Flashscan data logging..

[waterbug1999]

I was told that it couldnt be done with the version I have, 7.5. Now I hear that its possible with the 8.1 version, im sure there are steps I have to take to upgrade. Is there a link to what steps need to be performed so I can do this?

I had a hell of a time making it work when I bought EFIlive due to Vista. I have never logged a run at the drag strip due to getting caught evertime with my lap top in my seat.. So, let me know if this is doable, Thanks.

[waterbug1999]

I found this.. Still same for Vista?

http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=8426

[joecar]

For Vista, you must be the Administrator (all privileges).

First install both V7.5 and V8.1 from www.efilive.com/downloads.

Then upgrade your V2 firmware to 2.04.72 from C:\Program Files\EFILive\V7.5.

Then read the readme.txt from C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8.1\...

Be sure to fully understand this readme.txt first before proceeding.

[joecar]

Be aware of this (you shouldn't have this trouble): showthread.php?t=8834 (http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=8834)

[waterbug1999]

For Vista, you must be the Administrator (all privileges).

First install both V7.5 and V8.1 from www.efilive.com/downloads.

Then upgrade your V2 firmware to 2.04.72 from C:\Program Files\EFILive\V7.5.

Then read the readme.txt from C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8.1\...

Be sure to fully understand this readme.txt first before proceeding.





I dont see why I shouldnt be, its my lap top. lol

Do I have to install the 7.5 if I all ready have it?

I can all ready tell I am going to screw this up. Is that suppose to be a clickable links?

[ScarabEpic22]

If you dont have the lastest build of 7.5.4.66 (actually .67, but dont worry about that one) installed then you need to download it again (or run the EFILive updater program).

Nope, those arent clickable. The first one is just the main page downloads section and the others are locations on your HD. :D

And even on my personal laptop running Vista Ultimate x64 as the only Admin I had to change the permissions, so double check that one.

[waterbug1999]

Mine says 7.5.3 (build 36).. So, ill start with that and update it.

[waterbug1999]

OK.. everything went good. Updated to the 7.5.4.66

[joecar]

OK.. everything went good. Updated to the 7.5.4.66Ok, now from C:\Program Files\EFILive\V7.5 flash firmware 2.04.72 into your V2.

Then when you finished that, install V8.1 onto your PC.

Then, re-read the readme.txt under C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8.1.

[waterbug1999]

What do you mean?? Here is where I am at.. I have the V2 scan tool plugged into the port.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive.jpg

[waterbug1999]

I tried to go to "upgrade bootblock" It asked to 2.5.04? and it said it couldn't so it asked to continue and I said no.

[waterbug1999]

well, after reading I thought I all ready had that version so I downloded the 8.1.. now what the hell I do? MY flashscan says "usb mode" and I dont know what to do.

[waterbug1999]

I give up.. I have the flashscan blinking yellow leds and im at this step and cant find it.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efffilive.jpg

[joecar]

Have you got 2.04.72 flashed in (steps 1-4 in the image you posted)...?

[joecar]

Do not flash 2.05.04.

[waterbug1999]

I click on both those and this is what is does.. So, I dont see what I am suppose to do.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive1.jpg

[waterbug1999]

Well, now its giving me this. I didnt execute to.2.05


http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive2.jpg

[waterbug1999]

ok.. i did something and it started updating.. I thinkits because I had the scan tool in dead pool mode I think is what you call it.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive3.jpg

[waterbug1999]

ok.. now I am right here but nothings going on.. The scan tool is just blinking 2 yellow LEDS so I am guessing its still in dead poll mode. But, I try to ubplug it, and plug it back in to get it out of dead poll mode and it just goes back to blinking. The directions say it needs to be out of this mode, but it just stays blinking.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive4.jpg

[waterbug1999]

I restarted it and its working.. Here is where I am at. But, its still in dead poll mode..

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive6.jpg

[waterbug1999]

Well, nothing is happening.. So, I redid it and I "unchecked" the bootlock and it gives an error $0023.. From searching it means file not found. Now what.

[waterbug1999]

ok.. i was in bootlock and not in firmware.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive6.jpg

[waterbug1999]

Now I am at this step.. I have to go to work, so ill check in later. Does everything look to be ok up to this point???

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive8.jpg

[joecar]

Yes that looks correct... did you also copy the Options.ini file...?

On the Firmware tab, what does it show for Bootblock Version and Firmware Version...?

[waterbug1999]

Yes that looks correct... did you also copy the Options.ini file...?

On the Firmware tab, what does it show for Bootblock Version and Firmware Version...?

Ill have to look at that later.. I work a 2nd shift so it will slow down enough for me to open my lap top and look.

[joecar]

Take your time, no worries.

[waterbug1999]

Take your time, no worries.

I was wanting to log my runs at the drag strip this Saturday and fine tune the car.. So, if I goofed up the install, I have plenty of time to fix it. As you can tell, I am not computer friendly and dont understand alot of this. lol

[waterbug1999]

Yes that looks correct... did you also copy the Options.ini file...?

On the Firmware tab, what does it show for Bootblock Version and Firmware Version...?

are you talking about here??


http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive9.jpg

[waterbug1999]

or here??

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilve10.jpg

[waterbug1999]

Yes that looks correct... did you also copy the Options.ini file...?

On the Firmware tab, what does it show for Bootblock Version and Firmware Version...?

where are these and how do I add them?? Im guessing I need these as I have no PIDs in the flashscan tool.

[joecar]

This is what I meant:

[joecar]

where are these and how do I add them?? Im guessing I need these as I have no PIDs in the flashscan tool.The Options.ini file is located at C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8.1\Programs...

Using EFILive Explorer (EE) drag that file from the upper pane (positioned on the folder C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8.1\Programs) to the lower pane (positioned on the Config Files tab).

[waterbug1999]

The Options.ini file is located at C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8.1\Programs...

Using EFILive Explorer (EE) drag that file from the upper pane (positioned on the folder C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8.1\Programs) to the lower pane (positioned on the Config Files tab).

Good to go... Now what? I dont understand what it means to format anything.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive11.jpg

[joecar]

Good to go... Now what? I dont understand what it means to format anything.

Goto the Scan Data tab and press Format.

The Scan space is disctinct from the Config space.

On the V2 setup options (navigate to there using the V2 keypad/LCD), you can set the Scan space to be either the external SD memory card or internal flash.

Do you have an SD card...?

[waterbug1999]

Goto the Scan Data tab and press Format.

The Scan space is disctinct from the Config space.

On the V2 setup options (navigate to there using the V2 keypad/LCD), you can set the Scan space to be either the external SD memory card or internal flash.

Do you have an SD card...?

In the EE / config files left corner "format" button?

[joecar]

In the EE / config files left corner "format" button?No... oops... I meant on the V2...

1. On the V2 navigate to here: Options->Setup->Edit Settings->File Sys and select internal or SD card;

2. On the V2 navigate to here: File System->Format File Sys and do the format.

This formats the file system you selected in step 1.

[waterbug1999]

ok.. its formatting now. :-)

[waterbug1999]

So, its done with the formatting. So, is this as far as I can go until I get it in the car?

[waterbug1999]

I go into V2 to select PIDs and nothing. Am I suppose to set something up in the EE for it?

[joecar]

I go into V2 to select PIDs and nothing. Am I suppose to set something up in the EE for it?Did you get it going...?

[waterbug1999]

Did you get it going...?

I have to assign the PIDs while its plugged into the car right?

[waterbug1999]

Another question, I have an LC1 hard wired in with a AF gauge, I see there is the plug in for the phone looking cord in the V2, does the other end plug into the LC1 somewhere?

http://forum.efilive.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3341&d=1211430175

[joecar]

I have to assign the PIDs while its plugged into the car right?Yes, connect to car, then select the pid list, and then start logging.

[joecar]

You need the LC-1 serial cable and the FlashScan serial cable, with a null-moden adapter between them.

The LC-1 has a SERIAL OUT cable which takes the stereo jack;
The LC-1 also has a SERIAL IN which takes the terminator plug.

[joecar]

Join the LC-1 serial cable to the FlashScan serial cable using this: http://www.sfcable.com/cable/p/30D1-C1-S.html

or buy a ready made cable from TAQuickness.

[waterbug1999]

Well, a buddy came over last weekend with his hptuners (still learning how to tune with my EFIlive). We hooked up the LC-1 to his HPTuners using the brown wire off the LC-1 and a ground I tagged into the floorboard, both those wires screwed into a 6 or 8 prong connection that he plugged into his hptuners so we can get AF ratios... So, it looks like it will fit into the bottom of the V2.. Do you know what I am reffering too?

[joecar]

Well, a buddy came over last weekend with his hptuners (still learning how to tune with my EFIlive). We hooked up the LC-1 to his HPTuners using the brown wire off the LC-1 and a ground I tagged into the floorboard, both those wires screwed into a 6 or 8 prong connection that he plugged into his hptuners so we can get AF ratios... So, it looks like it will fit into the bottom of the V2.. Do you know what I am reffering too?You mean these two pins (see attached)...

to see the analog inputs, you have to enable the external analog inputs in the V2 options (from the V2 keypad/LCD).

[joecar]

Join the LC-1 serial cable to the FlashScan serial cable using this: http://www.sfcable.com/cable/p/30D1-C1-S.html

or buy a ready made cable from TAQuickness.This uses the wideband's serial output... this is different than using the V2's analog inputs shown in the previous post.

Your LC-1 came with cable that has a DB-9 on one end... you can see it in the pic: "LC-1 Serial Cable"...

the stereo jack plugs into the SERIAL OUT cable on the LC-1.

TAQuickness sells a cable that is already made up (no need for null-modem adapter).

