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MICK
September 26th, 2008, 07:49 PM
I have expanded the range of operating systems supported in the cax files for the Transient Fuel Parameters.

Let me know if you see any issues and I will have a look.

Have fun Guys.

Mick

MICK
September 26th, 2008, 07:51 PM
Just thought I would include the original cax files.

Aloicious
September 26th, 2008, 10:20 PM
holy g-force batman! good job. I'd be interested in a combined transient/lean cruise .cax for 12208322. I'll have to look into it tommorow when I have access to download some of this to my laptop.

joecar
September 27th, 2008, 05:25 AM
Just thought I would include the original cax files.Mick,
Thanks, that's great... :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

12202088.cax still has the old scaler 0.00048905... should it be changed to 0.024993...?

01250003.cax also has the old scaler, is this ok...?

Thanks,
Joe

joecar
September 27th, 2008, 05:27 AM
Can I copy 12212156.cax to 02020005.cax...?

And does the lean cruise stuff apply to 02020005...?

joecar
September 27th, 2008, 05:36 AM
Mick,

The 12212156.cax file contains this line:
; Calibration definition extension for OS 02020003

Is that ok...?

I thought 02020005 was derived from 12212156.

Joe

joecar
September 27th, 2008, 05:41 AM
12212156.cax and 0202003.cax are identical files...

01290003.cax is different from these only in that B9003 max limit is 5.

joecar
September 27th, 2008, 05:44 AM
holy g-force batman! good job. I'd be interested in a combined transient/lean cruise .cax for 12208322. I'll have to look into it tommorow when I have access to download some of this to my laptop.After some sanity checking, I can merge LC into those files.

MICK
September 27th, 2008, 07:54 AM
Can I copy 12212156.cax to 02020005.cax...?

And does the lean cruise stuff apply to 02020005...?



Yes Joe,

Rename the file and have a look at the parameters. You will find more supported operating systems including the cos5's.

I picked out that B9007 was looking a little out, if you see a TP setting of 29.7 or something like that this is wrong. I will look more at it. In that cax I also disabled 2 other parameters because they were not right.

I believe that in the cos operating systems true closed loop is disabled to make use of the commanded open loop tables for fueling. Therefor lean cruise is non functional without O2 feedback.

To find the parameter tables in 12212156 it was a simple task. The parameter locations were increased 2 hex bits from 12202088. There was no Black Magic to find these parameters, I just used a term called pattern recognition.

I have done this for quite some time on the OBD1 code on the Holden's as there is lacking support for there definitions, so I might make it look easy. To explain a little. If you know how many rows and columns there are in a parameter table you can build a table then shift through the code to find all the possible outcomes.

This is one software that I use to shift through the code to find table locations, only catch is you need to be able to work in .bin format. This software will search the code for all tables as such.

http://www.evc.de/en/download/down_winols.asp

I will look at the other stuff.

Cheers

Mick

MICK
September 27th, 2008, 08:01 AM
After some sanity checking, I can merge LC into those files.

Yes, if you want to do that you can. Thought I would leave a little fun for you.

Mick

MICK
September 27th, 2008, 08:18 AM
12212156.cax and 0202003.cax are identical files...


Yes this is correct. 12212156 is the base of the 02020003 cos3. To explain this a little. The same base definition file is used in the cos operating systems, there are extra parameters included for the boost code. As most of the other parameters reside in the same location as the base operating system. Look at the custom operating system tutorial on page 4 and you will see what I talking about. If you build a .cax file for the stock GM operating system, there is a good chance that it can be used for the EFILive Custom operating system just by renaming it.

01290003.cax is different from these only in that B9003 max limit is 5.

I found there was not much difference between 12212156 and 12225074. I found that when looking at a few tunes that the range was out so I increased it to get rid of the out of range.

I will admit that there are errors that need more work on the 12212156 .cax family of files. This is a good grounding for you all to get you started. Better then having nothing at all.

Cheers

Mick

MICK
September 27th, 2008, 08:30 AM
Mick,

The 12212156.cax file contains this line:
; Calibration definition extension for OS 02020003

Is that ok...?

I thought 02020005 was derived from 12212156.

Joe

Yeah I was getting through it pretty quick and may have missed a few things, so I don't mind you pulling me up on things like that. More eyes make lighter work....:)

12212156 is the base operating system. 02020003 and 02020005 should be the same .cax file as they use 12212156 as the base for both.

