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Highlander
March 17th, 2008, 02:36 PM
I made the cable to NOT need the converter.. The cost was around $8.00 to make. It already has pins 2,3 reversed and has the rj11 connector for flashscan v2.

Is anyone interested on it? it uses generic materials but I really think its worth it instead of the gender changer and all the cables. Its short about 6" to 1'.

What you guys think?

Goldfinger911
March 17th, 2008, 03:36 PM
Is the FlashScan end an RJ11 or RJ25? It is a 6-wire right?

Cougar281
March 17th, 2008, 03:52 PM
Yes, it has six pins.

Highlander
March 17th, 2008, 04:33 PM
yeap.. 6 pins and its rj11

Goldfinger911
March 17th, 2008, 05:01 PM
I am pretty sure you dont want to use just any "RJ11" cable, because while some do have 6 pins, only the center 4 are fitted... whereas an RJ25 (can be the same physical plug as an RJ11, 12 or 14) should have all 6 fitted. It looks like we do need the 6th pin too according to Ira.

Check this out: http://www.zytrax.com/tech/layer_1/cables/cables_jacks.htm

You said that pins 2 and 3 are swapped? I think you want to change that. Ira (EFILive dealer in CA) pin'ed out a stock EFILive RS232 cable for me in another post and he said the pins that are swapped look like this:

DB9 - RJ25
2 ----> 6
3 ----> 5
5 ----> 2


Edit:: Correction: That should say:
D9 RJ12
5--5
3--2
2--1

Blacky
March 17th, 2008, 05:18 PM
What about making a phono-jack to RJ12 cable that will connet directly from FlashScan to the LC1 serial jack. Shouldn't be too hard.

Regards
Paul

joecar
March 17th, 2008, 05:20 PM
What about making a phono-jack to RJ12 cable that will connet directly from FlashScan to the LC1 serial jack. Shouldn't be too hard.

Regards
PaulThat's perfect.

Chevy366
March 18th, 2008, 06:25 AM
Good one , I just happen to have another UPS (universal power supply , most came with a serial male/female) serial cable I can slap a RJ12 on .

Kevin Doe
March 19th, 2008, 03:31 AM
What about making a phono-jack to RJ12 cable that will connet directly from FlashScan to the LC1 serial jack. Shouldn't be too hard.

Regards
Paul

I have several network cables laying around my house. I also some phono jack cables from various things. Can you show us what pins on the RJ12 cable need to go to which part of the phono? I'd rather go this route than mess with gender adapters. A little soldering never hurt anyone.

Blacky
March 19th, 2008, 09:03 AM
I have several network cables laying around my house. I also some phono jack cables from various things. Can you show us what pins on the RJ12 cable need to go to which part of the phono? I'd rather go this route than mess with gender adapters. A little soldering never hurt anyone.
D9 RJ12
5--2
3--5
2--6

Correction: That should say:
D9 RJ12
5--5
3--2
2--1

RJ12 is numbered 6 on the left and 1 on the right when holding the plug with the gold pins facing you and facing upwards.

Correction: That should say: RJ12 is numbered 1 on the left and 6 on the right...

LC-1 phono jack, has ground at the base, pin 3 at the tip and pin 2 in the middle.

Remember to cross 2 and 3 so that you will end up with:
RJ12 pin 2 goes to phono base
RJ12 pin 5 goes to phono middle
RJ12 pin 6 goes to phono tip

Correction: That should say:
RJ12 pin 5 goes to phono base
RJ12 pin 2 goes to phono middle
RJ12 pin 1 goes to phono tip

Regards
Paul

Kevin Doe
March 19th, 2008, 09:04 AM
How is the D9 numbered?

Blacky
March 19th, 2008, 09:24 AM
How is the D9 numbered?

For wiring up a phono jack to the RJ12 plug it doesn't really matter, but this image shows the pin numbers on the plug:
http://forum.efilive.com/showpost.php?p=64424&postcount=8
The pins 6 to 9 that you can't see are numbered: 6 on the right to 9 on the left.

