Can't RAFIG

[macca_779]

Ok this one has got me stumped. Tried to do a RAFIG the other day due to opening up my TB hole. Used my normal PID list for doing RAFIG, but no data was coming out. Tried it again a day later no good. Spoke to a mate and he hasn't seen the issue but he sent me his RAFIG PID list to try.. Same deal, no data.

I've attached a Log I just did using my mates PID list.
Any idea's guru's.. I've never had an issue doing the RAFIG process until this latest update for which I'm using now.

[joecar]

Macca, did you have the calc pid and it's underlying pids all selected...?

[macca_779]

Macca, did you have the calc pid and it's underlying pids all selected...?

Joe as can be seen in the log. They are all there.

[ntae]

In maps tab you have cell count's so its scaning , looking at your log under data tab the iac trims are 0 , so i say your tune does not trim the idle air TPS is .4


post up your tune file

[macca_779]

In maps tab you have cell count's so its scaning , looking at your log under data tab the iac trims are 0 , so i say your tune does not trim the idle air TPS is .4


post up your tune file

The tune is set to idle trim. It has not changed in that regard ever. The problem has only come about since going to this new update I rekon as I did a RAFIG only 2 months ago when I fitted my car.

[ntae]

The tune is set to idle trim. It has not changed in that regard ever. The problem has only come about since going to this new update I rekon as I did a RAFIG only 2 months ago when I fitted my car.


Sorry for suggesting some thing to try , was just trying to help you out

[macca_779]

Sorry for suggesting some thing to try , was just trying to help you out

I appreciate the suggestion.. Just letting you know thats not what it is.

[ntae]

you talk about running the latest update ,what number do you call the latest .

[macca_779]

7.5.3 Build 36.

On a side note you did get me thinking to compare my current tune to one I knew I could RAFIG. There are a couple of tables that have poped up that I have only started using in the last few weeks.. In theory they should be unrelated but I'll revert back and try again. If it fixes it I'll report back on exactly which table it is when I work it out.

[ntae]

I have 7.5.3 .36 running on one of my laptops & have done RAFIG

[macca_779]

Ok I just tried reverting back table values with no joy.. Then I reverted back to a whole tune from 2 months ago.. Still no joy.. So its not the tune. I have one last thought which I'll investigate now in it being the calc_pids file.

[macca_779]

nope not the calc_pids file.. I must be missing something here

[ntae]

i take it your running a V2.5 cable which will stop you running the older software you were using 2 months back

[macca_779]

i take it your running a V2.5 cable which will stop you running the older software you were using 2 months back

Nah I'm not using BBL/V2 2.5

[ntae]

the RAFIG map wont show data because there is no data under the data tab to show . i would think its in the tune file or you have it dialled in spot on & no trim are needed (never seen that) . if the file is not the problem i would change the air table in the tune so it starts to trim the air so you know the trims are working

[macca_779]

your right its impossible for idle trims to be zero (I'm not that good). I've been watching the Data Tab doing this not so much the MAP as I wanted to confirm it too. And like I said before, I just flashed in an old tune from when I first installed my cam and performed a RAFIG back then on that old tune and still no joy. Its something in the Scan Tool thats doing it.. I just havent worked out what.

O and I just changed my Desired Air table which fixed my original problem with why I was doing a RAFIG.. But its still not the point as I want to be able to do a RAFIG to dial it in properly not just guess.

[ntae]

in your log the start up trim are working they are dma pids and working ok so the idle dma pids should work as well
post up or email your tune file it must be in there

[ntae]

B0108 is 0 you have .4 tps

[macca_779]

Its always done the .4 thing when running but I changed B0108 to 1% and still no joy

[macca_779]

Any other ideas. Im 100% sure its not in the tune because like I said I tried it with an older file that I've performed a RAFIG on in the past and it just isn't working.

[ntae]

unload & reload old software if you are running a V1 or V2 cable

[macca_779]

unload & reload old software if you are running a V1 or V2 cable

Yeah that is my final option I guess. Not tonight though as I have to many cars to do this weekend to worry about setting up my settings again.

[joecar]

I couldn't view your log file yesterday (wrong PC)...

I see your VIN and OS are ok... did you reenter your PCM type...? before trying the older software, try validating pids and capture another log.

If that fails, and the older software works, then we'll get Paul into the loop.

[Thumper]

I did the rafig process the other day on my A4. I put it in gear and I got data. When I did the Rafpn, the data was all zero, and i was seeing data in rafig.
I have the correct PID's selected.
What is the difference between the rafig and rafpn pids? Can I use the data collected from rafig while in P/N?

[joecar]

RAFIG = in gear
RAFPN = in park/neutral

The load and rpm are different.

[Thumper]

Sorry maybe I didnt word it right.
Rafig works
Rafpn doesnt, I just see zero's in the log. Im using the P/N LT and ST trim pids and the Rafpn calc pid.
The Rafig log shows data for both in gear and P/N where as the Rafpn doesnt show data for anything

[Thumper]

Anyone know why this is?

[Thumper]

Sorry guys, another Noob question
When is the best time to do Rafig? Is it before you adust your VE table?
And how does the desired idle air affect the VE table?

[jfpilla]

Joe as can be seen in the log. They are all there.

After your answer to ntae I'm a little afraid to suggest this, but the log I'm looking at does not have RAFPN and associated pids selected.

[jfpilla]

picture.

[jfpilla]

Here's what to select.