The reason I posted all the different operating system part numbers is to make things a little easier in some way for people. You notice that some guys were having trouble getting the parameters to show up because they had a conflict difference between the name of the .cax file and the operating system ID of the tune they wanted to view.

When you make a correction to one of these .cax file family groups, you will need to make the change to the others as well.

Hope this clears it up for you.

Cheers

Mick

Aloicious
September 27th, 2008, 09:46 AM
After some sanity checking, I can merge LC into those files.

:cucumber:

this is some great stuff going on here.

Outstanding job Mick & Joecar.

ringram
September 27th, 2008, 10:16 AM
This is one software that I use to shift through the code to find table locations, only catch is you need to be able to work in .bin format. This software will search the code for all tables as such.

http://www.evc.de/en/download/down_winols.asp

I will look at the other stuff.

Cheers

Mick

Thats pretty cool software. Took a quick look at the manual. Very nice. That would kill too many brain cells getting to grips with though. I think Ill keep to my day job :)

Biggsy
September 27th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Yes Joe,

Rename the file and have a look at the parameters. You will find more supported operating systems including the cos5's.

I picked out that B9007 was looking a little out, if you see a TP setting of 29.7 or something like that this is wrong. I will look more at it. In that cax I also disabled 2 other parameters because they were not right.

I believe that in the cos operating systems true closed loop is disabled to make use of the commanded open loop tables for fueling. Therefor lean cruise is non functional without O2 feedback.

To find the parameter tables in 12212156 it was a simple task. The parameter locations were increased 2 hex bits from 12202088. There was no Black Magic to find these parameters, I just used a term called pattern recognition.

I have done this for quite some time on the OBD1 code on the Holden's as there is lacking support for there definitions, so I might make it look easy. To explain a little. If you know how many rows and columns there are in a parameter table you can build a table then shift through the code to find all the possible outcomes.

This is one software that I use to shift through the code to find table locations, only catch is you need to be able to work in .bin format. This software will search the code for all tables as such.

http://www.evc.de/en/download/down_winols.asp

I will look at the other stuff.

Cheers

Mick

Ahhhh, memories! Spending hours sifting through earlier Holden .bin files looking for tables (especially when locations were changed several times within same models :doh2:)

You using the raw .bin files to do this or the EFILIVE scrambled/modified ones?

joecar
September 27th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Mick,

I'm doing a "code-review" so to speak... like you said "many eyes"... I bounce device driver code (my day time work) off various people at work and I'm amazed sometimes at what they find... "a new set of eyes"... :cheers:

I have some very good text/binary difference editors that leave nothing unturned... ;)





12202088.cax still has the old scaler 0.00048905... should it be changed to 0.024993...?

01250003.cax also has the old scaler, is this ok...?

JoeWhat about this: should I just edit 12202088.cax to include the new scaler...?

Cheers
Joe

joecar
September 27th, 2008, 11:37 AM
Ah, I see... 12212156 is the base of both 0202003 and 02020005.

MICK
September 27th, 2008, 12:37 PM
Mick,

I'm doing a "code-review" so to speak... like you said "many eyes"... I bounce device driver code (my day time work) off various people at work and I'm amazed sometimes at what they find... "a new set of eyes"... :cheers:

I have some very good text/binary difference editors that leave nothing unturned... ;)


What about this: should I just edit 12202088.cax to include the new scaler...?

Cheers
Joe


Yes Joe,

That's the one to use, it is accurate to .001%.

Mick

MICK
September 27th, 2008, 01:01 PM
Ahhhh, memories! Spending hours sifting through earlier Holden .bin files looking for tables (especially when locations were changed several times within same models :doh2:)

You using the raw .bin files to do this or the EFILIVE scrambled/modified ones?


Currently I'm working with EFILive software and the encrypted .tun format using a compare mode, there is no need for me to go any further.

I created a potion last night that is very powerful, yet to test this spell but I hope it will give me the strength to continue with my quest.

:angel_innocent:

Biggsy
September 27th, 2008, 01:36 PM
I created a potion last night that is very powerful, yet to test this spell but I hope it will give me the strength to continue with my quest.

