TAQ Cables: Wideband to V2 Serial Cables

[TAQuickness]

These are plug-and-play cables enabling you to log your wideband O2 sensor via serial link to FlashScan V2. Learn more about the advantages of serial vs. analog WB logging (http://forum.efilive.com/showpost.php?p=76613&postcount=3).

To order, visit: TAQCables (http://taquickness.com/taqcables.htm)

The following wideband controllers are supported:
TAQCable sLC1 (~ 3' [1m]) for Innovative LC-1*
TAQCable sLC1e (12' [3.7m] extension) for Innovative LC-1
TAQCable sLM2 (~ 4' [1.2m]) for Innovative LM-2
TAQCable sTE (~ 3' [1m]) for TechEdge controllers

Edit: I have dropped the sLM1 from the product line.

*For sLC1 only, custom length cables, from 0.5' (0.15m) up to 12' (3.7m) available for an additional fee

[TAQuickness]

For reference, the PDF attachment contains the instructions for installing the sLM2 cable and validating the connection. Also attached is a photo of the sLM2 cable

[TAQuickness]

Serial communication has many benefits over analog:


Accuracy: Serial data is a digital transmission and is not as susceptible to interference as analog signals (i.e. no static. The data packet is either sent or it's not.)
Efficiency: Setting up V2 for serial communication takes less than 3 minutes and requires 0 maintenance. Analog configuration requires programming of the WB controller, calibration of the analog inputs, and, in some cases, configuring custom PID's to convert the analog input to AFR, lambda, or EQ ratio.
Real Estate: By utilizing V2's serial interface, you now have 1 or 2 more available analog inputs for logging other important stuff (i.e. fuel pressure, oil pressure, oil temp, N20 bottle pressure, etc…). Another good thing, especially for LM-2 users, you can eliminate the WB analog cable!
Perks: When utilizing one of the Innovative widebands, V2 can command the wideband controller to perform a free air calibration of the sensors. You can't do that via analog's.The attached screen shot demonstrates the difference between box-stock serial and analog data. What you are looking at:
Brand new dual channel LM-2 w/ new sensors. Updated to the latest LM-2 firmware and performed a free air calibration for both sensors - no other configuration was performed.
V2 was formatted and upgraded to firmware 20, followed the steps in the sLM2 instructions to setup V2 for serial communications - no other configuration was performed.From left to right, top to bottom: Serial Bank1, Analog Bank1, Serial Bank2, Analog Bank2. Theoretically, there should only be 2 visible traces in the chart. However, you can see there is a 0.3% - 3.7% variance between the respective serial and analog values.

[joecar]

TAQ, generous cable length and good write up... :cheers:

[TAQuickness]

Thanks Joe. That reminds me, cables are about 3 - 4 feet in length.

[TAQuickness]

For reference, the PDF attachment contains the instructions for installing the sLM1 cable and validating the connection. Also attached is a photo of the sLM1 cable

[TAQuickness]

For reference, the PDF attachment contains the instructions for installing the sLC1 cable and validating the connection. Also attached is a photo of the sLC1 cable

[GMPX]

For the price these are being sold for you just would not bother trying to make one yourself. Nice work.

Cheers,
Ross

[Bruce Melton]

For the price these are being sold for you just would not bother trying to make one yourself. Nice work.

Cheers,
Ross

Ain't that the truth?

And considering I will give you one free with a LM-2--

[TAQuickness]

All pm's replied. Thanks guys!

[odd boy]

well done, what I need to get it reading in the scan tool (in the laptop)

[TAQuickness]

The serial logging tutorial (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=8858) :)

[odd boy]

thanks

[TAQuickness]

You're welcome. Let me know when you are ready for a serial cable.

[smithf71]

TAQuickness,
I sent you a pm to order LM-2 to V2 Asap. I understand, that it will be a few days before I receive. Can anyone help with instructions on analog set-up until cable arrives?
I have a nice free day to tune today, and I would hate to miss it. LM-2 single Channel)

Thanks

[TAQuickness]

Welcome to the forum smithf71. PM replied.