Using the null-modem adapter I showed earlier makes connecting LC-1 -> V2 a snap, much easier than analog.

[waterbug1999]

You mean these two pins (see attached)...

to see the analog inputs, you have to enable the external analog inputs in the V2 options (from the V2 keypad/LCD).

will this work as good as any other?

Also, I took the 1meg memory out of my camera and put that in the V2.. Do I need more memory or should I just buy a bigger one and put it in the V2?

[ForcedTQ]

will this work as good as any other?

Also, I took the 1meg memory out of my camera and put that in the V2.. Do I need more memory or should I just buy a bigger one and put it in the V2?

1 Meg or 1 Gig, if 1 Gig it will be plenty, 1 Meg not so much. :grin:

[waterbug1999]

Yea.. my bad its a 1g.

[joecar]

will this work as good as any other?

Also, I took the 1meg memory out of my camera and put that in the V2.. Do I need more memory or should I just buy a bigger one and put it in the V2?On V2's display, the analog inputs will show voltage only... not AFR...

But, in the scantool, you will see the AFR (after you select the CALC.AFC_xxx pid).

This will be ok if you have zero ground offset... otherwise the serial input (using the null-moden adapter between the two cables) is best.

[joecar]

1GB is plenty.

[waterbug1999]

Thanks.. Im pulling the car out of my storage tomorrow so I will try the V2 data logger and see how it works at the track on Saturday.

[waterbug1999]

well, im in the car now and its says on the V2 "passthru active".. um, now what? How do I load up the different PIDs i want scan / then upload?

[waterbug1999]

did i lose all my stuff?

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/Untitled-2.jpg

[ScarabEpic22]

You cant have the V7.5 tune or scan tool open when using EFILive Explorer, exit from them and hit refresh in EFILive Explorer.

[waterbug1999]

same shit...

[waterbug1999]

ok.. its all back.. Im sitting in the garage with the V2 in the lab top. How do I pick what PIDs and how to send them into the V2?

I thought I had to have it hooked up in the car to to do it??

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/Untitled1.jpg

[waterbug1999]

On V2's display, the analog inputs will show voltage only... not AFR...

But, in the scantool, you will see the AFR (after you select the CALC.AFC_xxx pid).

This will be ok if you have zero ground offset... otherwise the serial input (using the null-moden adapter between the two cables) is best.


And where do you find the PIDs? Alls I see are the descriptions in the EE under documentation.

[joecar]

Do you see the Options.ini file under either of these places:
C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8.1\Programs
C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8.1\Config

Drag the Options.ini from the upper pane (one of those 2 folders) to to lower pane (Config Files tab).

Once you have done that you are ready to log (disconnect laptop, restart V2, on V2 select the PCM that is for your WS6 (LS1B_A for A4, LS1B_M for M6).

PM your phone #.

[waterbug1999]

I believe its all read done.. i just dont understand how to get it to the V2.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/Untitled3.jpg

[waterbug1999]

Here ya go..

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/Untitled4.jpg

[waterbug1999]

here ya go..

[joecar]

Jody,

Save the contents of the .zip and drag it to the Config Files tab under EE.

This Options.ini has 5 example pid lists for LS1B_A (LS1B = 1999+ LS1, A = A4).

When you goto "Select PIDs" on the V2 menu, you will see those 5 pid lists.

[waterbug1999]

You are the man!!! Thanks a bunch!

[joecar]

To do serial AFR logging from the LC-1, see this pic:

http://forum.efilive.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4046&d=1224114427

You need to join those 2 cables using the null-modem adapter shown, or you can buy an LC-1 serial cable from TAQuickness;

The stereo jack plugs into the LC-1's SERIAL OUT cable.

This will allow you to display the wideband AFR as a pid on your V2 LCD.

[waterbug1999]

I have a wideband in the car so I can see the AF... But, I think you said it will just show Volts correct? But, once uploaded, it will turn into AF on the efilive "tune"?

[joecar]

If your wideband is connected to V2 via analog (LC-1 brown signal wire, white/green ground wire), then you will only see the voltage on the V2 LCD (you will see the AFR when you view using the ScanTool).

[joecar]

Hmmm.... maybe I can edit this into the Options.ini file...

Do you use the pid CALC.AFR_LC11...?

[waterbug1999]

If your wideband is connected to V2 via analog (LC-1 brown signal wire, white/green ground wire), then you will only see the voltage on the V2 LCD (you will see the AFR when you view using the ScanTool).

They way it is now, is just brown for + and a ground I zipped into the floorboard (took the paint off of coarse) and called it -.

[waterbug1999]

Hmmm.... maybe I can edit this into the Options.ini file...

Do you use the pid CALC.AFR_LC11...?

Oh no, I dont know what that means?

[joecar]

Oh no, I dont know what that means?Post one of your log files (use the Manage Attachments button)...

If your LC-1 is set to default, then in the EFILive software scantool you would be using the pid CALC.AFR_LC11.

[joecar]

Jody, and others using the LC-1,

Try this Options.ini for displaying LC-1 standard default analog AFR...

First open the .zip file and save the .ini to your hard disk (overwrite your old Options.ini);
then using EE drag the new Options.ini to the Config Files tab, overwriting the old file.

On the V2, go into Edit Settings... and set A/D Pids to Yes.

Then during logging (pids are shown updating on the V2 LCD), scroll down to the bottom, you will see AD1 and AD2...
press the Enter key and AD1 and AD2 will change to AFR_WB1 and AFR_WB2...

-->> I haven't tried it yet, so let me know if it works or not.

Cheers
Joe
:cheers:

[waterbug1999]

the V2 and everything else is in the car and ready for a trial run tomorrow.. The lap top will join that stuff pretty soon as well.

Joecar, thanks a lot oh wise one! ill post up tomorrow and let ya know if I ran into any problems.

[waterbug1999]

Ended up getting a personal best at 10.71 @ 126 and a 10.77 @ 126. Here are a couple of vids.. I logged, or think I did log 2 N20 runs. How do I retrieve them again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmNpy2rHi3s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ2jtECCb6w

[waterbug1999]

Isnt that the log?? I forgot what you told me on Friday..

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilivepicss.jpg

[joecar]

Good ET...:cheers:

Goto the Scan Files tab, the log should be there (filename looks like BBLxxxx.efi)...
drag the .efi file(s) up to the top pane (first select the folder in the top pane).

[waterbug1999]

I dont see anything...

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/scanlog.jpg

[waterbug1999]

ok.. i got it. it wasnt recognizing the SD card was present. I had to pop it out, then put it back in then a refresh. And it reads it now.

[waterbug1999]

Now I have this issue. I put it in the "log" file we/i made from Friday right? Then open it with the scan efilive software right? But, it gives me access denied.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilivedata.jpg

[joecar]

Save it to a folder under My Documents or Documents (from the desktop) instead of under Program Files...

e.g.
Desktop->Documents->EFILive->V8->Logs
or
Desktop->My Documents->EFILive->V8->Logs

(whatever the documents folder is named as on your desktop)

Vista doesn't give you permission to write files to the Program Files folder.

[waterbug1999]

Save it to a folder under My Documents or Documents (from the desktop) instead of under Program Files...

e.g.
Desktop->Documents->EFILive->V8->Logs
or
Desktop->My Documents->EFILive->V8->Logs

(whatever the documents folder is named as on your desktop)

Vista doesn't give you permission to write files to the Program Files folder.


The V8 is not an option, only the 7.5 shows up.

[joecar]

The V8 is not an option, only the 7.5 shows up.Use Windows Explorer to open a folder on Documents\EFILive and create a new folder V8 and then create a new folder Logs under V8.

[waterbug1999]

like this???

[joecar]

Yes, that's right...


Now in EE, click on the Scan Files tab, and in the upper pane browse to that new LOGS folder, and drag the BBLxxxx.efi files up to it.

[waterbug1999]

Gotcha... Im at work now, so I will have to try it when everyone leaves, as I dont get out of here till after midnight.

[waterbug1999]

I got it to work, YEA!!

Now, I need to get into the file and change the PIDS.

[joecar]

So you can open the log file and view it ok...? :cheers: ... post your log file or a screenshot of it.

Edit Options.ini... but remember:
- spell the pid names correctly,
- observe punctuation (commas between items on a line),
- some pids take 1 channel and other pids take 2 channels...

In the ScanTool, goto the PIDs tab, click on the column heading Caption (so it sorts alphabetically), and look up each pid's channel count... you have to keep the total channel count less-than-or-equal to 24 for BBL.

[waterbug1999]

Here is the file, if I did it right.

These were just the default PID's that were under A-> IBPW F1 in the V2. Ill try and change them up.. I have plenty of time as ALL the tracks closed up here.

[waterbug1999]

well, after playing around with it, I can change the pids in this screen.. So, I guess it will let you change whatever was logged, which I am assuming 24pid's that were set under the default "A" IBPW F1 . pretty cool.

*PSL_A
;
;Node PIDs (pid1|pid2|...|pidn) Alarm (min:max:style:time*10ms:hold*sec)
;---- -------------------------- -----------------------------------------
PCM, RPM
PCM, VSS
PCM, TP
PCM, MAP
PCM, MAF
PCM, ECT, -40:110:97:1:0
PCM, IAT
PCM, SPARKADV
PCM, KR, 0:2:147:1:0
PCM, GEAR
PCM, TCCMODE
PCM, EQIVRATIO
PCM, IBPW1
PCM, IBPW2
PCM, LONGFT1
PCM, LONGFT2
PCM, HO2S11
PCM, HO2S21
PCM, MFTOTAL

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/logdata.jpg

[joecar]

Something went wrong with your 2-3 upshift... it went 2-3-4 instead of 2-3 and then 3-4...