:angel_innocent:

lol, watch out, people used to get burnt at the stake and drowned for that!

joecar
September 27th, 2008, 04:17 PM
Mick,

I reread COS tutorial page 4...

I diffed all the cax files in every direction/dimension/permutation, and these are the 4 base cax files from which all others will be copied (see attached)... I edited the comment showing which OS's each file supports.

I edited out any non-significant differences (i.e. whitespace, description text reminders) so that all 4 files have uniform format... i.e. any differences are significant.

I am almost ready to merge in the lean cruise stuff...

joecar
September 27th, 2008, 09:03 PM
Mick,

In file 12208322.cax, have I gotten B9000 and B9001 correct -->
see attached diff report of 12208322.cax (left side) with 01270003.cax (right side) -->
look at lines 364/367 and 402/405 --->
sanity check: which one is correct...?

Thanks,
Joe

MICK
September 27th, 2008, 09:18 PM
Joe,

I like your work!!! I was spending some time today doing the same thing.

That looks good to if you want to add the lean cruise code.

Only thing is people might be getting a little confused with which files are the most updated. I would like to tidy up the posted files here there and everywhere. Maybe even put them in there own thread and lock it. Then when we have updates to the files you can handle the posting of the updates and keep them in one place.

Do you have admin access to do this on the forum?

I also want to collaborate our efforts if your interested, I will keep looking into new operating systems and look at fixing parameter errors, you can handle the files and be the second set of eyes and have some fun on the way.

I was also wondering if Mick 5.7 Ute would be interested in posting his mods to the cal_link.txt file to enable the tracking of these Transient Parameters and supply his input to get the real-time going?

This is my definition of TEAM.

Together Everyone Achieves More.

No Bad Apples.....:)

joecar
September 27th, 2008, 09:31 PM
I'll make a new sticky/locked thread that will contain the sequence of updates.

hquick
September 27th, 2008, 11:32 PM
Good idea Mick :thumb_yello:

Well done on the 'sticky' thing Joe. With you two guys together....this will be a very interesting project. :rockon:

Whippled 496
September 28th, 2008, 08:34 AM
Anything for COS3 03190003?

joecar
September 28th, 2008, 11:41 AM
No not yet.

MICK
September 28th, 2008, 02:36 PM
Anything for COS3 03190003?


Whippled 496,

Could you post your tune in this thread and I will check out the possibilities. If it looks good I will put something together and forward it to Joe to review.

Cheers

Mick

dc_justin
September 28th, 2008, 03:33 PM
Whippled 496,

Could you post your tune in this thread and I will check out the possibilities. If it looks good I will put something together and forward it to Joe to review.

Cheers

Mick

Mick,

Here's a stock tune with that comparable OS.

Justin

Whippled 496
September 28th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Thanks Mick and Justin....here is one of my recent tunes i was working on.

5.7ute
September 29th, 2008, 11:16 AM
No worries Mick. I will clean up the cal link txt files that I have & post them here for Joe to add to the sticky. As for real time input I havent had a good look at this yet, but once we get it worked out it wont take long at all to implement it.
Attached is the file for build no 66. If anyone is still running an earlier build & would like me to modify their cal link to suit post it here & I will get it changed.

MICK
September 30th, 2008, 09:43 AM
Thanks Mick.

Good Job!!

Cheers

Mick

joecar
September 30th, 2008, 12:39 PM
Thanks 5.7/Mick, I'll add that to the .cax update thread.

MICK
September 30th, 2008, 11:39 PM
Joe,

I have found another supported OS: 92111922.

Could you review this file and add it to the supported list. I'm thinking that this one will complete the 2001 year models.

Thanks

Mick

joecar
October 1st, 2008, 02:31 AM
I don't have lean cruise .cax file for that OS... so I appended a placeholder/comment and added to the zip file in the cax updates thread.

joecar
October 1st, 2008, 02:37 AM
Mick, what OS's are derived from 92111922...? Or is that the one-and-only...?

MICK
October 1st, 2008, 08:01 PM
Mick, what OS's are derived from 92111922...? Or is that the one-and-only...?


This is the OS for the 2002 Holden Ute, one off sort of thing that was close to 12202088. Uses the same efilive custom OS as 12202088.


