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ringram
June 26th, 2007, 08:49 AM
Interesting results here http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2007/06/WidebandShootout/index.php

Tordne will be pleased his PLX has the lowest accuracy rating. While us guys with cheap LC-1's can take heart on our nice readings.
Innovate also recently upgraded all their units to prevent voltage related failures.
Black02SS
June 26th, 2007, 09:03 AM
Very interesting.
Doc
June 26th, 2007, 09:35 AM
Hmm....
Chevy366
June 26th, 2007, 09:50 AM
Good read !
Stelth
July 3rd, 2007, 04:12 AM
The response from PLX is also a good read

http://www.plxdevices.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1312
joecar
July 3rd, 2007, 05:13 AM
Stelth, welcome to the forum...:cheers:
joecar
July 3rd, 2007, 05:17 AM
I find it very hard to believe that the PLX was in error by that much... :?
Stelth
July 3rd, 2007, 05:19 AM
Stelth, welcome to the forum...:cheers:


Hey mate glad to be here. :wave:
Stelth
July 3rd, 2007, 05:22 AM
I find it very hard to believe that the PLX was in error by that much... :?

Yeh . . ther's no way .


Heaps of people are using them and have done in car comparisons and never been that much out.
Chevy366
July 3rd, 2007, 09:37 AM
The response from PLX is also a good read

http://www.plxdevices.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1312
God here I go getting in trouble again , making people dislike me , but there is no data in the PLX post to disprove the other report . Do you think Innovate paid the magazine to eschew the data ?
Just another objective view .
Delco
July 3rd, 2007, 10:46 AM
Interesting results here http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2007/06/WidebandShootout/index.php

Tordne will be pleased his PLX has the lowest accuracy rating. While us guys with cheap LC-1's can take heart on our nice readings.
Innovate also recently upgraded all their units to prevent voltage related failures.

The LC1 would be more accurate , they get returned to the factory for warranty repair every 4 weeks :)

I have a heap of PLX , a LC1 a motec and an autronic meter and I would say the PLX is the most consistant of the cheaper brands , at stoich all mine are out by 0.1 -0.2 AFR but everywhere else they are spot on to the autronic and motec meters.

When on the dyno I have a plx in the car 90% of the time and the autronic on the dyno and they always match.
Stelth
July 3rd, 2007, 01:26 PM
So i guess people should do their own tests and references to make sure they know if the WB is out and by how much.

cheers
mr.prick
July 3rd, 2007, 05:29 PM
PLX = POS :Throwup:
regarding the lc1 :
i think most people ground out the analog outs and thats what kills them.
they`re instructions aren`t the best either.
b18cls1
July 5th, 2007, 12:19 AM
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2007/06/WidebandShootout/images/lead.jpg



Anyone else think the placement is foolish on this?

I think there would be alot of turbulence created, throwing some sensor off.

Maybe not tho...any ideas?
joecar
July 5th, 2007, 02:21 AM
The thing to have done is to rotate the position of all sensors by 1, and repeat the test;
then repeat this rotation/test N times, where N is the number of sensors;
then compare the results for consistency.

In a "scientifically" conducted test, you're supposed to take a number of readings,
then swap positions and take more readings, and then plot the average with error bars... etc.
stigmundfreud
April 9th, 2010, 05:29 AM
holy thread ressurection but now I am getting back into looking to custom tune the ls3 I'm not installing the 2 lc-1s I have. Both were so unreliable it was untrue. When they worked they were very very accurate. But after the recal issues, the fact it would error 8 randomly I eventually settled with my tune and left it (checked on dyno).

LC-1 was as said accurate but too unreliable to reuse! Now looking at AEM for the next round of tuning.