[joecar]

well, after playing around with it, I can change the pids in this screen.. So, I guess it will let you change whatever was logged, which I am assuming 24pid's that were set under the default "A" IBPW F1 . pretty cool.

*PSL_A
;
;Node PIDs (pid1|pid2|...|pidn) Alarm (min:max:style:time*10ms:hold*sec)
;---- -------------------------- -----------------------------------------
PCM, RPM
PCM, VSS
PCM, TP
PCM, MAP
PCM, MAF
PCM, ECT, -40:110:97:1:0
PCM, IAT
PCM, SPARKADV
PCM, KR, 0:2:147:1:0
PCM, GEAR
PCM, TCCMODE
PCM, EQIVRATIO
PCM, IBPW1
PCM, IBPW2
PCM, LONGFT1
PCM, LONGFT2
PCM, HO2S11
PCM, HO2S21
PCM, MFTOTAL



Change EQIVRATIO to AFR under PSL_A in the Options.ini file, and drag it to the Config Files folder (using EE)... those are 2 channels each.

You can leave the others alone since you want to log those.

[joecar]

Good job...:cheers:

[joecar]

Like this (also attached)...




; __________________________________________________ _____________________
; | |
; | Copyright © 1999-2007 |
; | EFILive Limited |
; | web: http://www.efilive.com |
; | email: info@efilive.com |
; |_________________________________________________ ______________________|
;
; Modifications
; __________________________________________________ _______________________
; Version | When | Who | Why
; __________________________________________________ _______________________
; 8.0 | 2007-Feb-16 | PSB | Created file
; __________________________________________________ _______________________
;
; __________________________________________________ _______________________
*PID_SELECTIONS
;
;PID selection list
;-------------------
;
; Cap1 and Cap2 form the "on-screen" display option from which the user may select.
; Controllers lists 1 or 2 "&" seperated pid memory map (*.pmm) files.
; PSL is the PID Selection defined later in this file
; PCU is the PID Custom Units defined later in this file
; Hot Key is a number between 1 and 4 (inclusive) that indicates the Ctrl+function key
; that can be used to "quick select" the PId selection.
;
;Cap1 Cap2 Controllers (Engine&Trans) PSL PCU Hot Key (Ctrl+Fx)
;------- -------- -------------------------- ---------- -------- -----------------
A->, IBPW, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_A, PCU, 1
B->, O2S, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_B, PCU, 2
C->, CAT, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_C, PCU
D->, LOOP, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_D, PCU, 3
E->, TRANS, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_E, PCU, 4

; __________________________________________________ _______________________
;
; PID Selection List
; ----------------------
;
; Node: Is one of PCM, ECM or TCM (use "-" for external PIDs).
; PCM = Powertran controller, engine and trans combined into one controller.
; ECM = Dedicated engine controller only.
; TCM = Dedicated transmission controller only.
;
; If you are unsure whether to use ECM or PCM, use PCM. PCM will match both ECM and PCM.
; The Node specified from which controller the PID will be retrieved.
; i.e. ECM-RPM v's TCM-RPM.
;
; PIDs: Is one or more "|" seperated PID names. The first valid PID will be used.
; Alarm: Is 5 ":" seperated fields:
; min: Minimum value, below which the alarm will sound.
; max: Maximum value, above which the alarm will sound.
; style: Is one of:
; 0 = No sound, No LEDs
; 1 = Low pitch
; 2 = Medium Pitch
; 3 = High Pitch
; 4 = Very high Pitch
; 8 = Illuminate LED 1
; 16 = Illuminate LED 2
; 32 = Illuminate LED 3
; 64 = Illuminate LED 4
; 128 = Illuminate LED 5
; Add Pitch and LED values together to enable audio and visual alarms.
; For example, for Medium Pitch and LED 4, use 2+64 = 66
; time: Time (in 10ms increments) for which alarm will be sounded.
; hold: Time (in seconds) for which the displayed value will be frozen (not implemented yet).
;
; __________________________________________________ _______________________
*PSL_A
;
;Node PIDs (pid1|pid2|...|pidn) Alarm (min:max:style:time*10ms:hold*sec)
;---- -------------------------- -----------------------------------------
PCM, RPM
PCM, VSS
PCM, TP
PCM, MAP
PCM, MAF
PCM, ECT, -40:110:97:1:0
PCM, IAT
PCM, SPARKADV
PCM, KR, 0:2:147:1:0
PCM, GEAR
PCM, TCCMODE
PCM, AFR
PCM, IBPW1
PCM, IBPW2
PCM, LONGFT1
PCM, LONGFT2
PCM, HO2S11
PCM, HO2S21
PCM, MFTOTAL

; __________________________________________________ _______________________
*PSL_B
;
;Node PIDs (pid1|pid2|...|pidn) Alarm (min:max:style:time*10ms:hold*sec)
;---- -------------------------- -----------------------------------------
PCM, RPM
PCM, VSS
PCM, TP
PCM, MAP
PCM, MAF
PCM, ECT, -40:110:97:1:0
PCM, IAT
PCM, SPARKADV
PCM, KR, 0:2:147:1:0
PCM, GEAR
PCM, TCCMODE
PCM, AFR
PCM, LONGFT1
PCM, LONGFT2
PCM, SHRTFT1
PCM, SHRTFT2
PCM, HO2S11
PCM, HO2S21
PCM, HO2S12
PCM, HO2S22
PCM, MFTOTAL

; __________________________________________________ _______________________
*PSL_C
;
;Node PIDs (pid1|pid2|...|pidn) Alarm (min:max:style:time*10ms:hold*sec)
;---- -------------------------- -----------------------------------------
PCM, RPM
PCM, VSS
PCM, TP
PCM, MAP
PCM, MAF
PCM, ECT, -40:110:97:1:0
PCM, IAT
PCM, SPARKADV
PCM, EQIVRATIO
PCM, IBPW1
PCM, IBPW2
PCM, LONGFT1
PCM, LONGFT2
PCM, SHRTFT1
PCM, SHRTFT2
PCM, HO2S11
PCM, HO2S21
PCM, HO2S12
PCM, HO2S22

; __________________________________________________ _______________________
*PSL_D
;
;Node PIDs (pid1|pid2|...|pidn) Alarm (min:max:style:time*10ms:hold*sec)
;---- -------------------------- -----------------------------------------
PCM, RPM
PCM, VSS
PCM, TP
PCM, MAP
PCM, MAF
PCM, ECT, -40:110:97:1:0
PCM, IAT
PCM, SPARKADV
PCM, KR, 0:2:147:1:0
PCM, GEAR
PCM, TCCMODE
PCM, EQIVRATIO
PCM, FTC
PCM, FUELSYS
PCM, LONGFT1
PCM, LONGFT2
PCM, SHRTFT1
PCM, SHRTFT2
PCM, HO2S11
PCM, HO2S21

; __________________________________________________ _______________________
*PSL_E
;
;Node PIDs (pid1|pid2|...|pidn) Alarm (min:max:style:time*10ms:hold*sec)
;---- -------------------------- -----------------------------------------
PCM, RPM
PCM, VSS
PCM, TP
PCM, MAP
PCM, MAF
PCM, DYNCYLAIR_M
PCM, ECT, -40:110:97:1:0
PCM, IAT
PCM, SPARKADV
PCM, KR, 0:2:147:1:0
PCM, GEAR
PCM, TCCMODE
PCM, SHIFTLAST
PCM, TFMPRS
PCM, TRQENG
PCM, EQIVRATIO
PCM, LONGFT1
PCM, LONGFT2
PCM, MFTOTAL

; __________________________________________________ _______________________
;
; PID Custom Units
; ----------------------
;
; PCU specifies the controller and PID for which to define a custom unit
; Caption is the caption displayed on screen during BB logging (8 characters maximum).
; Prec is the number of decimal places to display
; Units is the display units name.
; Op is the operator, one of:
; * = multiply
; / = divide
; i = invert_then_multiply
; The metric value of the PID is multiplied, divided or inverted then multiplied by Factor.
; Offset is then added.
;
; __________________________________________________ _______________________
*PCU
;
; PID Caption Prec Units Op Factor Offset
; ---------- -------- ----- ----- -- ------------- -------------
PCM,MAF, AirFlow, 1, lb/m, /, 7.559873,
PCM,MAP, Manifold, 1, psi, /, 6.894757,
PCM,TFMPRS, Trans, 1, psi, /, 6.894757,
PCM,TRQENG, Torque, 1, ftlb, /, 1.355818,
PCM,VSS, Speed, 0, MPH, /, 1.609344,
PCM,EQIVRATIO, AFR, 3, AFR, i, 14.63,
PCM,ECT, Coolant, 0, °F, *, 1.8, 32.0
PCM,IAT, Intake, 0, °F, *, 1.8, 32.0
-, T1, T1, 0, °F, *, 1.8, 32.0
-, T2, T2, 0, °F, *, 1.8, 32.0
-, AD1, AFR_WB1, 3, AFR, *, 3.0, 7.35
-, AD2, AFR_WB2, 3, AFR, *, 3.0, 7.35

; __________________________________________________ _______________________
*SW_DSL
;
;Switchable tune list for Duramax Diesels
;----------------------------------------
;
;Description (not more than 16 characters)
;-----------------------------------------
Stock Tune
Smokeless
Economy
Power
Towing

; __________________________________________________ _______________________
*SW_GAS
;
;Switchable tune list for E38 gas vehicles
;-----------------------------------------
;
;Description (not more than 16 characters)
;-----------------------------------------
Stock Tune
Valet Mode
Bad Fuel Mode
NOS Mode
Not Used

[waterbug1999]

Something went wrong with your 2-3 upshift... it went 2-3-4 instead of 2-3 and then 2-4...

