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woody69
May 18th, 2007, 03:11 AM
I have followed the righten and interactive to the best I can and when I paste and muptli with lables the b0101 goes flat at 500.00. On my loged bens I have some 600 and 500 from 1200 to 2800 RPM and at 20 t0 35 MAP.
Thanks Woody

Doc
May 19th, 2007, 01:35 AM
Sorry I don't follow your question. Could you elaborate?

joecar
May 19th, 2007, 04:53 AM
Post pics of your BEN map.

Chevy366
May 19th, 2007, 06:32 AM
I have followed the righten and interactive to the best I can and when I paste and muptli with lables the b0101 goes flat at 500.00. On my loged bens I have some 600 and 500 from 1200 to 2800 RPM and at 20 t0 35 MAP.
Thanks Woody
Your BIN factors probably don't match (kPA versus PSI, Imperial versus Metric ) .
I think there is a 3D presentation of how to do VE in the Download section of Main or Home page of EFILive .

joecar
May 19th, 2007, 06:41 AM
Good point. :cheers:

vatman02
May 19th, 2007, 07:01 AM
i had the same thing happen yesterday :bash: i forgot to change to average and pasted and multiplied the cell count

woody69
May 20th, 2007, 01:53 AM
when i clicked average it 0.00 everything out.:help2:

vatman02
May 20th, 2007, 03:01 AM
if it zeroed out then that means it didnt log any data make sure you have the correct pids selected if there is a line through any of the pids on your map screen then they have not been selected or as stated above make sure your pids match your MAP
Your BIN factors probably don't match (kPA versus PSI, Imperial versus Metric ) .
I think there is a 3D presentation of how to do VE in the Download section of Main or Home page of EFILive .
double check everything then do a new log the one you have is no good theres no data

woody69
May 21st, 2007, 02:24 AM
OK thanks for the help. Now when I clicked the averaged button my averages were around .70 now do I have to go through the auto VE process a few times or am I doing something else wrong. How should I drive when I am loging for this, normal or hard . Thanks. Woody

Chevy366
May 21st, 2007, 04:45 AM
Hard , normal , fast , slow , WOT second and third gear pulls , loading with the brakes (but be careful loading with the brakes , they can get hot) what ever it takes to hit as many cells as possible , the more the merrier .
You can't hit every cell in the VE table some are just way out of the rpm range and some are just above idle with some weird loads .

woody69
May 21st, 2007, 07:09 AM
So to my understanding I am trying to get as close to 1.0 as possible after I average it so should I load it in my tune and then reflash and start over with another drive and log or should I just keep logging until I get the 1.0 that I need.

vatman02
May 21st, 2007, 09:28 AM
yes. but it will vary from day to day so it will be alright if you have .99 or 1.01 just try to do all of your tuning on the same day or at least when the barometric pressure, temp, humidity are close to the same

hquick
May 21st, 2007, 10:29 PM
So far I've run about 100 logs Woody! I'm not there yet.:Eyecrazy:

vatman02
May 22nd, 2007, 09:31 AM
make sure you are using the "paste and multiply" function to copy your Ben factors to the main ve if you are then it sounds like there might be something else going on maybe a vacuum or exhaust leak i have been having trouble in low MAP areas for over a year and a
m in the process of putting the stock manifold and throttle body back on to see if it helps

it appears your are using the paste and multiply check for leaks it should only take two or three good logs to get a good ve tune make sure maf is disabled/unplugged DFCO disabled LTFT STFT diabled just go through the AUTO Ve tutorial again to make sure it is real easy to miss something

woody69
May 28th, 2007, 01:29 AM
I loged a lot of cells and then followed instructions and pasted and x but it is so lean ie will not run. What now

vatman02
May 28th, 2007, 02:35 AM
sounds like your WBo2 is not calibrated or you have an exhaust leak throwing off the readings i would revert back to a tune that ran well check for leaks make sure the WB is reading 20.9 in open air

5.7ute
May 28th, 2007, 06:58 PM
What filters are you using on the ben maps? While you want high cell counts it all needs to be good solid information averaged throughout the cell with minimal transients.

woody69
June 1st, 2007, 04:57 AM
NOW WHAT. I can view data and my lc-1 showes 10.00 or 19.99 and a voltage of .9 or 4.2 no inbetween. I can pull the fuse on my ly-1 and put it back and it will read around 14.02 and voltagt arounf 2.2 and will vary with thw arf but when the led light goes out on the lc-1 ( the heater mode) it goes back to the 10 or 20 afr. Pulling what little hair I have left out. :mad:

5.7ute
June 1st, 2007, 10:44 AM
First thing I would be doing is going through all of the electrical connections. Something there obviously isnt right. It sounds to me like there is a wire in the wrong place or the sensor is u/s.

Chevy366
June 1st, 2007, 12:16 PM
NOW WHAT. I can view data and my lc-1 showes 10.00 or 19.99 and a voltage of .9 or 4.2 no inbetween. I can pull the fuse on my ly-1 and put it back and it will read around 14.02 and voltagt arounf 2.2 and will vary with thw arf but when the led light goes out on the lc-1 ( the heater mode) it goes back to the 10 or 20 afr. Pulling what little hair I have left out. :mad:
Sounds like you need to re-calibrate the Free Air Calibration on the LC-1 .

woody69
June 1st, 2007, 02:46 PM
I have recaliberated it twice .

Chevy366
June 1st, 2007, 03:22 PM
I have recaliberated it twice .
May have a bad LC-1 , contact Innovate and see what they say .
Mine at first gave me a code 8 (WB Sensor bad) , they replaced the LC-1 no problems after that .
If the brown and yellow wire ever touch when installed its all over .