Kevin Doe
March 19th, 2008, 10:58 AM
For wiring up a phono jack to the RJ12 plug it doesn't really matter, but this image shows the pin numbers on the plug:
http://forum.efilive.com/showpost.php?p=64424&postcount=8
The pins 6 to 9 that you can't see are numbered: 6 on the right to 9 on the left.

Looks like you updated your original post with pin locations on the phono jack. Thanks!!

Blacky
March 19th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Looks like you updated your original post with pin locations on the phono jack. Thanks!!

Yes, I edited it within 30 seconds of posting it. However, the forum sends out the emails with the original text not the edited tetxt.

Regards
Paul

Kevin Doe
March 19th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Yes, I edited it within 30 seconds of posting it. However, the forum sends out the emails with the original text not the edited tetxt.

Regards
Paul

I read it right here on the forums. I must have caught it immediately after you posted it then. I'm like white lightning.

Highlander
March 19th, 2008, 11:53 AM
For wiring up a phono jack to the RJ12 plug it doesn't really matter, but this image shows the pin numbers on the plug:
http://forum.efilive.com/showpost.php?p=64424&postcount=8
The pins 6 to 9 that you can't see are numbered: 6 on the right to 9 on the left.
That is what i did with the efilive cable i made... it has the pins inverted already. so it should owrk like a charm.. hence the swapping 2-3.

Dopey
March 19th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but is the mono 3.5mm jack on the plx controllers a std serial stream? If so this would also apply to them if im not mistaken?

Kevin Doe
March 19th, 2008, 03:12 PM
D9 RJ12
5--2
3--5
2--6

RJ12 is numbered 6 on the left and 1 on the right when holding the plug with the gold pins facing you and facing upwards.

LC-1 phono jack, has ground at the base, pin 3 at the tip and pin 2 in the middle.

Remember to cross 2 and 3 so that you will end up with:

RJ12 pin 2 goes to phono base
RJ12 pin 5 goes to phono middle
RJ12 pin 6 goes to phono tip


Regards
Paul


This post is confusing to me. Your description of which pin numbers are which is right. But the part in bold isn't right. Given the pin numbering layout, you have it reversed. It should read.

RJ12 pin 5 to phono base.
RJ12 pin 2 to phono middle.
RJ12 pin 1 to phono tip.

I verified this buy lookin at the supplied RJ12 to RS232 end. Only RJ12 pins 1,2, and 5 are used. I think you just got the order mixed up.

Here is how I tested it out. I used the supplied cable from the EFI live, the supplied cable from the LC-1. Here was my logic.

RJ12 RS232 RS232 Phono
pin 1 pin 2 pin 2 middle
pin 2 pin 3 pin 3 tip
pin 5 pin 5 pin 5 base

Swap pins 2 and 3 between the RS232s and you end up with

RJ12 Phono
pin 1 tip
pin 2 middle
pin 5 base


Can you please confirm my suspicisous are right. I want to make sure I'm not overlooking something.

Blacky
March 19th, 2008, 04:04 PM
Can you please confirm my suspicisous are right. I want to make sure I'm not overlooking something.
You're right, I got the pins mixed up on the RJ12.
They are "officially" numbered 1 to 6 from left to right - when looking at the exposed pins in the plug and holding the plug pins facing up.

See image.

regards
Paul

Kevin Doe
March 19th, 2008, 04:09 PM
Ok, now its clear. I found a source that showed the opposite. Either way, I'll just make sure they're in the right location regardless of number. Fantastic illustration!

Blacky
March 19th, 2008, 04:26 PM
Ok, now its clear. I found a source that showed the opposite. Either way, I'll just make sure they're in the right location regardless of number. Fantastic illustration!

Ok so I did some more looking and there is some confusion about how to number those pins (most of the confusion is in my head).

Looks like I got it backwards and as Kevin said, the pins are numbered 1 to 6 from left to right.

I'll redo my post and images. That'll really confuse people when they read the thread in a few months time.:nixweiss:

Regards
Paul

Blacky
March 19th, 2008, 04:39 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but is the mono 3.5mm jack on the plx controllers a std serial stream? If so this would also apply to them if im not mistaken?

I don't know what the pins are on the PLX but the tip and the middle witll be either send or receive and the base will be ground.
However, it does not output a serial voltage level.

