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N0DIH
September 20th, 2008, 04:58 PM
I would like to know how I can add PID's manually?

I have one that is "unsupported" that sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. It isn't a techincally supported engine for EFIL. But overall, works generally pretty well. very few issues.

How can I tweak things to make that PID supported?

Thanks!

mr.prick
September 20th, 2008, 06:05 PM
what is the PID?
if it is based of another PID you need to select that other PID.

N0DIH
September 21st, 2008, 12:30 AM
GM.ASPARK Not calc'd, not dependent on any others.




what is the PID?
if it is based of another PID you need to select that other PID.

joecar
September 21st, 2008, 06:48 AM
Tom, what controller do you have...?

N0DIH
September 21st, 2008, 10:38 AM
HW is 9380717
OS is 12201866


Tom, what controller do you have...?

GMPX
September 21st, 2008, 11:51 AM
When EFILive connects to the vehicle the part where it validates the PID's is a process where the PC queries the PCM checking which PID's the PCM supports.
So if the PCM responds that a certain PID is not supported then there is nothing you can do, GM never included support to log that PID in the PCM program.
DMA PID's are a different story, EFILive has to manually define every DMA PID per operating system. It's an arduous task trying to keep that up to date over so many controllers and OS's, so you might find on some late model vehicles you get some DMA PID's to validate whilst others won't.

Cheers,
Ross

N0DIH
September 21st, 2008, 12:24 PM
DMA PID's?

Any clue why this one would work sometimes, and sometimes not?


When EFILive connects to the vehicle the part where it validates the PID's is a process where the PC queries the PCM checking which PID's the PCM supports.
So if the PCM responds that a certain PID is not supported then there is nothing you can do, GM never included support to log that PID in the PCM program.
DMA PID's are a different story, EFILive has to manually define every DMA PID per operating system. It's an arduous task trying to keep that up to date over so many controllers and OS's, so you might find on some late model vehicles you get some DMA PID's to validate whilst others won't.

Cheers,
Ross

N0DIH
October 7th, 2008, 07:33 AM
Are DMA PID's editable by the users?

GMPX
October 7th, 2008, 10:40 AM
DMA PID's?

Any clue why this one would work sometimes, and sometimes not?
No, it doesn't make sense why they would be intermittent.


Are DMA PID's editable by the users?
No they are not. DMA PID's are found by reverse engineering the PCM code and finding the RAM address (per OS) for a given parameter, not a trivial task.

Cheers,
Ross