Joe use the Ox address 29A86 for the lean cruise on this one. Everything else should be ok. With other operating systems just have a look around this address with a hex editor and look for Ox6606 and that will be your target....:)

Cheers

Mick

Aloicious
October 1st, 2008, 09:15 PM
quick question about the transient fueling table b9000, its given as deg C vs KpA...I'm guessing this is ECT degrees, right? not like IAT...just trying to clarify.

I also noticed on the 12212156 OS .CAX file in the most recent update, the B9007 (Max TPS setting) is default set at 39.96, whereas other OS's are default set at like 3.00. is that an error?

GMPX
October 1st, 2008, 09:44 PM
Joe use the Ox address 29A86 for the lean cruise on this one. Everything else should be ok. With other operating systems just have a look around this address with a hex editor and look for Ox6606 and that will be your target....:)

Cheers

Mick

Guys, 92111922 & 12225074 were only used on Holdens, so the lean cruise patch is kinda pointless unless you are just looking to create the same thing for every OS?

Cheers,
Ross

Whippled 496
October 1st, 2008, 11:14 PM
Whippled 496,

Could you post your tune in this thread and I will check out the possibilities. If it looks good I will put something together and forward it to Joe to review.

Cheers

Mick


Hey Mick....any luck with the files me and Justin posted? Not pushing....just wondering. Thanks for putting your time into this stuff....a lot of us really appreciate it!!

MICK
October 2nd, 2008, 07:34 PM
Hey Mick....any luck with the files me and Justin posted? Not pushing....just wondering. Thanks for putting your time into this stuff....a lot of us really appreciate it!!


Humm, I have checked it out and I need to change attack to sort this one, it will take me a little while to work things out. I will put some more time on it over the weekend and we will see what comes of it?.......:)

Hang in there it just might come to me.

Cheers

Mick

Whippled 496
October 2nd, 2008, 10:22 PM
Humm, I have checked it out and I need to change attack to sort this one, it will take me a little while to work things out. I will put some more time on it over the weekend and we will see what comes of it?.......:)

Hang in there it just might come to me.

Cheers

Mick

Cool, Thanks Mick!

joecar
October 3rd, 2008, 02:45 AM
Guys, 92111922 & 12225074 were only used on Holdens, so the lean cruise patch is kinda pointless unless you are just looking to create the same thing for every OS?

Cheers,
RossRoss,

We're trying to make all OS's look uniform since this allows diffs to show only the real differences.

Cheers
Joe
:hihi:

Whippled 496
October 11th, 2008, 04:07 AM
Humm, I have checked it out and I need to change attack to sort this one, it will take me a little while to work things out. I will put some more time on it over the weekend and we will see what comes of it?.......:)

Hang in there it just might come to me.

Cheers

Mick

Not pushing...LOL....just wondering if you had a chance to take a peak at this one. Howard keeps teasing me over at PT.net about how much fun he is having.... :)

MICK
October 11th, 2008, 09:14 PM
That Howard is a bad apple...LOL.

Your OS is the one that I'm currently looking at. The 1mb code is very busy in these PCM's. I have found a few tables to look harder at but that's it currently. I will keep chipping away at it and hopefully something will come of it.

Not much to brag about at this stage I must say.

Cheers

Mick

Whippled 496
October 12th, 2008, 02:15 AM
okay, thanks for the update Mick.

Whippled 496
October 23rd, 2008, 11:31 AM
just my weekly update to see if there has been any progress for COS3 03190003.

thanks
jimmie

Whippled 496
November 3rd, 2008, 11:22 PM
Just me checking in to see if there was any progress made on the CAX files for COS3 03190003.

Jimmie

Whippled 496
November 14th, 2008, 05:24 PM
just me again.....

Whippled 496
November 22nd, 2008, 05:39 AM
Hey, guess who...LOL.

joecar
November 22nd, 2008, 07:51 AM
I think MICK has been busy... just keep pinging. ;)

Whippled 496
November 22nd, 2008, 12:22 PM
I think MICK has been busy... just keep pinging. ;)


LOL...I come in and do some reading, then drop a calling card from time to time :)

hquick
November 22nd, 2008, 01:53 PM
Oh man...you again??? Lol!
I know Mick is still working on the 1mb files...if that helps. :grin:

Highlander
November 30th, 2008, 07:02 PM
what is the purpose then of the lean cruise on a 005 OS??? Are you guys using closed loop with the 005 os?