To set up the analog, you will need to have a look at the LM-2 manual to decipher the analog cable color codes. Once you've located the channel 1 +- wires, flip over V2 for the A1-4 terminal layout. Be mindful, once the physical connection is made, you will need to calibrate the V2 analog inputs.

[mr.prick]

Welcome to the forum smithf71. PM replied.

To set up the analog, you will need to have a look at the LM-2 manual to decipher the analog cable color codes. Once you've located the channel 1 +- wires, flip over V2 for the A1-4 terminal layout. Be mindful, once the physical connection is made, you will need to calibrate the V2 analog inputs.

what about serial connection?
i am curious as to how everyone is connecting the LM-2, (serial)
they are not yet supported with a PID in the sae.generic.txt so
calc.pids will need to be made manually.
the LM-2 has programmable analog outs like the LC-1 so you could
set it up the same way and use the LC-1 PID settings.

[TAQuickness]

That's one of the beauties of serial WB logging, only one set of PID's supports every supported WB controller. Out of the box, the LC-1 analog PID's support the LM-2 quite well.

[mr.prick]

That's one of the beauties of serial WB logging, only one set of PID's supports every supported WB controller. Out of the box, the LC-1 analog PID's support the LM-2 quite well.

aahhhh :doh2:
that explains why there is only 1 serial WBO2 PID.

[TAQuickness]

All PM's replied. I still have plenty of cables in stock ready to ship!

[XLR8NSS]

Got my LC1 cables today, ordered two because I lose cables a lot. :D

They look great and I'll be testing it out tomorrow. This will get rid of the bulky setup I have now. :)

Thanks

[TAQuickness]

Awesome!

[kbracing96]

Can you build a TechEdge cable?

[TAQuickness]

I don't see why not. I'll let you know in a few hours.

[kbracing96]

I don't see why not. I'll let you know in a few hours.
Cool, I'll take one if you can and also a sLC-1. PM me your Paypal.

[TAQuickness]

KB - PM sent.

[kbracing96]

Thanks TA :D

[ScarabEpic22]

These are sweet cables man, when I invest in a WBO2 Im definitely buying one of these at the same time. Good work!

[ringram]

Once I figure out if Im going LC1 or LM2 Ill be on your case mate. Will also refer a few others your way.

[TAQuickness]

Thanks guys. Let me know when you are ready.

[XLR8NSS]

Cable worked just like it's supposed to and is SO much neater than that contraption I had strewn across my seat. :D

Thanks Andy!! :)

[TAQuickness]

Awesome! The serial connection really makes life easier.

[minytrker]

Another happy customer!
Thanks again.

[TAQuickness]

SPG - I replied to your PM but have not heard back from you. Let me know what you'd like to do.

[TAQuickness]

Due to hurricane Ike, I am unable to process orders. I will update this thread once all systems are up and running again.

[GAMEOVER]

I'll take a sLC1 cable when your up and running again. PM me your paypal address..

Thanks....

[mistermike]

Same Here! LC1 for me. Hope everything's OK with Ike. My sister lives in Fulshear and made it by the skin of her teeth.


http://bp2.blogger.com/_aNO7rBbrU8k/R_4hFX05ctI/AAAAAAAAAe0/cUffi_DEz2w/s400/NoLikeIke.jpg

[nevinsb]

Let me know if you ever start making cables for the AEM UEGO (or just have plans for one).

That really sucks, but you are not alone in the hurricane damage:
http://www.trollsmasher.com/uploaded_images/BigTree-799215.jpg

[TAQuickness]

Woo Hoo! All systems back up and running as of 10 minutes ago! PM's are on their way. Thanks for everyone's patience while we picked up all the pieces.

[TAQuickness]

Let me know if you ever start making cables for the AEM UEGO (or just have plans for one).

