button? If not, attempt to save that as whatever it is that you prefer, "VE tuning.vdb" for example.

Then, go to edit, then properties and the startup tab. Towards the bottom is the "Load Defaults" section. Check the "Always load dashboard file:" checkbox and select the file that you just saved.

Please give that a try and report back.

Justin

pkincy
April 9th, 2007, 10:05 AM
Thanks Justin,

I will follow your directions although I just rebuilt it for the 31st time and believe I did all that.

When you build the DashPage C....what are the VDCs you save? The 1 or 4 individual pages that make up a dashpage.

So am i getting this right. We got VDC (charts) that need to be saved; VDP (pages) that need to be saved; and VDBs (dash boards) that need saving. And the latter includes the former as a subset?

So if we work from the bottom up we save the VDC first, the VDP second and the VDB third.

I think that is what I was doing, although I couldn't get the Page C sized smoothly.

Another mystery to me is what controls the font size of the chart label. I think I know what controls the font size of the actual reported number. I don't have a clue what controls the font size of the numbers that periodically report the number of pieces of data being collected.

I will do some rereading of the manual and see Whaz Up!

Perry

Doc
April 9th, 2007, 01:08 PM
Whoa little doggie! First things first, once you get done with your masterpiece dashpage then I suggest you right click on the page and lock the dashboard. Then if you ever see the little disc save button get illuminated or if you start to close out the scanner and it asks you to save changes then, you need to stop, and cancel and look at what got "bumped, moved, whatever..." You just have to flow with it. What makes it such a cool tool is the infinite amount of customization you can do. Alas, if you don't save properly you will be runnning down the rabbit hole. Don't try to do so much everyday. Take it slower and reward yourself for accomplishing one thing at a time.

:cheers:

pkincy
April 9th, 2007, 02:16 PM
I suspect you are correct. The software does sometimes ask about saving and sometimes it doesn't. And the saving is not at all intuitive.

I love EFILive and its capability but do worry that we will shut out a large part of the tuning market by not keeping ease of use as high a priority as capability.

Perry

dc_justin
April 9th, 2007, 03:18 PM
Hey Perry,

I'd be glad to continue to provide support to you. As the software grows and the need grows, we will continue to adapt the training course to provide the best experience to users as possible.

:cheers:

Justin

pkincy
April 9th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Thanks again, Justin. With your help and some time with the manual I got through my frustration and have working Dashpages A B and C.

I also got my PIDS calculated for my Tech Edge Wideband and the wideband soldered to give me my proper Vout.

Heck, pretty quickly I am going to be caught up enough to take my RR out of the box and set it up.

Perry

pkincy
April 12th, 2007, 11:58 AM
The only thing worse than being frustrated by a really capable piece of software and having to learn everything that it can do is........

not being frustrated because the pcm and tuning and logging software don't do anything to have to learn!

I broke the pinion gear on the 98 so have it in the shop and have the 93 now. And there is just not a whole lot that you can do to it.

I already have done the VEtuning (it is already SD) some years ago and shoot ....the software and scanner simply don't do enough to keep you occupied over 5 minutes.

It is a whole lot more fun to have something that has some depth of character to it!!

Rock on,

Perry

Doc
April 12th, 2007, 05:13 PM
I suspect you are correct. The software does sometimes ask about saving and sometimes it doesn't. And the saving is not at all intuitive.

I love EFILive and its capability but do worry that we will shut out a large part of the tuning market by not keeping ease of use as high a priority as capability.

Perry

As Chad's sig says "Take the Blue Pill."

Blacky
April 13th, 2007, 10:20 AM
I fully agree that the dashpage save/open need a large overhaul and that is happening in V8 of the software.

Meanwhile you can read more about the inner workings of the dashboards in this tutorial:
http://download.efilive.com/tutorials/PDF/Dashboard%20Customization%20Tutorial.pdf

Regards
Paul