Thanks

Whippled 496
December 12th, 2008, 03:10 PM
hello :) me again.

hquick
December 12th, 2008, 03:16 PM
I know what's in the box.......transient fuelling tables! :hihi:

Spoke to Mick the other day....he's still working on it but it's giving him grief.
Alot more difficult than the 512k PCM's.

s10mods
December 29th, 2008, 11:28 AM
so what are the transient fuelling tables? do these help with LC?

hquick
December 29th, 2008, 01:30 PM
Well....not really Joe but the LC is enabled.
They do help with the lean tip in spikes created when using forced induction.

s10mods
December 29th, 2008, 03:21 PM
ah, I did see that LC was enabled, but I didnt know if these needed to be modified too. I just downladed the .cax files today and was going to play around with them tomorrow if the weather stays decent around here. i'm still running the old NA yet.

Aloicious
December 29th, 2008, 06:02 PM
Well....not really Joe but the LC is enabled.
They do help with the lean tip in spikes created when using forced induction.

or N/A, in a general sense, transient fueling is any spike, rich or lean, which is not commanded nor associated with any specific airflow calculation cells in the VE or MAF. it usually happens at throttle tip in or out, at least for me it does.

when you're doing autove, and filter the collected data, what you're filtering out is the transient fuel because it is unrelated to any specific cell in the airflow tables.

like howard said, LC has nothing to do with transient fuel, but joe added it to the CAX file so both are available to those who want them.

Chevy366
December 31st, 2008, 04:34 AM
Am I reading this right ? There is no .cax LC or transient fueling for the 1 mb PCM , or can the LC be used and not the transient fueling ?

Gil

MICK
December 31st, 2008, 12:51 PM
There might be a .cax for the LC for the 1mb PCM's, not to sure, need to check out the part numbers that are hanging around.

Have not fully worked out the Transient parameters for the 1 mb PCM's as yet. Really need some serious info to make sure everything is correct. Personally don't want to be responsible for suppling dud info which could burn down your engines. If some body would like to share info to unlock these parameters I would be more then glad to include them.

Sorry been side tracked, building definition templates for the early model OBD1 Holden's. Got some really cool updates to TC's OBD1 RT Tuning software that will support Craig Moates Ostrich V1 and V2 emulator and those 1 mb eproms. You folks that have been chasing tuning support for your Holden VS/VT V6 and V8 will be impressed....:gossip:

One day EFI V8 will support OBD1 tuning so this might make things interesting.

Cheers

Mick

Chevy366
December 31st, 2008, 04:35 PM
There might be a .cax for the LC for the 1mb PCM's, not to sure, need to check out the part numbers that are hanging around.

Have not fully worked out the Transient parameters for the 1 mb PCM's as yet. Really need some serious info to make sure everything is correct. Personally don't want to be responsible for suppling dud info which could burn down your engines. If some body would like to share info to unlock these parameters I would be more then glad to include them.

Sorry been side tracked, building definition templates for the early model OBD1 Holden's. Got some really cool updates to TC's OBD1 RT Tuning software that will support Craig Moates Ostrich V1 and V2 emulator and those 1 mb eproms. You folks that have been chasing tuning support for your Holden VS/VT V6 and V8 will be impressed....:gossip:

One day EFI V8 will support OBD1 tuning so this might make things interesting.

Cheers

Mick
Was just looking to try LC out on a OS 12592618 , 1mb PCM .
When this first got going I DLed the original .cax file (think it is for 512 PCMs) , but got side tracked and then saw that this line of development is going on so thought I would check it out see how far it had gone .
If anyone has a .cax LC file for the 1mb PCMs or has used the original .cax file on a 1mb PCM successfully .


Gil

MICK
December 31st, 2008, 07:23 PM
Gil,

Could not find an operating system with this part number OS 12592168.

Found a Hummer with this OS 12592618 and the jump was at Ox29AB4.

Could you post your tune and I will have a look see for you.

Cheers

Mick

Chevy366
January 1st, 2009, 03:52 AM
Gil,

Could not find an operating system with this part number OS 12592168.

Found a Hummer with this OS 12592618 and the jump was at Ox29AB4.

Could you post your tune and I will have a look see for you.

Cheers

Mick
Sorry , did get the last 3 digits wrong (was in a hurry) it is 618 , not 168 , it is a 6.0L here is a stock tune for it :

Thanks would appreciate the look see !