That really sucks, but you are not alone in the hurricane damage:
http://www.trollsmasher.com/uploaded_images/BigTree-799215.jpg

Unfortunately, that's an all to familiar scene around here. Is that your home in the picture?


As for the AEM UEGO, I don't have anything in the works for them right now. I'll see what I can do and let you know in the very near future.

[Kevin Doe]

I didn't see anything on length. Can you make custom length ones? I'm interested in one for a LC-1 but would prefer it to be custom length to my spec (I'm running a homemade one right now. Its spliced out of two cables, but half is grey cable, half is black and it looks like shit). I wouldn't mind picking up this since it looks nice and professional.

[TAQuickness]

The sLC1's I have in stock are ~3 feet in length. What length are you needing?

[nevinsb]

One of my friends houses.

Ok, just let me know if you need any information about the AEM.

[GAMEOVER]

Received my WB serial cable today....WOOHOOO!!!! Time to play...

Thanks TAQuickness

[Kevin Doe]

The sLC1's I have in stock are ~3 feet in length. What length are you needing?

5.5 feet if at all possible. I came up with that by making it have the same overall reach as my efilive cable given that they plug in at diferent locations.

[TAQuickness]

Kevin - It might take me a while to muster up a cable longer than what I have in stock (1-2 weeks). A faster more flexible solution may be to acquire a 2.5mm F/M phono cable of desired length. If you're set on the 5.5' length, let me know and I'll proceed on my end.

[Kevin Doe]

I'm stupidly picky. If yours is black, and you can do 5.5', go ahead with it, I can wait. I have something that works now, it just looks like shit in my opinion.

[TAQuickness]

I'm stupidly picky. :cheers: Me too


If yours is black, and you can do 5.5', go ahead with it, I can wait. I have something that works now, it just looks like shit in my opinion. Will do. I'll let you know when it's ready.

[DrkPhx]

I just bought a LM-1 and this looks perfect. But I have a couple of questions.

* My last EFILive software update was Feb-07. Can I still use the serial cable?
* Can I still log the actual AFR in the Scan tool?
* Is it really as simple as the instructions make it sound? :)

Any help is appreciated.

[TAQuickness]

I apologize for the delayed response. Internet service is still rather spotty since Ike blew thru.


I just bought a LM-1 and this looks perfect. But I have a couple of questions.

* My last EFILive software update was Feb-07. Can I still use the serial cable?

You will need to update your EFILive software and Flashscan firmware in order to take advantage of serial logging. The latest software can be downloaded here (http://www.efilive.com/download.aspx).

Before you perform the upgrade take the time to read over the "readme" files. The upgrade is not very difficult, but it is an involved process.


* Can I still log the actual AFR in the Scan tool?

YES! Here's a tutorial for serial logging (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=8858). It covers both BBL and Pass-Thru


* Is it really as simple as the instructions make it sound? :)

YES!:cheers:


Any help is appreciated.

Feel free to post up any other questions you may have.

[DrkPhx]

Thanks for the info. I just upgraded to V7.5.4 and also updated the firmware from the post: http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=4335 Hopefully these are the correct versions. Do I have to upgrade anything else?

[joecar]

Hi DP,

First use that link to upgrade to V7.5; then upgrade your V2 bootblock to 2.4.72.




Then... get the latest update from www.efilive.com/downloads (http://www.efilive.com/downloads) and install V7.5 and V8.1 on your laptop/PC.

After you install V8.1, there is a readme (attached) file that tells you how to update your V2 firmware/bootblock for BBL...

Read the readme several times and ask questions before going ahead with the V2 firmware/bootblock update procedure...

the V2 firmware/bootblock procedure is easy but has many steps... you can get fouled up if you don't understand the readme.

Cheers,
Joe

[DrkPhx]

Do I have to upgrade to V8.1 to use the serial cable? I only want to log the AFR on my laptop (pass through), not on the black box itself. I have to rebuild my PID's and dahsboard from scratch after I just downloaded the V7.5.4 and I really don't feel like doing it again.