RS232 serial operates at +/- 12V. The PLX outputs a 5V signal. You need to run the signal through a voltage level shifter (sucah as a max232 chip) to correctly use it with FlashScan (or any true RS232 connection).

See here for an example:
http://www.plxdevices.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6481&start=0&sid=620ac151a2edec8fe30a9f48638bee53


Regards
Paul

joecar
March 19th, 2008, 04:56 PM
To avoid confusion I'll clean this thread in a few days.

Dopey
March 20th, 2008, 04:21 PM
I don't know what the pins are on the PLX but the tip and the middle witll be either send or receive and the base will be ground.
However, it does not output a serial voltage level.

RS232 serial operates at +/- 12V. The PLX outputs a 5V signal. You need to run the signal through a voltage level shifter (sucah as a max232 chip) to correctly use it with FlashScan (or any true RS232 connection).

See here for an example:
http://www.plxdevices.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6481&start=0&sid=620ac151a2edec8fe30a9f48638bee53


Regards
Paul

Thank you for the response, would this circuit induce much of a lag to the reading?

Also any chance of a schematic? :)

Cheers

Blacky
March 20th, 2008, 08:51 PM
Thank you for the response, would this circuit induce much of a lag to the reading?

Also any chance of a schematic? :)

Cheers

Zero lag.

There should be a gazzillion web pages showing how to use the MAX232 chip. Here's one:
http://sodoityourself.com/max232-serial-level-converter/

Disclaimer, I am not an electronics engineer so I have no idea if that circuit is appropriate for the PLX, but it looks similar to other max232 circuits I have used.

Regards
Paul

Highlander
March 21st, 2008, 06:32 AM
just a FYI. My cable Worked like a charm

hymey
March 21st, 2008, 01:00 PM
Paul. I am assuming I will be able to use my LM-1 Innovate as they have the same configuration as the LC1 and all I will need to do is make a cable?

JezzaB
March 21st, 2008, 03:26 PM
http://www.splitpixel.com.au/PLX-RS232-2.jpg

Mine works too!!!

Flicks between 14.70 and 14.74

Highlander
March 21st, 2008, 04:16 PM
Paul. I am assuming I will be able to use my LM-1 Innovate as they have the same configuration as the LC1 and all I will need to do is make a cable?
You do not need to make one. All you have to do is use the genderchanger with null modem capabilities...

Making the cable is optional and its for simplicity. I am using an LM1.

Thing is... sadly i have to use 2 cables :S the serial one from the lm1 and the one i made, i wish that the lm1 had the serial db9 connector.

hymey
March 21st, 2008, 08:58 PM
Thing is... sadly i have to use 2 cables :S the serial one from the lm1 and the one i made, i wish that the lm1 had the serial db9 connector.

I would Highlander but I don't have a DB9 cable in my efilive kit.:nixweiss:

Are you running from the serial port that we use with LM programmer on the PC? Or the analogue output on the bottom?

cheers

Highlander
March 22nd, 2008, 03:17 AM
Serial LM Programmer.. the round one... I will see if I can find that round part so that i can make it :)

hymey
March 22nd, 2008, 03:43 AM
It's a mini-din 8 connector. I will by one that goes straight from the WB to the scan tool. I take it your scan tool is displaying your afrs correctly and accurately.


What is your calibration in LM programmer 1.00V_10.00afr, 2.00V-20.00afr?

hymey
March 22nd, 2008, 03:53 AM
You're right, I got the pins mixed up on the RJ12.
They are "officially" numbered 1 to 6 from left to right - when looking at the exposed pins in the plug and holding the plug pins facing up.

See image.

regards
Paul

On the analogue jack for the LC1 wouldn't running both analogue 1 and 2 voltages be pointless. In the LM programmer the 1st output is for a narrow band and the second is for w/b display. Only one is required. That means only 2 wires are required the output wire and ground.

joecar
March 22nd, 2008, 09:13 AM
This serial connection is not reading the analog voltages, it's reading the digital AFR from the LC-1's serial port.

