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mk6racer
May 12th, 2008, 10:44 AM
I have been unable to perform a crank relearn on my engine. I'm using EFILive scan V7.5. I have a speed density tune, and the only codes i'm getting are 1336. The learn panel is all green and the engines revs fine, in fact too fine...it won't hestiate at 4500 or even up to 5500 RPM. Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks

hquick
May 12th, 2008, 06:20 PM
Can't remember...isn't it only the 'commercial' scan and tune which will do the relearn?

joecar
May 13th, 2008, 01:03 AM
Read thru this: http://www.gearchatter.com/viewtopic9118.php

Aren't you getting a MAF code also (altho that shouldn't stop the relearn)...?

What vehicle/year...?

mk6racer
May 13th, 2008, 11:03 AM
I have a commercial version of EFLive. The vehicle is a mid-engine sports car with a custom harness. I am getting a MAF code (P102) but I agree, since its a SD tune it shouldn't effect the relearn process.

joecar
May 13th, 2008, 12:05 PM
Do you know if your PCM and/or tune file was originally for automatic or manual transmission...?

If auto, then I think you have to have the gear range selector PCM inputs indicating Park;
If man, then I think you have to have the clutch switch input indicating clutch pedal down;

With auto, you may also have to have the brake pedal switch indicate brake pedal applied.

There may be other conditions that have to be met.

hquick
May 13th, 2008, 05:18 PM
I think that's correct Joe.
I've done mine a few times.
As far as I know....brake is required to be pushed and needs to be in Park for the relarn to happen.

Lextech
May 13th, 2008, 11:55 PM
Are you using a PCM with the Blue and Red connectors? If so, Try grounding
pins 32 and 34 of connector C1-Blue. That will make the PCM think the car is in park or neutral.

Jeff

mk6racer
May 15th, 2008, 09:30 AM
Thanks for the great info. I did try grounding pins 32 & 34 on the Blue connector. Still no luck. I have also noticed that the engine idles very rough, which I attributed to the cam (.525 lift 236/226 degree) and that one exhaust is noticably hotter than the other. I am also having a difficult time removing the air from the cooling system. Its running very rich according to the plugs. Could it be that the tune is just too far off for the relearn to work?

mk6racer
May 15th, 2008, 09:40 AM
I just lloked on my schematic...the brake light switch lands on terminal 33...should I short that one too?

joecar
May 15th, 2008, 10:05 AM
Sounds like some cylinders are not firing in one bank... check for plugs/injectors not firing.

Bleed air from the cooling system at the cross-over tube (runs under the throttle body), remove the hose from it and let steam escape... eventually coolant will come out.

You could try to ground 33, check one of the STATE pids to verify that brake applied is being indicated.