[DrkPhx]

Update: I downloaded V8.1 and also updated the firmware and boot block as well. It connects to my vehicles with no problems. However, when I go to "Select PIDS" on the Flashscan itself I get the following message "options.ini not found". I did copy the config files into the config file tab and hit Format, but still the same message. Did I miss something?

[DrkPhx]

I figured it out. Thanks.

[DrkPhx]

Just did my first BBL! Wow, this is so cool. It will be especially helpful when datalogging at the track. No more laptop in the car. Yes! Thanks again. I'm going to order that cable asap.

[joecar]

DP,

You got it all working, cool...:cheers:
Yes, serial/digital AFR is so simple and accurate... get the cable (do you have an LC-1...?).

Do you have an SD memory card...?

[DrkPhx]

DP,

You got it all working, cool...:cheers:
Yes, serial/digital AFR is so simple and accurate... get the cable (do you have an LC-1...?).

Do you have an SD memory card...?

I just bought a LM-1. I'm also going to buy a SD memory card as well. Anything specific required?

[joecar]

The SanDisk 2GB card works good, and can be obtained from Amazon for $5 plus $5 shipping...
just look for the OEM/bulk (it contains just 1 unit) package (not the retail package).

[DrkPhx]

I was BBL'ing today and received error 0185 but it still worked okay. Anyway, I'm ready to order the cable.

[odd boy]

how do I disply the reading through the software?

[joecar]

You set up your V2 as per TAQuickness's tutorial (see earlier posts in this thread), then in the scantool you select and log the following pids:

WO2AFR1
WO2LAM1
WO2ST1

[articSS]

TA Q i sent you a pm about an fjo cable foe serial wb. do you have any cables made or are you going to make one? thx.

[TAQuickness]

ArticSS - Sorry, but I do not currently support the FJO series of controllers.

[joecar]

ArticSS,

On your FJO, do you see a serial out port...? Can you post some pics...?

This needs to connect to the FlashScan serial port input.

You can make a cable: showthread.php?p=80530#post80530 (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?p=80530#post80530)

Or you can get an adapter: see post #45 for an example -> showthread.php?p=80529#post80529 (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?p=80529#post80529)

Your FJO serial connector will look different than the LC-1 shown in those links.

[articSS]

this is the controller i have.http://www.fjoracing.com/products/WBAFR/docs/MWI4001%20WBAFR%20manual%20rev%20C.pdf

[joecar]

this is the controller i have.http://www.fjoracing.com/products/WBAFR/docs/MWI4001%20WBAFR%20manual%20rev%20C.pdfIs the PC connector a DB-9...?

Can you post a pic of that...?

[articSS]

i will try to get a pic this weekend.thanks joe

[TAQuickness]

I've sustained a small data loss and cannot find my contact information for the guy looking for an LM-1/XD-1. If you see this, and you're that guy :), please send me a PM.

[TAQuickness]

PM's replied. Thanks guys!

[TAQuickness]

Updated first post with international shipping rates. All PM's replied

[TAQuickness]

Post Christmas pre New Year bump ;)

[TAQuickness]

Listed new cable on first page :D

[oztracktuning]

Im thinking of ordering an AEM 30-4100 - what cable will i need to use to log from it into Flashscan??

[TAQuickness]

I don't know. If you have any documentation on the AEM serial interface you can email it to me and I'll let you know what I can do. [email protected]

[nevinsb]

I can bring it to work tomorrow and scan it.

[TAQuickness]

In particular, I need specifics on the AEM serial output connector: type of plug and pin-out

[nevinsb]

Red - 12V
Black - Ground
White - 0-5V Analog output
Blue - Serial output

The connector is some goofy 4-pin connector, and I can measure the pitch when I get home. The ground would need to be split, and one would go to a ring terminal.

I was more interested in getting an adapter for the 4-pin square o2 sensor to the wideband analog output, and then just having 2 wires run down to the flashscan.

I sent an email with page 4 of the instructions.