For asynchronous serial comms you need 3 wires: Tx, Rx, Gnd.

joecar
March 22nd, 2008, 09:18 AM
Edited my post.

hymey
March 22nd, 2008, 12:09 PM
Thanks Joe!

joecar
March 22nd, 2008, 12:43 PM
No worries. :cheers:

hymey
March 22nd, 2008, 02:11 PM
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/princy3010/cableV2.jpg

Pin 1.......TXD

Pin 2.......RXD

Pin 5.......Ground

JezzaB
March 22nd, 2008, 03:18 PM
Ive found the PLX just needs

Signal Ground
TX

Because there is no handshaking and it requires no data to be sent to it.

Blacky
March 22nd, 2008, 06:42 PM
Ive found the PLX just needs

Signal Ground
TX

Because there is no handshaking and it requires no data to be sent to it.

Makes sense. :)
Paul

hymey
March 22nd, 2008, 09:29 PM
It is unlikely any wb would require handshaking. It already has been configured correctly.

Thanks for the tip8-)

joecar
March 22nd, 2008, 10:00 PM
If you want to free-air calibrate the LC-1 (which is recommeded periodically) then you will need Tx.

ls197gmc
March 23rd, 2008, 03:20 PM
I upgrade my V2 firmware to 2.5.15, bootblock version is 2.5.04, bootblock version date is oct 16, 2007. Where do i go in the menu to see options/setup for the lc-1 setup? i can't find it. do i do somehting wrong?

Blacky
March 23rd, 2008, 04:03 PM
I upgrade my V2 firmware to 2.5.15, bootblock version is 2.5.04, bootblock version date is oct 16, 2007. Where do i go in the menu to see options/setup for the lc-1 setup? i can't find it. do i do somehting wrong?
Go to the Edit Settings menu on FlashScan:
F4: Options->F1: Settings->F1: Edit Settings.

Scroll down until you see the following three items and set them accordingly:
Com In Wide-O2
Com Out: Wide-O2
WO2 Type: LC-1

To use FlashScan to display the WO2 data, select:
F2: Scan Tool->F1: Data Logging->F3: Display WO2.

See the hotkeys document to see what special keys can be used to alter the WO2 display.

Passthrough is not working right now for serial wideband data so you can't log the serial wideband data to your PC yet. A fix will be posted shortly.

Regards
Paul

ls197gmc
March 23rd, 2008, 04:14 PM
i dont see those under settings: this is all i see:

file sys:
file #:
locale:
units: adfilter:
led mode:
s-trace:
lo power:
splash:
alert:
error:
ar delay:
ar speed:

any clues?

did i not upgrade the software correctly? not in the correct order?

Blacky
March 23rd, 2008, 06:00 PM
You're not running the latest firmware.

Upgrade your FlashScan's firmware using the file called: FSProgV2_05_15(0320).efw (the 0320 means the March 20 version).
You can find it in the folder: \Program Files\EFILive\V8\EFILivE_Hapi

You will need to use the EFILive_Explorer.exe program to reprogram the FlashScan device.

Regards
Paul

AGRO
March 23rd, 2008, 10:15 PM
with the tech edge, it already has a rj11 and rj45 plug/s. which one to use? pin 1,2,4 on the rj11 or pin 2,3,5 on the rj45? im a little confused.





Other RJ45 Outputs - SVout, NBsim, WBlin+, GND & Vbatt

http://wbo2.com/2c0/im/y1a-sch.gif http://wbo2.com/2a0/rj45out.jpg The SVout [pin 1], WBlin+ [pin 4] & NBsim [pin 6] signals are all described in detail above. The SVout signal is intended for analogue displays like the LD01 (http://wbo2.com/ld01/default.htm) and those displays will also use Vbatt & GND described below. The RJ45 connector signal names are shown at right.
A fused, protected and partially filtered battery voltage Vbatt is available from [pin 8] (right most RJ45 signal). This output is provided to power other devices such as the LD02 display (http://wbo2.com/ld02/default.htm). It should only be connected to devices that will draw small currents; typically less than 100 milliamps. Excessive current consumption may cause heating of an internal dropping/protection resistor.
A ground GND point [pin 5-RJ45] is provided as a return for the RS232 and Vbatt connections.
Note that there are number of unconnected outputs (N/C = No Connection) on each of the RJ-45 connectors. Those N/C's that have uses on other wideband units are shown "greyed in" and include WBlin (pin 4) and NBsim (pin 6).
6 Pin RJ11 Connector - LSS Tx & Rx, also SVout, WBlin+, GND & Vbatt