Gil

Chevy366
January 1st, 2009, 05:26 AM
Crap I think I had it already . :bangin:
Had backed up HD and forgot about the data . :doh2:
Thanks for the help MICK , let me know if this is the wrong .cax file . :secret:

Gil

joecar
January 1st, 2009, 11:13 AM
Gil, your zip attachment contains the .cax files which patch lean cruise only (and do not have transient fuel merged in).

MICK
January 1st, 2009, 10:21 PM
Crap I think I had it already . :bangin:
Had backed up HD and forgot about the data . :doh2:
Thanks for the help MICK , let me know if this is the wrong .cax file . :secret:

Gil

Yeah that looks good from here.

Ox6606 at that address is what your looking for.

Cheers

Mick

Chevy366
January 2nd, 2009, 04:18 AM
Thanks , Mick , joecar , yeah was just looking for LC and will wait for transient fueling .
Just out of curiosity what is that address Ox6606 , hex decimal added to transient fuel text ?
Keep up the good work Mick !



Thanks again for the info .
Gil

Whippled 496
January 8th, 2009, 11:45 AM
Still looking for any data for the COS3 03190003 OS. If there is any info or files I can offer up to help just let me know. Thanks for the help!

Whippled 496
January 18th, 2009, 03:05 AM
Just me again....checking in....please go on about your business....:)

Whippled 496
January 27th, 2009, 01:24 PM
Hey look who it is....its the jerk-off with the 1mb PCM....LOL. Sorry, just browsing and checking in.

Aloicious
January 27th, 2009, 07:42 PM
Hey look who it is....its the jerk-off with the 1mb PCM....LOL. Sorry, just browsing and checking in.


jerk off!:angel_innocent::grin:

Whippled 496
February 26th, 2009, 10:58 AM
Suprise!!! its me!!

Bye.

mr.prick
February 26th, 2009, 04:29 PM
I still don`t get the CAX files,
do they create new tables in the OS?
How are they viewed/edited?

hquick
February 26th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Here's a couple of screenshots.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/Tune%20and%20log%20screen%20shots/transient1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/Tune%20and%20log%20screen%20shots/impactfactor.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/Tune%20and%20log%20screen%20shots/IFmod.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/Tune%20and%20log%20screen%20shots/BTconstant.jpg

joecar
February 27th, 2009, 08:40 AM
I still don`t get the CAX files,
do they create new tables in the OS?
How are they viewed/edited?They don't create new tables, they simply provide a pointer or offset into the binary and a definition of what the bits/bytes mean and text labels for displaying in the tunetool tree...

the cax files define what a region of "memory" means and the tunetool has functions built into it to interpret the cax definition to know how to display/edit the data in that region.

Whippled 496
February 28th, 2009, 11:46 AM
HQUICK..........I hate you.

:)

MICK
February 28th, 2009, 05:44 PM
HQUICK..........I hate you.

:)


I admire your patients and perseverance. You have good humor about it all!!!

Also had a look at your video's on your web, pretty cool site.

Had another look around your operating system and I will put a little more time on it and see how I go, not making any promises.

Cheers

Mick

dc_justin
March 1st, 2009, 04:20 AM
I admire your patients and perseverance. You have good humor about it all!!!

Also had a look at your video's on your web, pretty cool site.

Had another look around your operating system and I will put a little more time on it and see how I go, not making any promises.

Cheers

Mick

I'd be glad to help incentivize you. :cheers:

Had a chance to adjust the use these parameters to fix a pretty bad lean spike tip-in on a MAF'd truck (go figure) on Friday. Worked beautifully.

hquick
March 1st, 2009, 09:49 AM
What adjustments did you make Justin?

Whippled 496
March 1st, 2009, 02:02 PM
I admire your patients and perseverance. You have good humor about it all!!!

Also had a look at your video's on your web, pretty cool site.

Had another look around your operating system and I will put a little more time on it and see how I go, not making any promises.

Cheers

Mick

Mick,
This is your personal time and I am in no way going to be impatient about something someone does not have to do. Sure, I wish that EFILive had the time to release an update with the transient fueling built in but they have already addressed this as something they will not do. I come in to the CAX section from time to time just to see where we are with this thing. I really do appreciate the time you contribute to helping others and if there is something you need from me to help you out....just say the word! Otherwise I will continue to swing in and say "hello!"