[mr.prick]

Red - 12V
Black - Ground
White - 0-5V Analog output
Blue - Serial output

The connector is some goofy 4-pin connector, and I can measure the pitch when I get home. The ground would need to be split, and one would go to a ring terminal.

I was more interested in getting an adapter for the 4-pin square o2 sensor to the wideband analog output, and then just having 2 wires run down to the flashscan.

I sent an email with page 4 of the instructions.

You need to post a picture of the connector that
plugs into the beck of the AEM.
A part number will help as well.
It looks like it may be something that is not too common.

I noticed the AEM has only 1 wire for serial data, should`nt there be 2? (Tx Data & Rx Data)
RJ12___AEM___Data
------ ------ -----------
1 <---> ???? = Tx Data
2 <---> Blue = Rx Data
5 <---> Black = Ground

I`m not sure about sharing the power ground with the RJ12 ground input.

LC-1 to BB pinout (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=8115)

[nevinsb]

I have attached the instructions with a picture of the connector. I can take a better picture when I get home.

[nevinsb]

Hi, I have attached pictures of the connector. It kind of looks like a 4-pin fan connector off of a desktop computer.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/nevinsb/DSC02561.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/nevinsb/DSC02562.jpg

You only need ground and serial RX since the PC never actually talks to the wideband, just listens.

[mr.prick]

It looks like a Molex connector (http://www.molex.com/molex/products/datasheet.jsp?part=active/0495490410_CRIMP_HOUSINGS.xml&channel=Products&Lang=en-US)

[TAQuickness]

I noticed the AEM has only 1 wire for serial data, should`nt there be 2?
I`m not sure about sharing the power ground with the RJ12 ground input.


+1 & +1.

Not having the hardware in hand, I won't be supporting the UEGO. That said, if one of you can live without your UEGO for a few weeks, I may be able to get something going for you. If you're interested, send me a PM or email.

[nevinsb]

I can mail you mine. I won't be needing it until it warms up a little. I sent an email.

[TAQuickness]

Updated first post with TAQCables website (http://taquickness.com/taqcables.htm) - finally!

[mr.prick]

:thumb_yello:
Nice site.

[GAMEOVER]

I agree...Cool site:):):)

[joecar]

+1 cool color scheme. :cheers:

[TAQuickness]

Thanks guys :)

[TAQuickness]

Online store fully functional. Working on AEM UEGO support over the next week or so

[TAQuickness]

I've added a generic cable type to the line up to support the AEM UEGO and "others".

AEM specific, after you install the UEGO gauge you will need to run the sGEN red to the UEGO blue and connect the sGEN gold and UEGO black to the same ground source.

[TAQuickness]

Bumpin this bad boy up

[mr.prick]

Did you ever make one for the FJO?

[TAQuickness]

No I didn't. I was not able to dig up enough paper to clarify the connector spec's and consitency of connectors across their product line. If you're willing to send me your WB for a couple of weeks email me at [email protected].

[mr.prick]

I don't have one, I was just wondering.
Someone posted about using the FJO with analog and I noticed
that it supported serial.

[nevinsb]

Still haven't had a chance to test mine. On week days, I am gone from 7:30 AM to 9:30 PM between work/school.

[GAMEOVER]

I just ordered a cable for my Brand new LM-2 dual channel...:D
I guess I'm gonna sell my LC-1 w/TAQ cable

[TAQuickness]

Updated first post. Dropped sLM1 from the product line.

[A.O.A]

Dear TA!
I've PM u pleaaaaaaaaase I want my CABLE LOL!!
I am sure u r doing a great job..thanks for all your support!!
cheers

[TAQuickness]

PM Replied. Your cable shipped on the 22nd...

[Supercharged111]

I'll use this as feedback for TAQ. I ordered a Tech Edge cable some time ago. I finally got around to installing it and with the PDF right in front of me it couldn't have been easier. The PID's, OTOH, screwed with me a bit since the AutoVE manual is written assuming you're using analog input.

[TAQuickness]

how bout a fat nasT bump?