http://wbo2.com/2c0/im/y1b-sch.gif The right hand side RJ11 connector is designed for use with an intelligent serial display. Its primary feature is a second serial channel called the Low Speed Serial (LSS) interface which has a 1200 baud data rate (ie. low speed) which is adequate for most displays. Additionally there are duplicates signals found on the RJ45 and green 6 pin connector.
http://wbo2.com/2c0/im/rj11out.jpg LSS Tx [pin 2] sends data frames to display. LSS Rx [pin 1] is not currently supported in firmware.

Batt+ [pin 6] & GND [pin 4] provide current limited power and a return GND for the external display.

SVout [pin 5] & WBlin+ [pin 3] are described in sections above.

ls197gmc
March 24th, 2008, 04:34 PM
thanks! that was it!

Big Block
April 11th, 2008, 03:02 PM
can we log yet using serial output with with lc-1? My analog outputs are reading around 1v constantly when using LM Programmer to set both outputs per the LC-1 install tutorial in efi live.

Blacky
April 11th, 2008, 03:26 PM
can we log yet using serial output with with lc-1? My analog outputs are reading around 1v constantly when using LM Programmer to set both outputs per the LC-1 install tutorial in efi live.

Yes, it should be working in the current beta software.
Regards
Paul

02Z06
May 17th, 2008, 08:48 AM
You do not need to make one. All you have to do is use the genderchanger with null modem capabilities...

Making the cable is optional and its for simplicity. I am using an LM1.

Thing is... sadly i have to use 2 cables :S the serial one from the lm1 and the one i made, i wish that the lm1 had the serial db9 connector.
I am using the LM1 for my WO2. If I use the null-modem male/male adaptor to connect the LM1 serial output to FS2 cable will the output be the same as in the LM1/logworks. I just want to know what I need to change in the LM1 software if anything. Thanks, Jim

joecar
May 17th, 2008, 09:59 AM
Jim,

You don't need to change anything in the LM-1/LC-1... the serial afr is emitted on the serial output regardless of how the analog outputs are programmed.


Cheers,
Joe

02Z06
May 17th, 2008, 10:24 AM
Jim,

You don't need to change anything in the LM-1/LC-1... the serial afr is emitted on the serial output regardless of how the analog outputs are programmed.


Cheers,
Joe
Thanks Joe, That will make it easy. Jim

jomobco
May 20th, 2008, 08:57 AM
I want to make sure I understand this and I'm going to do this right. Use the LC-1 2.5mm to serial cable which was included in package with LC-1. Get a male serial cable to RJ-11 adapter and wire accordingly to schematics shown in this thread. Plug RJ-11 from serial adapter to V2 input next to RJ45 cable on V2 unit. I can now log in digital instead of analog?
Thanks,
John

Blacky
May 20th, 2008, 09:02 AM
I want to make sure I understand this and I'm going to do this right. Use the LC-1 2.5mm to serial cable which was included in package with LC-1. Get a male serial cable to RJ-11 adapter and wire accordingly to schematics shown in this thread. Plug RJ-11 from serial adapter to V2 input next to RJ45 cable on V2 unit. I can now log in digital instead of analog?
Thanks,
John

Yes.
The RJ12 to female 9 pin serial cable is included with your EFILive purchase.
The null modem male to male adapter that can be used between the LC-1's cable and FlashScan's cable can be purchased here:
http://www.sfcable.com/cable/p/30D1-C1-S.html

Regards
Paul

Blacky
May 20th, 2008, 09:04 AM
Plug RJ-11 from serial adapter to V2 input next to RJ45 cable on V2 unit

Should say:
Plug RJ-11 from serial adapter to V2 input next to USB socket on V2 unit

Regards
Paul

jomobco
May 20th, 2008, 02:35 PM
I couldn't find a male2male null modem locally but I did find a RS232 adaptor DB9M/RJ12F such as this:
http://www.firstcable.com/newproduct/Prod_Individual3.aspx?groupcode=I4799

First question I guess is will it work? I've read you need a resistor but I'm not understanding why that's the case. For instance if you had snipped off a 2.5mm plug as it appears some have done and wired it directly to a RJ12 there is no resistor is there?