Yea.. DRKPHX and I were looking at that and cant figure out why we cant find a shift. We see the one at ~69mph but there should be another one somewhere.

[waterbug1999]

Change EQIVRATIO to AFR under PSL_A in the Options.ini file, and drag it to the Config Files folder (using EE)... those are 2 channels each.

You can leave the others alone since you want to log those.

I just ordered the cable "sLC1".. So, when i get that I will prolly need to figure out how to change the settings again.

[joecar]

I just ordered the cable "sLC1".. So, when i get that I will prolly need to figure out how to change the settings again.When you connect the sLC1 cable, on the V2 go into the options menu and do this:
- enable SerPIDs,
- set the wideband in/out type to Innovate.

Let me know when you have the cable.

[waterbug1999]

Sweet.. Thanks again.

If you were in the neighborhood, I would buy you a beer for all the this help. Thanks again.

[joecar]

Jody,

Try this Options.ini file... I edited some of the pids to better suit your purpose.

Cheers
Joe

[waterbug1999]

Ill have to do it this weekend...

Im at work and on my work computer. What do I need to download in order to view my logged run?

I downloaded the new 7.5 and tried to open the file from the web and its wanting my VIn and all that data.. Cant I just get something to view the logged run?

[joecar]

To view your log, you have to install the software...

Didn't you memorize your VIN... (lol... :hihi:)...?

[joecar]

If you look at one of the log pictures you posted, you will see that your VIN is 2G2FV22G9x2xxxxxx... if you enter that much, the scantool will be happy.

[waterbug1999]

ugg.. I dont see it.

I would look at my Ins card but its in the car and the car is back in storage.

[waterbug1999]

I got it to work.. But Joe, is this data accurate?? I dont see how my car can actually shift like this and still run a 10.7 pass... What gives?

[joecar]

It means you should be able to run high 9's or very low 10's.

[joecar]

Something went wrong with your 2-3 upshift... it went 2-3-4 instead of 2-3 and then 3-4...

I got it to work.. But Joe, is this data accurate?? I dont see how my car can actually shift like this and still run a 10.7 pass... What gives?

It means you should be able to run high 9's or very low 10's.

It blew right by 3rd gear and straight into 4th... and it looks like it lugged in 4th (RPM did not rise significantly any more).

You might want to look at your WOT upshift MPH tables vs the WOT downshift MPH tables...
the 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 MPH values have to be sequenced in increasing manner, and
the downshift MPH has to be lower than the corresponding upshift MPH.

If it's ok, then post it if you want a review of it by many eyes... ;)


http://forum.efilive.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4095&d=1224566515

[joecar]

Set up your V2 with the Options.ini from post #100: showpost.php?p=81022&postcount=100 (http://forum.efilive.com/showpost.php?p=81022&postcount=100)

This includes AFR (instead of EQIVRATIO) and DYNCYLAIR_DMA (useful for analyzing timing table).

[waterbug1999]

Would you happen to know what table/s that is?

[waterbug1999]

Set up your V2 with the Options.ini from post #100: showpost.php?p=81022&postcount=100 (http://forum.efilive.com/showpost.php?p=81022&postcount=100)

This includes AFR (instead of EQIVRATIO) and DYNCYLAIR_DMA (useful for analyzing timing table).

The V2 is at home and I am at work.

[joecar]

You mean the timing tables..?

B5913 and B5914.

[waterbug1999]

This one??

we just changed them all to 6600, which is where I have it shift at supposedly.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive1-1.jpg

[waterbug1999]

You mean the timing tables..?

B5913 and B5914.

Are those the tables you were wanting on post #107?

[waterbug1999]

im looking at this...

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/wotshiftspeed.jpg

[joecar]

Also show Shift At VSS->Downshift->Parameters.

[joecar]

I bet your WOT 2->3 D0915 is less than WOT 3->2 D0930...

This would mean that it never shifts WOT 2->3 but jumps on to 4th.

I can see why your WOT MPH upshift points are all low, you're trying to control WOT upshift using RPM only...

This is fine, but the each WOT upshift point has to be higher than the corresponding WOT downshift point.

[waterbug1999]

Also show Shift At VSS->Downshift->Parameters.

This?/

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/vss.jpg

[waterbug1999]

I bet your WOT 2->3 D0915 is less than WOT 3->2 D0930...

This would mean that it never shifts WOT 2->3 but jumps on to 4th.

I can see why your WOT MPH upshift points are all low, you're trying to control WOT upshift using RPM only...

This is fine, but the each WOT upshift point has to be higher than the corresponding WOT downshift point.


thats was the logic... To just use RPM only and take out the other variable.

[waterbug1999]

Jody,

Try this Options.ini file... I edited some of the pids to better suit your purpose.

Cheers
Joe

i opened it up and replaced it with the "option" one that was in there. You want me to use the 1st one right?

A->, IBPW, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_A, PCU, 1

[joecar]

i opened it up and replaced it with the "option" one that was in there. You want me to use the 1st one right?

A->, IBPW, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_A, PCU, 1Have a look at the pids in each of the 5 lists... print them out... and use whichever is suitable at the moment you need to log.

[waterbug1999]

Cool, thanks.. Is there a link somewhere to see what all the different abbreviations stand for? Like MFTOTAL.. Dont know what that does/is.

Also, I got the cable ordered, do I have to add that to the "options" thing to get the wideband AF to show up??

[joecar]

MFTOTAL is the Misfire Total... this is the running count of misfires for the current 200 rev cycle of misfire detection.

[joecar]

Your log shows your 1->2 WOT shift at 3.1-7.5 mph...

I think you can't set the WOT MPH values that low and all equal...

You have to spread them out a little, and make them in seqeunce...
i.e. in this order (increasing mph as you read down the list):
WOT 2->1
WOT 1->2
WOT 3->2
WOT 2->3
WOT 4->3
WOT 3->4

with each downshift being at least 5 mph lower than the corresponding upshift.

We have to analyze your log again so we can set those higher and still allow the rpm to control the upshifts.

[joecar]

Show me your Kickdown Throttle tables.

[waterbug1999]

Here is the tune..

[joecar]

Jody, what stall is you converter...?

[joecar]

Jody, I took the liberty of modifying your calibration file...

Open it with the tunetool and compare with the file you posted (see images for diffing instructions).

[waterbug1999]

Jody, what stall is you converter...?

Its a 4K stall from Fuddle. With a 2.4 STR.. Its not the best of converters.

[waterbug1999]

Jody, I took the liberty of modifying your calibration file...

Open it with the tunetool and compare with the file you posted (see images for diffing instructions).

Ok... That will tell me what files/graphs/tables were tweaked?

Im still in the learning curve (more like at the bottom of it) for me and so I can see what you did and how the car responds can only help me in my quest to understand. Sweet.

[waterbug1999]

I found a "history" tab up top and scolled down. So, you want mt to try this tune and see how it performs?

Oct 22, 2008 13:19:00


Engine Calibration.Fuel.DFCO
{B3308} DFCO M6 Enable Temp, changed from "284" to "284".

Transmission Calibration.Trans Pressures
{D0701} Base Pressure 1->2 Shift, modified.
{D0702} Base Pressure 2->3 Shift, modified.
{D0703} Base Pressure 3->4 Shift, modified.
__________________________________________________ ______________________________

Oct 22, 2008 13:23:18


Transmission Calibration.Throttle Kickdown
{D0962} 4->3 Throttle Kickdown, modified.
__________________________________________________ ______________________________

Oct 22, 2008 13:33:18


Transmission Calibration.Shift at VSS.Upshift
{D0910} WOT 1->2 Shift Speeds, Normal, changed.
{D0911} WOT 1->2 Shift Speeds, Performance, changed.
{D0912} WOT 1->2 Shift Speeds, Hot, changed.
{D0915} WOT 2->3 Shift Speeds, Normal, changed.
{D0916} WOT 2->3 Shift Speeds, Performance, changed.
{D0917} WOT 2->3 Shift Speeds, Hot, changed.
{D0920} WOT 3->4 Shift Speeds, Normal, changed.
{D0921} WOT 3->4 Shift Speeds, Performance, changed.
{D0922} WOT 3->4 Shift Speeds, Hot, changed.

Transmission Calibration.Shift at VSS.Downshift
{D0925} WOT 2->1 Shift Speeds, Normal, changed.
{D0926} WOT 2->1 Shift Speeds, Performance, changed.
{D0927} WOT 2->1 Shift Speeds, Hot, changed.
{D0966} WOT 2->1 Shift Speeds, 4WD Low, changed.
{D0930} WOT 3->2 Shift Speeds, Normal, changed.
{D0931} WOT 3->2 Shift Speeds, Performance, changed.
{D0932} WOT 3->2 Shift Speeds, Hot, changed.
{D0967} WOT 3->2 Shift Speeds, 4WD Low, changed.
{D0935} WOT 4->3 Shift Speeds, Normal, changed.
{D0936} WOT 4->3 Shift Speeds, Performance, changed.
{D0937} WOT 4->3 Shift Speeds, Hot, changed.
{D0968} WOT 4->3 Shift Speeds, 4WD Low, changed.
__________________________________________________ ______________________________

Oct 22, 2008 13:49:29


Transmission Calibration.Desired Shift Times
{D1108} Desired 1-2 Shift Times, modified.
{D1109} Desired 2-3 Shift Times, modified.
{D1110} Desired 3-4 Shift Times, modified.

