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N0DIH
August 31st, 2008, 02:22 PM
How many degrees is ok, vs not ok?

I can't get below -7.5 degrees, the dist cap is physically hitting the intake.

No fault, PCM is yelling at me about it. If no fault is the PCM compensating ok and I don't need to worry about it?

Or do I need to pull dist and move a tooth? I am not aware of the dist being removed ever.

sreve
August 31st, 2008, 04:21 PM
i did the math on a 4.3L some time ago i do not remember it exactly but it was 25* anyway for one tooth.
those composite dizzys even from the general do not seem to always get you very close. timing chain slop could be a factor.
i have slotted the hold down hole to to get get them in line though.
have changed many leaking intake gaskets on vortec engs and much more than once forgot to remember to plug in the cmp until the cel came on. but had no start up or drivability problems. have seen cam retard in the teens with no cel . what problem are you chasing?

hquick
August 31st, 2008, 05:22 PM
I'm playing with this at the moment as well Tom.
I have mine pretty well set at present but I want to see a log fom someone showing how the CMPRET moves around under normal driving conditions.
How old's the dizzy Tom?
I just installed an Aluminium dizzy which seems like a much better unit than the OEM plastic version. Cost me $80 plus shipping...complete. MUCH better cap to.

N0DIH
September 1st, 2008, 07:22 PM
They used plastic? I can't see mine, it is buried back there on the 454. Yup, my CMPRET moves around a degree or 2. Let me dig up a datalog on it. I wouldn't think it should, unless it is the timing chain slack letting things vary as it runs.

To put a cap/rotor on the 454, it is almost all feel, very hard to see there, I can't imagine getting it out even. Intake off maybe.

hquick
September 1st, 2008, 07:33 PM
Yeah....plastic Dizzy!
What the hell were they thinking? :nixweiss: :eek:
The aluminium unit is ALOT better.
The guy has them for the 7.4 also.

N0DIH
September 2nd, 2008, 12:59 AM
Are they just older ones modded with new internals?

Down Under or Up Yonder?


Yeah....plastic Dizzy!
What the hell were they thinking? :nixweiss: :eek:
The aluminium unit is ALOT better.
The guy has them for the 7.4 also.

hquick
September 2nd, 2008, 06:32 AM
The new ones are completely Aluminium body and all new equipment.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/Vortec%20Distributor/DSC_6305.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/Vortec%20Distributor/DSC_6307.jpg

I polished the lip on mine....just because. Lol!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/Vortec%20Distributor/P8280201.jpg

Lextech
September 2nd, 2008, 07:04 AM
I polished the lip on mine....just because. Lol!

I would have expected no less :cool:

Jeff

N0DIH
September 2nd, 2008, 07:07 AM
On the 454 no one would ever see it... But that doesn't stop you from doing it!

joecar
September 2nd, 2008, 07:11 AM
Nice pix, Howard.

hquick
September 2nd, 2008, 07:27 AM
Jeff...you know me too well. Lol!
Tom...can't see it on the 5.7L either....but that never stopped me before.
Thanks Joe.