So I've wired it so that if you're looking at the DB9 Female from the LC-1 with the 5 rows at the top and four on the bottom and you number them left to right top to bottom female hole 3 (I believe DB9 hole 3) is the 2.5mm tip, female hole 4 (DB9 hole 2) is the center of the 2.5mm pin and female hole 1 (DB9 hole 5) is the base of the 2.5mm pin. I've wired my RS232 accordingly but what should I do with the extra 3 wires on it?

Blacky
May 20th, 2008, 06:05 PM
Maybe this diagram will help:
http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?p=71088#post71088

Regards
Paul

jomobco
May 21st, 2008, 12:44 AM
That's an excellent diagram. Thank you! So the extra wires I can just tape off and i'm golden? No more trying to get the correct analog voltage?!?! I can't wait!

Edit: Now I see why the Null Modem comes into play. Even thought I've got male/female connections I've got male securing screws on both sides so only friction or duct tape / zip ties will hold them together.

Blacky
May 21st, 2008, 01:27 AM
So the extra wires I can just tape off and i'm golden?
Yes.


Edit: Now I see why the Null Modem comes into play. Even thought I've got male/female connections I've got male securing screws on both sides so only friction or duct tape / zip ties will hold them together.

I've never screwed the cables together when testing and the friction is plenty strong enough to hold them together. I don't think the null modem connector I linked to has screw receptacles in both sides anyway.

Regards
Paul

jomobco
May 21st, 2008, 06:54 AM
Maybe this diagram will help:
http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?p=71088#post71088

Regards
Paul

I think somethings off in the diagram above. I kept getting that the controller wasn't found. I then went with the RJ12 to 2.5mm diagram posted previously and that worked. Success!

I should temper that. I'm getting free air numbers, not AFR numbers. It goes from 1-3% then jumps to 20.9% momentarily and then back to 1-3%. What is going on?

Blacky
May 21st, 2008, 09:01 AM
I think somethings off in the diagram above. I kept getting that the controller wasn't found. I then went with the RJ12 to 2.5mm diagram posted previously and that worked. Success!

I should temper that. I'm getting free air numbers, not AFR numbers. It goes from 1-3% then jumps to 20.9% momentarily and then back to 1-3%. What is going on?

If you're getting anything other than "Controller Not Found" then the data connection is probably ok.
Does the analog output from the LC-1 work ok? Does it display the expected AFR?

Regards
Paul

ScarabEpic22
May 21st, 2008, 10:26 AM
Paul, thanks for the FS to LC1 serial thread, really helped me understand exactly what needs to be done. Hopefully Ill be able to buy an LC1 here soon, gotta get a GPS first though.

02Z06
May 21st, 2008, 12:12 PM
If you're getting anything other than "Controller Not Found" then the data connection is probably ok.
Does the analog output from the LC-1 work ok? Does it display the expected AFR?

Regards
Paul
Does anybody have a diagram on how to wire the mini-din 8 pin connector(LM1 serial connection port) to theRJ12 plug on FS? Cannot get data transfer with null-modem adapter and FS cable.

VortechC5
May 21st, 2008, 12:20 PM
Curious how the data transfer issue manifests itself. I was planning on trying to get my LM2 working this weekend.

When I ordered my null modem gender bender I also ordered the stuff to make a RJ12/DIN cable so I am curious about that diagram too. If nobody has one I will just use my continuity meter and figure it out.


Does anybody have a diagram on how to wire the mini-din 8 pin connector(LM1 serial connection port) to theRJ12 plug on FS? Cannot get data transfer with null-modem adapter and FS cable.

02Z06
May 21st, 2008, 12:32 PM
Curious how the data transfer issue manifests itself. I was planning on trying to get my LM2 working this weekend.