Transmission Calibration.Trans Pressures
{D0701} Base Pressure 1->2 Shift, modified.
{D0702} Base Pressure 2->3 Shift, modified.
{D0703} Base Pressure 3->4 Shift, modified.
__________________________________________________ ______________________________

Oct 22, 2008 13:59:00


Transmission Calibration.Torque Reduction.Upshift
{D0801} Torque Reduction 1->2 Shift, modified.
{D0802} Torque Reduction 2->3 Shift, modified.
{D0803} Torque Reduction 3->4 Shift, modified.
_____________________________________________

[joecar]

Yes, try that tune...

in the tunetool, go:
Edit->Properties->Options
and click on Calibraion - Alternate (i.e. the one on the right),
click OK.


To see the differences, open the tune file, then go like this:
File->Load Alternate Calibration For Comparision
and browse to the old file;

Then do:
File->Display Calibration Difference Summary...
You can now click on any difference and it takes you to that table.

(Or see the 2 buttons circled in red in the image below)

While viewing the table, these 5 buttons circled in red let you see the new table, the old table,
the +/- difference, the % difference, and the absolute % difference:

http://forum.efilive.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4115&d=1224710204

[waterbug1999]

I dont have the stock trans either.. I have a vaccum modulated trans, its still a 4l60e so some of those might not make a difference. I think the shift times are contolled from vaccum now.

[joecar]

Oh, I see, ignore these changes:

Transmission Calibration.Desired Shift Times
{D1108} Desired 1-2 Shift Times, modified.
{D1109} Desired 2-3 Shift Times, modified.
{D1110} Desired 3-4 Shift Times, modified.

Transmission Calibration.Trans Pressures
{D0701} Base Pressure 1->2 Shift, modified.
{D0702} Base Pressure 2->3 Shift, modified.
{D0703} Base Pressure 3->4 Shift, modified.

Transmission Calibration.Torque Reduction.Upshift
{D0801} Torque Reduction 1->2 Shift, modified.
{D0802} Torque Reduction 2->3 Shift, modified.
{D0803} Torque Reduction 3->4 Shift, modified.

[joecar]

Make sure to set all the throttle kickdowns to 100%.


Set the WOT up/down shift MPH values as shown in the _0002 tune file...

if it's not doing a particular shift, lower the WOT upshift MPH,
make the corresponding WOT downshift MPH lower than the upshift,
make sure nether of these goes below the parameters for the previous shift.

you may still have to experiment at the track and fine tune the WOT RPMs.

[waterbug1999]

OK...


Let me ask you this, whats the pros and cons for having it like we had it? Is having teh proper gear show up in the logged data really that important?

You know why we turned the MPH down, so we can just tune by RPM and take out the extra variable. I know the car did not shift like what EFILIVE is showing at the track. If it did do that then there is no way I would have been able to run 10.70's.

[joecar]

Yeah, I find hard to believe you pulled most of the run in 2nd gear...

In a vac.mod. trans the PCM still controls the solenoids for shifting...
when you run, are you aware of each shift hitting (can you say for certain that it's not doing what the log shows...?

Hmmm.... (I'll have to get a picture of me scratching my head...)...

[waterbug1999]

Yeah, I find hard to believe you pulled most of the run in 2nd gear...

In a vac.mod. trans the PCM still controls the solenoids for shifting...
when you run, are you aware of each shift hitting (can you say for certain that it's not doing what the log shows...?

Hmmm.... (I'll have to get a picture of me scratching my head...)...

LOL... Its hard to tell its shifting (sound or feel wise) due to the shift extensions on the spray are very little.. The converter is not the best, so I am probably on the border of just blowing thru it.

I need to get a log NA and see how that looks.. I know when I have the cut outs closed, I can hear it, but I always race with them open..
I know for certain that if the car did act like the data suggests, it would have not ran 10.7's. More like a 15 and or a serious N20 backfire.

[joecar]

Are you sure your car can't run low 9's...? :D :D :D

[waterbug1999]

I wish...lol

I am looking into a trans brake and a stand alone fuel system for N20 so I can run a high octane without breaking the bank. Then low 10's might be possible. Its a long winter up here so plenty of time to save up some money.

[waterbug1999]

Hey Joecar, whats up?? Well, the snow is gone and the cars are coming out. So, everything you tought me last year I have forgot now. LOL

Hey, I bought that wideband connection going from my LC-1 to the flashscan, I remember there being two outlets on it. Which one do I plug it in to?

[joecar]

Hey Jody,

How's it going...?

Your LC-1 has power when the motor is running, right...?
Do a heater calibration and a free air calibration.

First do this:
- connect V2 to your PC and start EFILive Explorer (EE);
- on the bottom pane of EE, click on the FIrmware tab;
- it should show the versions of firmware and bootblock, tell me what they say.

Connect your wideband serial AFR cable from the LC-1 SERIAL OUT port to the RJ12 port on the top edge of V2 next to the USB port.
Plug the stereo terminator plug into the LC-1 SERIAL IN port.
Then you have to enable serial afr pids in the V2 setup options (navigate down into there from the V2 LCD/keypad).
You will then be able to talk to your LC-1 from V2 (to do a free air calibration, and to read the AFR and LC-1 status).

Send me your Options.ini file, it has now changed to Options.txt, I can transcibe the pids over.

Cheers,
Joe

[waterbug1999]

Hey Jody,

How's it going...?

Your LC-1 has power when the motor is running, right...?
Do a heater calibration and a free air calibration.

First do this:
- connect V2 to your PC and start EFILive Explorer (EE);
- on the bottom pane of EE, click on the FIrmware tab;
- it should show the versions of firmware and bootblock, tell me what they say.

Connect your wideband serial AFR cable from the LC-1 SERIAL OUT port to the RJ12 port on the top edge of V2 next to the USB port.
Plug the stereo terminator plug into the LC-1 SERIAL IN port.
Then you have to enable serial afr pids in the V2 setup options (navigate down into there from the V2 LCD/keypad).
You will then be able to talk to your LC-1 from V2 (to do a free air calibration, and to read the AFR and LC-1 status).

Send me your Options.ini file, it has now changed to Options.txt, I can transcibe the pids over.

Cheers,
Joe


Going good... SSDD = Same Shit Different Day.. LOL

Im at work and wont have time to get to the car till this weekend....

Yea, it turns on when I turn the key... I have never done another calibration on the O2 since I put it in 3 years ago. You guys have a link some where on here I can look at to refresh my failing memory?

[joecar]

Heater Calibration:
- power off and disconnect the sensor from the module,
- power it on and wait a few moments,
- then power off and reconnect the sensor to the module,
- then power it on, wait a few moments.

Free Air Calibration:
- after leaving motor off overnight, use FlashScan V2 to initiate the free air calibration.

[waterbug1999]

Im sure its pretty black from the rich starts I had before.. Would it hurt anything to clean it up?

Also, I can do all the above with the O2 hanging down along the pipe right, its easy to get to.

[joecar]

Hmmm... maybe spray it with MAF cleaner when cold and let it air dry.

[waterbug1999]

Hmmm... maybe spray it with MAF cleaner when cold and let it air dry.

How about electic parts/circuit cleaner?

[joecar]

How about electic parts/circuit cleaner?Yes, should be ok.

[waterbug1999]

Thanks... Ill let you know what happends sometime over the weekend. I will be getting the car out of storage.

[waterbug1999]

Hey Jody,

How's it going...?

Your LC-1 has power when the motor is running, right...?
Do a heater calibration and a free air calibration.

First do this:
- connect V2 to your PC and start EFILive Explorer (EE);
- on the bottom pane of EE, click on the FIrmware tab;
- it should show the versions of firmware and bootblock, tell me what they say.

Connect your wideband serial AFR cable from the LC-1 SERIAL OUT port to the RJ12 port on the top edge of V2 next to the USB port.
Plug the stereo terminator plug into the LC-1 SERIAL IN port.
Then you have to enable serial afr pids in the V2 setup options (navigate down into there from the V2 LCD/keypad).
You will then be able to talk to your LC-1 from V2 (to do a free air calibration, and to read the AFR and LC-1 status).

Send me your Options.ini file, it has now changed to Options.txt, I can transcibe the pids over.

Cheers,
Joe

says version is 2.5.20
and bootblock is 2.5.08

[waterbug1999]

Hey Jody,

How's it going...?

Your LC-1 has power when the motor is running, right...?
Do a heater calibration and a free air calibration.

First do this:
- connect V2 to your PC and start EFILive Explorer (EE);
- on the bottom pane of EE, click on the FIrmware tab;
- it should show the versions of firmware and bootblock, tell me what they say.

Connect your wideband serial AFR cable from the LC-1 SERIAL OUT port to the RJ12 port on the top edge of V2 next to the USB port.
Plug the stereo terminator plug into the LC-1 SERIAL IN port.
Then you have to enable serial afr pids in the V2 setup options (navigate down into there from the V2 LCD/keypad).
You will then be able to talk to your LC-1 from V2 (to do a free air calibration, and to read the AFR and LC-1 status).

Send me your Options.ini file, it has now changed to Options.txt, I can transcibe the pids over.

Cheers,
Joe

I cant even remember how to get in to do that. :help2:

[waterbug1999]

Hey Jody,

How's it going...?

Your LC-1 has power when the motor is running, right...?
Do a heater calibration and a free air calibration.

First do this:
- connect V2 to your PC and start EFILive Explorer (EE);
- on the bottom pane of EE, click on the FIrmware tab;
- it should show the versions of firmware and bootblock, tell me what they say.

Connect your wideband serial AFR cable from the LC-1 SERIAL OUT port to the RJ12 port on the top edge of V2 next to the USB port.
Plug the stereo terminator plug into the LC-1 SERIAL IN port.
Then you have to enable serial afr pids in the V2 setup options (navigate down into there from the V2 LCD/keypad).
You will then be able to talk to your LC-1 from V2 (to do a free air calibration, and to read the AFR and LC-1 status).