Jimmie

MICK
March 21st, 2009, 04:02 PM
Hay Jimmie,

There is something you can do for me to help out.

I added a Lean Cruise patch to a .cax file for your operating system base: 12593058.

I renamed the attached file to your custom operating system # 03190003.

You want to test out the operation of the Lean Cruise?

I droped a couple other tables in there while I was looking for the Transient Impact Factor Table. Don't play with these as this is just where I left off and I don't know what they are yet.

I will have a look around again and see if I can pinpoint the Impact factor table.

Cheers

Mick

Whippled 496
March 22nd, 2009, 12:10 PM
Hay Jimmie,

There is something you can do for me to help out.

I added a Lean Cruise patch to a .cax file for your operating system base: 12593058.

I renamed the attached file to your custom operating system # 03190003.

You want to test out the operation of the Lean Cruise?

I droped a couple other tables in there while I was looking for the Transient Impact Factor Table. Don't play with these as this is just where I left off and I don't know what they are yet.

I will have a look around again and see if I can pinpoint the Impact factor table.

Cheers

Mick

Awesome Mick!!! I just wish I would have popped in here earlier and I could have tried this out today....:bangin:. I will load it up tomorrow and it give it a whirl. Thanks again!

Jimmie

Whippled 496
March 23rd, 2009, 10:40 AM
I think we got a winner Mick. I set up what i think is the right way to enable LC and it seemed to do what it was supposed to.

B9011 = Enabled
B3634 = 120 seconds
B3635 = 20 seconds
B3636 = 45 mph
B3637 = 30 mph
B3638 = 1.0

I generically populated some data in B3639 from 1600 rpm - 2400 rpm (which unfortunately is my cruising RPM) and from 0.24 g/cl - 0.72 g/cl.

I left B3646 all zero's up until 158*F then all "1's" from there up.

When all the filters were satisfied, it leaned out like it was supposed to. I think you may be onto something MICK.....is the wall wetter next?

MICK
March 23rd, 2009, 08:53 PM
Yeah that might be the plan, I will keep looking around for you and see how I go.

Hang in there, you just never know?

Cheers

Mick

Whippled 496
April 5th, 2009, 10:13 AM
Just checkin to see if any :secret: stuff was floating around yet.

GMPX
April 7th, 2009, 08:17 AM
I finally did it!, transient fuel has been added to the LS1 calibrations for all OS's from 1998 - 2008, these will be in the next update.

Cheers,
Ross

dc_justin
April 7th, 2009, 08:19 AM
Ross, you ROCK!

GMPX
April 7th, 2009, 08:24 AM
The setup on the 2003+ was quite different to 1998-2002 due to the Ethanol fuel options. Hopefully I added enough to make it do what you guys need.

Cheers,
Ross

ScarabEpic22
April 7th, 2009, 08:27 AM
Thats great for all the LS1 guys!!!

Whippled 496
April 7th, 2009, 08:36 AM
The setup on the 2003+ was quite different to 1998-2002 due to the Ethanol fuel options. Hopefully I added enough to make it do what you guys need.

Cheers,
Ross

Ross,
Thank you very much!!! This has pushed me over the edge to purchase the V2. Thanks again!!!

hquick
April 7th, 2009, 08:56 AM
Nope....April 1st has been and gone....so....this must be true!
Lol!
Thanks Ross.
Another feather in the cap for EFILive.

GMPX
April 7th, 2009, 09:36 AM
Ross,
Thank you very much!!! This has pushed me over the edge to purchase the V2. Thanks again!!!
Whilst I appreciate you wanting to do that, you don't need a V2 to use the new tables (I am assuming you have a V1 already).

I've sent the updated .calz files to Paul to include in the next update. Paul is aiming for an update for Easter.
I'm not sure what will happen if you have the tables defined in the .cax files and in the new .calz files, might want to keep an eye on that.

Cheers,
Ross

joecar
April 7th, 2009, 09:46 AM
Cool...:cheers:

Should we delete our old cax files...?

Aloicious
April 7th, 2009, 10:07 AM
Whilst I appreciate you wanting to do that, you don't need a V2 to use the new tables (I am assuming you have a V1 already).