When I ordered my null modem gender bender I also ordered the stuff to make a RJ12/DIN cable so I am curious about that diagram too. If nobody has one I will just use my continuity meter and figure it out.
Hi Vortech C5, I just tried to check continuity with my meter between the LM1 cable-null modem adapter and mini-din 8 pin connector. With the 8-pin connector the pins are close together and I could not ring it out with the meter and my probes.

VortechC5
May 21st, 2008, 01:02 PM
Hmm, I hadn't thought of that. Maybe I'll see if I can scrounge up a F/F mini din at work that I can borrow. If I can find one I could then use a pin (or piece of wire) in each of the female DIN sockets to tone it out.


Hi Vortech C5, I just tried to check continuity with my meter between the LM1 cable-null modem adapter and mini-din 8 pin connector. With the 8-pin connector the pins are close together and I could not ring it out with the meter and my probes.

jomobco
May 21st, 2008, 02:38 PM
Does anybody have a diagram on how to wire the mini-din 8 pin connector(LM1 serial connection port) to theRJ12 plug on FS? Cannot get data transfer with null-modem adapter and FS cable.

I couldn't get the null modem to work either. I think the second diagram below has the RJ12 wire numbering out of place. I used this image posted by blacky here:
http://forum.efilive.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2874&d=1205983775
and used a DB9male to RJ12 connector like this http://sewelldirect.com/DB9-Male-Serial-to-RJ-12-Modular-Adapter.asp . I then used some information from this diagram posted by blacky here:
http://forum.efilive.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3333&d=1211350225
to get the LC-1 Jack to 9 pin female information. I then went from the female to the DB9 male and wired so that circuits matched first diagram. I finally got a reading although it's goofy and I haven't had a chance to compare with analog yet.

Blacky
May 21st, 2008, 03:44 PM
LM-1 serial cable pinouts.
Regards
Paul

06redram
August 14th, 2011, 03:34 PM
I can't find a reseller that make 90 degree cables for V2

mr.prick
August 14th, 2011, 03:55 PM
OBDII end?
http://www.obd2cables.com/products/obd-cables/obd-ii-cables/?limit=all

06redram
August 14th, 2011, 05:04 PM
OBDII end?
http://www.obd2cables.com/products/obd-cables/obd-ii-cables/?limit=all

I talk to this company 2 weeks ago for our that's need for v2 cable they do not have

mr.prick
August 14th, 2011, 06:18 PM
You would need to crimp the RJ45 end for the V2.

I ended up buying a set of crimpers from Radioshack when the clip for the RJ45 plug broke.
They have been used at least 2 more times since. :hihi:

06redram
August 14th, 2011, 06:25 PM
I do have a crimper Just need to get wiring order and hope they have the same amount and order of pin at the obd2 male end

mr.prick
August 14th, 2011, 08:38 PM
Bench Harness Wiring Pinouts (http://download.efilive.com/Tutorials/PDF/Bench%20Harness%20Tutorial.pdf)

06redram
August 15th, 2011, 01:58 AM
Big thanks to you Mr.P! I just hope the I will be ordering from them has the correct pin on the OBD2 plug end

mr.prick
August 15th, 2011, 08:19 AM
The OBDII end should be standard. :nixweiss:

Make sure to double check the wires for the corresponding pins.

06redram
August 15th, 2011, 12:22 PM
The OBDII end should be standard. :nixweiss:

Make sure to double check the wires for the corresponding pins.

I will order tomorrow and test each pin and wire end. Just need to get the cable, ends

Blacky
August 15th, 2011, 12:30 PM
The cable pins for FlashScan are shown here:
http://download.efilive.com/Tutorials/PDF/Bench%20Harness%20Tutorial.pdf

Regards
Paul

06redram
August 15th, 2011, 03:59 PM
tHANKS bLACKY

06redram
August 21st, 2011, 02:42 PM
Here's what brought to fix the obd 2-90*

http://tapatalk.com/mu/601a5f88-c1e5-7a7e.jpg

Here is the link:
http://www.obd2cables.com/products/

Harrismarine
February 5th, 2012, 03:24 PM
Hi guys, I have made a cable from my V2 to tec edge (8pin connector shown below) it is wired

V2 --- tec edge

1 - 3
2 - 2
5 - 5

I still cannot get the V2 to recognize it. I have the V2 settings on Tec edge, any thoughts on why it wont work?




with the tech edge, it already has a rj11 and rj45 plug/s. which one to use? pin 1,2,4 on the rj11 or pin 2,3,5 on the rj45? im a little confused.