Send me your Options.ini file, it has now changed to Options.txt, I can transcibe the pids over.

Cheers,
Joe

Did not see that but, I did find the WO2 type, it was in unknown. So, I switched to innovate as that the kind I have. Ill see if that will work.

*edit*.. I got the AF to display on the V2, the numbers from my gauge to the V2 are about 1 off. Ill recalibrate the 02 and see if it helps. But, for some reason I cant get it to display on the EFILive Scan page.

*edit* i got it. its all good to go. Time to try and recal the 02.

[waterbug1999]

How do you recal the O2 from the V2?

[waterbug1999]

Heater Calibration:
- power off and disconnect the sensor from the module,
- power it on and wait a few moments,
- then power off and reconnect the sensor to the module,
- then power it on, wait a few moments.

Free Air Calibration:
- after leaving motor off overnight, use FlashScan V2 to initiate the free air calibration.

ok.. i just did this. But, in the V2 it asked for Volt #'s. I found this;
* 0.88333 Volts at AFR: 10.00
* 4.21667 Volts at AFR: 20.00

I entered these. IS the 02 suppose to get hot? Its warm.

[waterbug1999]

well, when its warming up the gauge in the car says -1.4 And I think thats about how much the V2 and the gauge are off. How do I adjust that and which on is right or did I enter in wrong numbers?

[joecar]

says version is 2.5.20
and bootblock is 2.5.08Ok, you have to upgrade both software and bootblock/firmware...


1. install V7.5 from the above downloads;
2. install V8 from the above downloads;
3. Start->All Programs->EFILive->V7.5->Tools->Check For New Update and follow the prompts, wait for it to finish updating;
4. Start->All Programs->EFILive->V8->Tools->Check For New Update and follow the prompts, wait for it to finish updating;
After that, do Help->About in scantool (ST) or tunetool (TT) and it should say build 84.

Start EFILive Explorer (EE), goto Firmware tab, click About, it should say Build 44;

Then, still in EE Firmware tab, update the bootblock to 2.06.02 (checkmark Bootblock box) and the firmware to 2.06.06 in that order.

[joecar]

After updating the V2 bootblock and firmware (2.06.02 and 2.06.06) as shown above,

read this:

Configure FlashScan and/or AutoCal for BB logging:

1. Using the EFILive_Explorer program, select the [Config Files] tab page. The explorer view in the top half of the window will automatically display the folder continaing the *.pmm and Options.tst files.
2. If you have both FlashSCan and AutoCal connected to you PC, select the device you want to configure, by checking one of the FlashScan or AutoCal radio buttons in the lower right corner.
3. Click the [Format] button to format the Config File system in FlashScan or AutoCal’s flash memory.
When loading beta test updates, you SHOULD reformat the Config file system to ensure no incompatible files remain.
4. Click and drag ALL files from the Config folder in the top half of the window to the [Config Files] tab page in the lower half of the window.--> you only need LS1B_A.pmm and Options.txt.
Hint: hold down the Ctrl key (or Shift key) on the PC keyboard to select multiple files and then drag all highlighted files to the [Config Files] tab page.
The Config file system is only about 1Mb in size. If you attempt to copy too many files or files that are too large, then the copy will fail. Make sure the only files that exist in the config folder are files that were extracted from the downloaded zip file. Sometimes files from older releases are left in the config folder, they should be deleted.
Also, read this:

Using BB Logging:

Before you can log any data you must format the Data File system. The Data File system and the Config File system (that you formatted earlier) are kept in different areas of the flash memory. You can safely format one without affecting the other. You can only format the Config File system using a PC and the EFILive Explorer program. That prevents you from accidentally erasing the configuration files while "out on the road".

FlashScan supports two Data File systems: An internal flash memory chip which can hold about 2.7Mb of data and an external SD Card that can hold between 64Mb and 2Gb.

To format the internal Data File system, press Ctrl+Backspace, then use the left/right arrow keys to change the File sys: setting to Internal and press OK, then to format the Internal file system, select: F4 Options -> F2 File System -> F3 Format File Sys.

To format the SD Card File system, press Ctrl+Backspace, then use the left/right arrow keys to change the File sys: setting to SD Card and press OK, then to format the Internal file system, select: F4 Options -> F2 File System -> F3 Format File Sys.

You can also format the SD card using a PC card reader. Select the FAT32 (or just FAT) file system when formatting the SD Card via a PC. If you do that, you must create two folders on the SD Card:
\EFILive\V7\Scan (which will contain the BB logging files)
\EFILive\V7\Tune (which will contain the tuning files)

WARNING:
NEVER insert or remove the SD Card while Black Box Logging is in progress (or any other operation that writes data to the SD card), you will lose some or all of the data stored in the internal flash memory and/or data stored on the SD Card.
The blue LED on FlashScan’s keypad will illuminate whenever FlashScan is writing data to internal or external flash memory. Note: the blue LED will only illuminate when the LED Mode is set to “S” (Status).
1. Using FlashScan's keypad select F1 Select PIDs, then select the desired vehicle controller by using the up and down arrow keys, then Ok to select the desired controller.
You can also set up hotkeys to quickly select one of four preset PID lists.
2. Once you have selected a vehicle, FlashScan will return to the main menu.
Select: F2 Scan Tool -> F1 Data Logging.
Select F1 Record Data to begin recording, or F2 Display Data to display live data without recording.
You can also just press the 0 key to start logging.
3. Pressing Ok during data logging will toggle pause on/off, the same as using Ctrl+Spacebar in the PC based Scan Tool Software.
4. Use the up and down arrow keys to reveal more PIDs.
Use the Left and Right arrow keys to scroll up and down a page at a time.
(Hint: When held down for more than about a 1/2 second, the keys will "auto-repeat" just like a PC keyboard.)
5. Pressing F1..F4 and Ctrl+F1..Ctrl+F4 will insert the notes 1 thru 8 into the recorded data.
6. Pressing Enter will toggle between Metric and Custom units.
7. Pressing Ctrl+Enter will toggle between small and large text display.
8. Pressing Ctrl+DownArrow, will toggle “inverse screen” on/off. Inverting the screen can help visibility in direct sunlight.

[joecar]

How do you recal the O2 from the V2?First, do heater cal:
- remove sensor from LC-1 module and power up for a few seconds, then power off;
- insert sensor into LC-1 modules and power up again.

After updating the V2 bootblock and firmware (2.06.02 and 2.06.06) as shown above,
on the V2 LCD/keypad go F4 Options->F1 Setup->F1 Edit Settings and set the following:

Ser PIDs -> YES
COM In -> Wide-O2
COM Out -> Wide-O2
WO2 Type -> Innovate
WO2 Format -> Both
WO2 Data -> AFR & EQ

Then, On V2 menu, go F2 Scan Tool->F1 Data Logging->F3 Display WO2 and select the controller;
then press the power button (circle with vertical bar, overlays the zero key) and answer Yes;
make sure sensor is in free air.

[joecar]

Use attached Options.txt file, copy it to:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EFILive\V8\Config

Then start EE, goto Config Files tab, drag these files from the upper pane to the lower pane:
LS1B_A.pmm
Options.txt

You only need the pmm file for your car (LS1B_A = 1999+ LS1 with A4 transmission (includes 12212156 and COS5)).

Exit EE, and remove USB cable.

[joecar]

ok.. i just did this. But, in the V2 it asked for Volt #'s. I found this;
* 0.88333 Volts at AFR: 10.00
* 4.21667 Volts at AFR: 20.00

I entered these. IS the 02 suppose to get hot? Its warm.Since you have the serial AFR cable, yo don't need to set the AD voltages.

Connect:
- the stereo terminator plug into LC-1 SERIAL IN,
- connect the serial AFR cable (with null modem adapter) into LC-1 SERIAL OUT,
- other end of serial cable goes to V2 RJ12 serial jack socket.

[waterbug1999]

Thanks... Ill try it next weekend as the car is back in my storage.

[mr.prick]

Hey Joe,
you should take post #157 and make a sticky for serial WBO2 and
BBL options.txt formatting.

[waterbug1999]

Ok, you have to upgrade both software and bootblock/firmware...

After that, do Help->About in scantool (ST) or tunetool (TT) and it should say build 84.

Start EFILive Explorer (EE), goto Firmware tab, click About, it should say Build 44;

Then, still in EE Firmware tab, update the bootblock to 2.06.02 (checkmark Bootblock box) and the firmware to 2.06.06 in that order.

OK.. This should be done. I did not know where to go to see the "build 84" though. EE did say build 44.

[waterbug1999]

After updating the V2 bootblock and firmware (2.06.02 and 2.06.06) as shown above,

read this:
Also, read this:

Ok.. This is done.

[waterbug1999]

Use attached Options.txt file, copy it to:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EFILive\V8\Config

Then start EE, goto Config Files tab, drag these files from the upper pane to the lower pane:
LS1B_A.pmm
Options.txt

You only need the pmm file for your car (LS1B_A = 1999+ LS1 with A4 transmission (includes 12212156 and COS5)).

Exit EE, and remove USB cable.



I dont have that.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive-1.jpg

[waterbug1999]

I tried to open one of my tunes to look at a few things and a pop up window came up saying its a "DEMO". Whats that about?

Also, the icons are still saying 7.5

[joecar]

OK.. This should be done. I did not know where to go to see the "build 84" though. EE did say build 44.In scantool or tunetool go Help->About.

[joecar]

Jody,

Do you have Vista...?

For Vista, the location is under C:\Program Data\...

[joecar]

I tried to open one of my tunes to look at a few things and a pop up window came up saying its a "DEMO". Whats that about?

Also, the icons are still saying 7.5Do you have the blue card that came with EFILive...?