I've sent the updated .calz files to Paul to include in the next update. Paul is aiming for an update for Easter.
I'm not sure what will happen if you have the tables defined in the .cax files and in the new .calz files, might want to keep an eye on that.

Cheers,
Ross

this is excellent news. once again, this kind of outstanding service and understanding of the needs of the consumer is one of the top reasons why EFILive blows the competition away. thanks again Ross.

X2 on the question from Joecar, should we delete the Cax files after the next update?

hquick
April 7th, 2009, 10:58 AM
x3.
Was just about to ask that question.

GMPX
April 7th, 2009, 11:55 AM
I haven't looked at the .cax file additions you guys have done, there maybe more or less tables I am not sure. Plus didn't someone add in the Lean Cruise patch to the .cax files?
Maybe move the .cax files for now so the software doesn't see them, don't delete them yet.

Cheers,
Ross

5.7ute
April 7th, 2009, 02:01 PM
Great work Ross, good to see all the LS1 guys can now play with these tables.:rockon:
Thanks again to Mick who got those tables going for us in the cax files until they were officially implemented.:cheers:

joecar
April 7th, 2009, 02:15 PM
We do have the LC cax files separate.

Whippled 496
April 7th, 2009, 09:11 PM
We do have the LC cax files separate.

For the 2003+ 1mb PCMs? I didnt think there was a seperate LC patch for them. The Patch that MICK uploaded has the LC tables, but it also has the non-functional Transient Fuel tables. Is there a LC .CAX for the 1mb PCMs with no TF tables?

MICK
April 7th, 2009, 09:23 PM
ROCK AND ROLL BABY!!.....:)

Cheers

Mick

MICK
April 7th, 2009, 09:25 PM
For the 2003+ 1mb PCMs? I didnt think there was a seperate LC patch for them. The Patch that MICK uploaded has the LC tables, but it also has the non-functional Transient Fuel tables. Is there a LC .CAX for the 1mb PCMs with no TF tables?


I will fix that up for you....:)



Cheers

Mick

GMPX
April 7th, 2009, 09:53 PM
Remember the original LC patch .cax files that Richard posted here -
http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=9111

Cheers,
Ross

joecar
April 8th, 2009, 02:22 AM
Remember the original LC patch .cax files that Richard posted here -
http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=9111

Cheers,
RossThose are the ones.

Whippled 496
April 8th, 2009, 10:57 AM
I will fix that up for you....:)

Cheers

Mick

Sweet MICK!! Thanks Man.

There is some serious chatter out there about this new addition to the software......sounds like some HPT guys are fed up and jumping ship..:doh2: LOL.

There is plenty of room on this boat for you guys too!!

aaronr
April 9th, 2009, 01:28 AM
Will this work for the cos 3 as well??

GMPX
April 10th, 2009, 10:41 AM
The transient fuel tables update will cover from 98 to current LS1 OS's, including custom OS's.
We were going to release them before Easter but it all got a bit tight before we all headed away for a few days break. I had Emailed the updates to a few people prior to leaving, so by the time we are ready to release the update it will be well and truly tested.

Cheers,
Ross

GMPX
April 18th, 2009, 09:40 PM
This update has been release by the way, just do a check for new update next time you are on the internet and the new .calz files for the GenIII's will be downloaded.

Cheers,
Ross

hquick
April 19th, 2009, 04:29 PM
Thanks very much Ross.
Hey...in the .CAX files we have an impact factor modifier/multiplier. Is it poissible to have that implemented? It seems to be a very handy table and I've had a lot of success playing with it.

GMPX
April 19th, 2009, 10:59 PM
Yeah, give me a few years :grin:
I think I know what you mean, the 2D tables?

Cheers,
Ross

hquick
April 19th, 2009, 11:05 PM
Lol! Thanks Ross.
Yeah...the 2D tables.

hquick
April 19th, 2009, 11:17 PM
Here's some screen shots of what we have in the .CAX files (plus those you implemented)...as you said you hadn't seen them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/transient1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/transient2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/transient3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/transient4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/hquick/transient5.jpg

DrkPhx
August 3rd, 2009, 02:20 PM
Does this include the LS1 F-bodies? I just updated to V7.5.5 build 88 and I don't see the tables? Also what about the E40 ECM and LC?

joecar
August 3rd, 2009, 05:20 PM
For LS1 look under Fuel->Dynamics.