Other RJ45 Outputs - SVout, NBsim, WBlin+, GND & Vbatt

http://wbo2.com/2c0/im/y1a-sch.gif http://wbo2.com/2a0/rj45out.jpg The SVout [pin 1], WBlin+ [pin 4] & NBsim [pin 6] signals are all described in detail above. The SVout signal is intended for analogue displays like the LD01 (http://wbo2.com/ld01/default.htm) and those displays will also use Vbatt & GND described below. The RJ45 connector signal names are shown at right.
A fused, protected and partially filtered battery voltage Vbatt is available from [pin 8] (right most RJ45 signal). This output is provided to power other devices such as the LD02 display (http://wbo2.com/ld02/default.htm). It should only be connected to devices that will draw small currents; typically less than 100 milliamps. Excessive current consumption may cause heating of an internal dropping/protection resistor.
A ground GND point [pin 5-RJ45] is provided as a return for the RS232 and Vbatt connections.
Note that there are number of unconnected outputs (N/C = No Connection) on each of the RJ-45 connectors. Those N/C's that have uses on other wideband units are shown "greyed in" and include WBlin (pin 4) and NBsim (pin 6).
6 Pin RJ11 Connector - LSS Tx & Rx, also SVout, WBlin+, GND & Vbatt

http://wbo2.com/2c0/im/y1b-sch.gif The right hand side RJ11 connector is designed for use with an intelligent serial display. Its primary feature is a second serial channel called the Low Speed Serial (LSS) interface which has a 1200 baud data rate (ie. low speed) which is adequate for most displays. Additionally there are duplicates signals found on the RJ45 and green 6 pin connector.
http://wbo2.com/2c0/im/rj11out.jpg LSS Tx [pin 2] sends data frames to display. LSS Rx [pin 1] is not currently supported in firmware.

Batt+ [pin 6] & GND [pin 4] provide current limited power and a return GND for the external display.

SVout [pin 5] & WBlin+ [pin 3] are described in sections above.

Blacky
February 5th, 2012, 03:28 PM
If any valid serial data is being received by V2 (regardless of whether it is valid Wide band O2 data or not) the orange LED second from the left will flash on FlashScan's, keypad.
If you don't see any flashes of that orange LED then data is physically not getting to FlashScan and it is probably a wiring or WO2 config problem.
If you do see that orange LED flashing, then data is being received by FlashScan and it is most likely a FlashScan config problem.

Regards
Paul

Blacky
February 5th, 2012, 03:32 PM
I'm a little concerned a tthe description that says the LSS baud rate is 1200. FlashScan does not support that baud rate.
The baud rates that FlashScan (and AutoCal) use for WO2 serial data are shown below:
(i.e. both Tech Edge widebands (TE 1.5 and 2.0) supported by FlashScan are expected to transmit at 19200 baud.)



void
wo2SetBaud(void)
{
switch ( cfg_wo2TypeTemp ) {
case cfg_wo2Inn:
case cfg_wo2PLX:
case cfg_wo2TE15:
case cfg_wo2TE20:
case cfg_wo2FJO2:
case cfg_wo2FJO3:
comSetBaud(0,combps_19200);
break;
case cfg_wo2AemUego:
case cfg_wo2Zt2:
comSetBaud(0,combps_9600);
break;
case cfg_wo2Jaw:
comSetBaud(0,combps_14400);
break;
case cfg_wo2ECM:
comSetBaud(0,combps_38400);
break;
}
// Clear out any existing data that may have been collected at the wrong baud rate
fifoReset(&com_rxFifo[0]);
}

Blacky
February 5th, 2012, 03:41 PM
See post #58... (there appears to be a problem with logging serial data from the TechEdge wide bands at the moment)
http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?18135-Release-Candidate-8-Jan-06-2012&p=163877#post163877

Regards
Paul

Harrismarine
February 5th, 2012, 04:19 PM
That might explain my other problem..