Open ST or TT and go Help->Register EFILIve and enter all the information from the blue card exactly as shown on blue card (do not enter your name unless the blue card shows your name).

[joecar]

Copy the attached Options.txt file to either of:

WinXP: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EFILive\V8\Config
Vista: C:\Program Data\EFILive\V8\Config (I don't remember is this is right).

[waterbug1999]

Jody,

Do you have Vista...?

For Vista, the location is under C:\Program Data\...

Yea, its vista.

[waterbug1999]

Do you have the blue card that came with EFILive...?

Open ST or TT and go Help->Register EFILIve and enter all the information from the blue card exactly as shown on blue card (do not enter your name unless the blue card shows your name).

I should have it... Just need to start digging thru the closet to see if I can find the box.

[waterbug1999]

Do you have the blue card that came with EFILive...?

Open ST or TT and go Help->Register EFILIve and enter all the information from the blue card exactly as shown on blue card (do not enter your name unless the blue card shows your name).

well.. I found my box and nothing in it but a sticker with a bar code on it, my reciept and a EFILive Flashscan sticker.. So, now what?

[joecar]

I contacted Tech Support.

[waterbug1999]

I contacted Tech Support.

O.k... Thanks.

[Blacky]

well.. I found my box and nothing in it but a sticker with a bar code on it, my reciept and a EFILive Flashscan sticker.. So, now what?

Send the FlashScan serial number (the one on the bar code sticker) to me (paul@efilive.com) and I'll send you your license details.

Regards
Paul

[waterbug1999]

PM sent.

[waterbug1999]

THANKS.. got it working.

[waterbug1999]

Copy the attached Options.txt file to either of:

WinXP: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EFILive\V8\Config
Vista: C:\Program Data\EFILive\V8\Config (I don't remember is this is right).


Hey Joe.. In here?

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/eviliveagain.jpg

[joecar]

Yes, that's the place, copy Options.txt to there... but do the copy using WIndows Explorer.

Then in EFILive Explorer in the COnfig Files tab:
- click Format and let it finish;
- drag Options.txt and LS1B_A.pmm from the upper pane (Config folder) to the lower pane (Config tab).

Then goto the Scan Files tab and drag down the dtc .txt files.

Then goto the Date/Time tab and click Set Now.

Remove the USB cable, now you're ready to goto car for doing BBL.

[waterbug1999]

I get confused as to window explorer.. where is that.. ugggg.

[joecar]

WE is the folder display thing you have beneath EE in the picture in post #178.

[waterbug1999]

There wasnt a config folder.

[joecar]

Config folder is at C:\ProgramData\EFILive\V8\Config.

Edit: removed space from pathname... [lol] in accordance with Microsoft's pathname convention... :rotflmao:

[Blacky]

Config folder is at C:\Program Data\EFILive\V8\Config.

Just one more "consistent inconsistency" from Microsoft. First they created a folder with a space in thename "Program Files" which broke 99% of applications that relied on the fact the filenames don't (and should never) contain spaces.
Then with Vista, they created a folder called ProgramData to augment the Program Files folder. This time no space. So now we have two folders that are designed to "work together" but one has a space and one does not.

What were they thinking? (were they even thinking?)
Bastards!!!!

Paul

[waterbug1999]

Config folder is at C:\ProgramData\EFILive\V8\Config.

Edit: removed space from pathname... [lol] in accordance with Microsoft's pathname convention... :rotflmao:


I still don't see where I am suppose to drag that options.txt file.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/config.jpg

[joecar]

Jody,

Not C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8\Config, but C:\Program Data\EFILive\V8\Config...

Microsoft's attempt to mess with us...:)

[waterbug1999]

Ok... ill try it when I get back home.

[Blacky]

Jody,

Not C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8\Config, but C:\Program Data\EFILive\V8\Config...

Microsoft's attempt to mess with us...:)
There's no space in ProgramData
Microsoft's attempt to screw with us while messing with us.

Regards
Paul

[joecar]

There's no space in ProgramData
Microsoft's attempt to screw with us while messing with us.

Regards
Paullol... see that, I can't get over the missing space....:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

[waterbug1999]

yea Joe.... I finally did it. lol

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/options.jpg

[joecar]

Jody,

[red = do this one time]

Ok, now connect V2 to PC (for power);

On V2 LCD/keypad navigate down into setup options, select the SD card, and format it; when done, go back to the opening menu.

Then on PC, open EE, goto Config Files tab, click Format (formats the config space).

Then drag these files from upper pane (PC) to lower pane (V2):
- LS1B_A.pmm <--- means: 1999+ LS1 with A4
- Options.txt <---- the same one you copied

Then, goto Scan Data tab, and drag the 4 dtc files from upper to lowe pane (useful for interpreting DTCs).

Then exit EE, remove V2 from PC.

[green = do this each time you log]

Now goto car, ignition key on, connect V2 to car.

If you haven't done this already, or if you want to change pid list do this:
On V2 display, go into Select Pids...
It shows various "pid lists" (i.e. named lists/groups of pids),
Select one of those (e.g. LOOP or TRANS).
Press OK one more time.
Press the ZERO key to start logging.

When finished logging, press CANCEL two times, remove V2 from car.

Connect V2 to PC, Start EE, goto Scan Data tab, drag log files from lower pane (V2) to upper pane (some folder on your PC, you may want to change to a different folder).
In the lower pane, you can delete the log files.
Exit EE.

Using scantool, open those log files.

[waterbug1999]

ok... i should have the car in the garage tomorrow, so I will try it over the weekend. I just got my N20 bottle filled, bbuuuwwwaaa!!

[waterbug1999]

Jody,

[red = do this one time]

Ok, now connect V2 to PC (for power);

On V2 LCD/keypad navigate down into setup options, select the SD card, and format it; when done, go back to the opening menu.

Then on PC, open EE, goto Config Files tab, click Format (formats the config space).

Then drag these files from upper pane (PC) to lower pane (V2):
- LS1B_A.pmm <--- means: 1999+ LS1 with A4
- Options.txt <---- the same one you copied

Then, goto Scan Data tab, and drag the 4 dtc files from upper to lowe pane (useful for interpreting DTCs).

Then exit EE, remove V2 from PC.

[green = do this each time you log]

Now goto car, ignition key on, connect V2 to car.

If you haven't done this already, or if you want to change pid list do this:
On V2 display, go into Select Pids...
It shows various "pid lists" (i.e. named lists/groups of pids),
Select one of those (e.g. LOOP or TRANS).
Press OK one more time.
Press the ZERO key to start logging.

When finished logging, press CANCEL two times, remove V2 from car.

Connect V2 to PC, Start EE, goto Scan Data tab, drag log files from lower pane (V2) to upper pane (some folder on your PC, you may want to change to a different folder).
In the lower pane, you can delete the log files.
Exit EE.

Using scantool, open those log files.

On the V2 for "select PID list" what do I select? I see there is an LS1 99+ Auto.

But, when I go into option, its doesnt show what PID's are in the LS1 99+ Auto. It just has this.


;Cap1 Cap2 Controllers (Engine&Trans) PSL PCU Hot Key (Ctrl+Fx)
;------- -------- -------------------------- ---------- -------- -----------------
A->, IBPW, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_A, PCU, 1
B->, O2S, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_B, PCU, 2
C->, STFT, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_C, PCU
D->, LOOP, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_D, PCU, 3
E->, TRANS, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_E, PCU, 4

[Blacky]

The new Version 8 "user friendly" black box logging setup software is almost ready to be released, hopefully this weekend.
I recommend downloading it and using it for black box logging setup once it is available.

Look for it on our downloads page here in the next 24 hours:
http://www.efilive.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=133

Regards
Paul

[waterbug1999]

The new Version 8 "user friendly" black box logging setup software is almost ready to be released, hopefully this weekend.
I recommend downloading it and using it for black box logging setup once it is available.

Look for it on our downloads page here in the next 24 hours:
http://www.efilive.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=133

Regards
Paul


I remember last year that the names matched in the "options" file and the V2.

So, I could set this up and use it. which is IBPW in the V2 and select it.. How do I know what group is what in the V2 when the names dont match?



*PSL_A*
;
;Node PIDs (pid1|pid2|...|pidn) Alarm (min:max:style:time*10ms:hold*sec)
;---- -------------------------- -----------------------------------------
PCM, RPM
PCM, VSS
PCM, TP
PCM, MAP
PCM, MAF
PCM, DYNCYLAIR_M
PCM, ECT, -40:110:97:1:0
PCM, IAT
PCM, SPARKADV
PCM, KR, 0:2:147:1:0
PCM, AFR
PCM, IBPW1
PCM, IBPW2
PCM, LONGFT1
PCM, LONGFT2
PCM, HO2S11
PCM, HO2S21
PCM, MFTOTAL
PCM, AFR_LC11
PCM, AFR_LC12

[joecar]

On the V2 for "select PID list" what do I select? I see there is an LS1 99+ Auto.

But, when I go into option, its doesnt show what PID's are in the LS1 99+ Auto. It just has this.


;Cap1 Cap2 Controllers (Engine&Trans) PSL PCU Hot Key (Ctrl+Fx)
;------- -------- -------------------------- ---------- -------- -----------------
A->, IBPW, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_A, PCU, 1
B->, O2S, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_B, PCU, 2
C->, STFT, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_C, PCU
D->, LOOP, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_D, PCU, 3
E->, TRANS, LS1B_A.pmm, PSL_E, PCU, 4Did you drag Options.txt to the Config File tab (the lower pane in EE)...?

Copy the attached Options.txt to your folder C:\ProgramData\EFILive\V8\Config
then using EE goto Config Files tab and drag it from the upper pane to the lower pane (with V2 connected).

lol... Paul will have the new V8/BBL stuff out shortly.

