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SV8346
February 1st, 2008, 10:55 AM
Ok, this is the first time i have needed to alter the IAC settings and i'm not sure whats what. I have put a larger billet throttle body on and now i have a few problems.

When i give it a rev in neutral(manual) revs rise very quickly now but then when returning to idle it drops way to low and struggles to recover itself.

When i go for a drive, if i come to a slow stop and put it into neutral at around 1500rpm the idle hangs at around 1200rpm and takes about 20 seconds to return to normal idle of 750rpm

Tordne
February 1st, 2008, 11:21 AM
Is the IAC steps the ONLY thing you changed?

That kind of sounds like Throttle Follow decay delay.

SV8346
February 1st, 2008, 11:25 AM
at this stage i havent changed anything in the program relating to idle or throttle follower, i have looked through all the setting but wasnt overly sure what each one does so thats when i thought i'de come and ask on here first.

Tordne
February 1st, 2008, 11:30 AM
What size TB did you fit, and what brand?

Is the IAC steps table still stock, or have you tried the GTS table?

SV8346
February 1st, 2008, 11:39 AM
its an 80mm throttle body from CRT performance, does the throttle body blade need to be set to a specific setting?

the only setting i have noticed that is different from the GTS settings is B4403, IAC Effective area. The GTS peaks at 140 steps where as mine is set to peak at 310 steps

Tordne
February 1st, 2008, 11:53 AM
Does the throttle blade have a small hole in the face?

If you use the GTS settings you'll find that the car will likely stumble and almost stall when coming to a stop. So, I'd probably leave the stock settings for IAC effective area alone. I have a 78mm and stock settings.

SV8346
February 1st, 2008, 12:04 PM
there is no hole in the face of the blade

Tordne
February 1st, 2008, 02:37 PM
Check out some of these threads:

- http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=7154
- http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=4237
- http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=4219
- http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=3568

There is heaps of info on all this stuff on this forum. Search for things like 'IAC Steps', 'Throttle Follower', Throttle Cracker' etc.

Cheers,

SV8346
February 1st, 2008, 04:25 PM
thanks mate, i have played around with the throttle stop point and doing TPS resets and now have the IAC steps floating around 38-39 during running temp idle. Idle also sounds allot quieter now, doesnt seem like its sucking as much air threw the IAC port. When i first check the IAC steps it was at around the 200 area so i opened up the throttle with the stop screw.

Is what i have done correct?

Tordne
February 1st, 2008, 04:29 PM
Pretty much spot on what mine is like - ~ 40 IAC steps at warm idle. The reason for having it something like that is that the IAC can react faster to changes. For example 40->60 IAC steps is an increase of 50%, whereas 200->220 IAC steps is only 10%.

The rest of your solution will be in doing the RAFIG process. If required after this you can look at Throttle Follower and Cracker settings to refine.

SV8346
February 1st, 2008, 04:31 PM
sorry Tordne not much up to date with all the lingo, Whats RAFIG? mean.

ScarabEpic22
February 1st, 2008, 04:57 PM
Im not either, but I think its Running Airflow In Gear and RAFIP is Running Airflow in Park... Dont have these for my truck, they're ETC.

Tordne
February 1st, 2008, 06:25 PM
RAFIG is a process for tuning the Desired Airflow table (B4307). This table will cause the car to hold a high idle or to stumble and almost stall.

Have a look at this thread: http://forum.efilive.com/showpost.php?p=45554&postcount=4

SV8346
February 1st, 2008, 07:54 PM
ok i have done the RAFIG and it came out that all squares were out by roughly -0.1. Is this good or bad?

Tordne
February 1st, 2008, 08:09 PM
It's good assuming the correct PIDs were used. You mind sending the log to support@efilive.com?

SV8346
February 1st, 2008, 08:55 PM
i havent got the log on this computer its on the laptop, the Pids i selected were, GM.IAC_LTD_DMA, GM.IAC_STD_DMA, CALC.RAFIG, GM.DYNAIR, SAE.ECT and all the other standard metric pids.