:cheers:

[bmax]

The new Version 8 "user friendly" black box logging setup software is almost ready to be released, hopefully this weekend.
I recommend downloading it and using it for black box logging setup once it is available.



Sweet. :grin:

[waterbug1999]

ok.. I re-did it..

Where is this in the listings?? I am freaking confused.

; __________________________________________________ _______________________
*PSL,PSL_01,PSL_02
;
;Node PID Alarm (min:max:style:time*10ms:hold*sec)
;---- ---------------- -----------------------------------------
PCM, ECT, -40:110:1:1:0
PCM, CYLAIR_M
PCM, DYNCYLAIR_M
PCM, IAT
PCM, LONGFT1
PCM, LONGFT2
PCM, EOPS
PCM, MAP
PCM, RPM, 0:6500:2:1:0
PCM, SPARKADV
PCM, TP
PCM, VSS
PCM, AFR
PCM, HO2S11
PCM, HO2S21
PCM, IBPW1
PCM, IBPW2
PCM, KR
PCM, MAFFREQ



;Caption Active Controllers (Engine&Trans) PCU Hot Key (Ctrl+Fx)
;--------------- ------ -------------------------- -------- -----------------
LS1 98|Manual, Y, LS1A_M, PCU
LS1 98|Auto, Y, LS1A_A, PCU
LS1 99+|Manual, Y, LS1B_M, PCU, 1
LS1 99+|Auto, Y, LS1B_A, PCU
P10|Manual, Y, P10_M, PCU
P10|Auto, Y, P10_A, PCU
P12|Manual, Y, P12_M, PCU
P12|Auto, Y, P12_A, PCU
E40|Manual, Y, E40, PCU
E40|Auto, Y, E40&T42, PCU
E38|Manual, Y, E38, PCU
E38|Auto, Y, E38&T43, PCU, 2
E67|Manual, Y, E67, PCU
E67|Auto, Y, E67&T43, PCU
LB7|Manual, Y, LB7, PCU
LB7|Auto, Y, LB7&AL5, PCU, 3
LLY|Manual, Y, LLY, PCU
LLY|Auto, Y, LLY&AL5, PCU
LBZ|Manual, Y, LBZ, PCU
LBZ|Auto, Y, LBZ&AL6, PCU, 4
LMM|Manual, Y, LMM, PCU
LMM|Auto, Y, LMM&AL6, PCU
Unused, N
Unused, N
Unused, N
Unused, N
Unused, N
Unused, N
Unused, N
Unused, N
Unused, N
Unused, N

; __________________________________________________ _______________________
;

[waterbug1999]

So how do you tell what is what?? Im getting ready to go back to the old shit.

[joecar]

Did you do this (2 steps: copy file to folder, then using EE drag it to Config Folder):

Copy the attached Options.txt to your folder C:\ProgramData\EFILive\V8\Config
then using EE goto Config Files tab and drag it from the upper pane to the lower pane (with V2 connected).Did you have V2 attached to your PC when you did that...?

On V2 goto the Select PIDs option, you will see a "list" of PID lists.

Each PID list is a group of pids that will be logged if you select that list.

[Blacky]

So how do you tell what is what?? Im getting ready to go back to the old shit.

I highly recommend waiting a few more hours until I post the updated version8 software.
Regards
Paul

[Blacky]

http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?p=94170#post94170

[TFZ_Z06]

:cucumber::cucumber::cucumber: WILL USE TODAY!

[joecar]

Jody, use the new one... see post #202.

You will have to update the V2 firmware, use EFILive Explorer to do so.

[Blacky]

Jody, use the new one... see post #202.

You will have to update the V2 firmware, use EFILive Explorer to do so.

Its not strictly necessary, but if you do uninstall and delete the two folders, then your new V8 install will be cleaner and ther ewill be no "old" files hanging around to confuse you later...

On XP:
\Program Files\EFILive\V8
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EFILive\V8

On Vista (you may need to set "show hidden files" to see ProgramData)
\Program Files\EFILive\V8
\ProgramData\EFILive\V8

Regards
Paul

[waterbug1999]

so, am i suppose to delete everything?? This is getting really confusing.

[waterbug1999]

I went ahead and downloaded anyway.. Now, I went to EE and its different so I assume its good.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/Untitled-4.jpg

[Jasondt2001]

Forgive me if this has been brought up already but... Is there a way to switch the PIDS to imperial?

I've already selected 'custom' from the display menu of f3 "display" tab.

[Jasondt2001]

Jeez - I put that in the wrong spot - Sorry guys.

[joecar]

Jody,

Have you figured out how to use it...?

Did you program V2 with firmware 2.06.07 using the old EFILive Explorer...?

Then, on the Scan & Tune display (your post #207 above) follow this:

Hints:
- On "LLY Manual" rightclick->Properties and change its name to "LS1" "Trims" (for example), and select the LS1B_A controller;
- Uncheck the other names and click the red minus button to delete them;
- Click on PID Name to sort by pid name,
- Select some pids, click on the double left arrow button to add them;
- Watch the pid channel counter below (if it turn red you have too many pid channels);
- Click the up and down arrows to arrange the V2 display order of the selected pids;

Rightclick on the next empty controller slot and name/create another pid list (e.g. "LS1B" "Trans")...

FInally, click on Save , and then click on Program (V2 has to be connected to PC).

Remove V2 from PC... you're now ready to log

[joecar]

Forgive me if this has been brought up already but... Is there a way to switch the PIDS to imperial?

I've already selected 'custom' from the display menu of f3 "display" tab.Yes, rightclick on a selected pid and edit the custom units/precision.

[joecar]

Paul,

Is there a way to set the non-custom precision...?

[waterbug1999]

good timing.. I was going to post what I have. But, after reading what you just posted I have too many PID's.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/pids.jpg

[waterbug1999]

I really dont know which pids are what. So, since I have the LC1, where is the PID to monitor the AFR from that?

[joecar]

Click Device Settings (in the blue panel on the far left) and somewhere in there there's a setting to always include serial AFR pids.

[waterbug1999]

Jody,

Have you figured out how to use it...?

Did you program V2 with firmware 2.06.07 using the old EFILive Explorer...?

Then, on the Scan & Tune display (your post #207 above) follow this:

Hints:
- On "LLY Manual" rightclick->Properties and change its name to "LS1" "Trims" (for example), and select the LS1B_A controller;
- Uncheck the other names and click the red minus button to delete them;
- Click on PID Name to sort by pid name,
- Select some pids, click on the double left arrow button to add them;
- Watch the pid channel counter below (if it turn red you have too many pid channels);
- Click the up and down arrows to arrange the V2 display order of the selected pids;

Rightclick on the next empty controller slot and name/create another pid list (e.g. "LS1B" "Trans")...

FInally, click on Save , and then click on Program (V2 has to be connected to PC).

Remove V2 from PC... you're now ready to log

ok.. did that.

In the PID selection, I have them going in alphabetical order. So, it has ACCDEC (Wheel acceleration/deceleration) now, is that MPH?

[joecar]

ok.. did that.

In the PID selection, I have them going in alphabetical order. So, it has ACCDEC (Wheel acceleration/deceleration) now, is that MPH?I'm not sure what that pid is...

Click on a controller in the upper left pane, set it to LS1B_A and name it;

then on the RHS find the usual pids:
VSS
TP
RPM
MAF
MAP
DYNAIR
DYNCLYAIR
AFR
LONGFT1
LONGFT2
ECT
IAT
GEAR
TCCMODE

and copy them to the LHS using the blue << button.

[waterbug1999]

Click Device Settings (in the blue panel on the far left) and somewhere in there there's a setting to always include serial AFR pids.

im assuming its here? this is the way it was.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/serial.jpg

[waterbug1999]

I'm not sure what that pid is...

Click on a controller in the upper left pane, set it to LS1B_A and name it;

then on the RHS find the usual pids:
VSS
TP
RPM
MAF
MAP
DYNAIR
DYNCLYAIR
AFR
LONGFT1
LONGFT2
ECT
IAT
GEAR
TCCMODE

and copy them to the LHS using the blue << button.

Like this eh?

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/ls1auto.jpg

[waterbug1999]

I'm not sure what that pid is...

Click on a controller in the upper left pane, set it to LS1B_A and name it;

then on the RHS find the usual pids:
VSS
TP
RPM
MAF
MAP
DYNAIR
DYNCLYAIR
AFR
LONGFT1
LONGFT2
ECT
IAT
GEAR
TCCMODE

and copy them to the LHS using the blue << button.

Say, why do some of the PIDS have a green box and some have a double blue box?

[joecar]

green single box = 1 channel per pid
blue double box = 2 channels per pid

[joecar]

Click Device Settings (in the blue panel on the far left) and somewhere in there there's a setting to always include serial AFR pids.


im assuming its here? this is the way it was.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/serial.jpg
Yes, that's it...

Set Data Display to: AFR & EQ.

If you have two widebands, set Format to: Both widebands.

[waterbug1999]

ok.. i moved all the PIDS you listed and saved them. Do you know any other ones I might need? I am assuming that the LC1 AFR will be included since I changed the setting to AFR & EQ.

I also see the VSS is an KMH, how do I change it to MPH?

[joecar]

Serial AFR pids:

Goto Device Settings->Logging and checkmark external digital pids.

[joecar]

To show mph units, on VSS in the left pane do rightclick->Properties->Custom PID Properties->Quick Select->mph and click OK.

Remember to save and program.

[joecar]

You also want:
SPARKADV
KR

[waterbug1999]

You also want:
SPARKADV
KR

added that and switched them over to MPH and F*.. So, I guess I am good to go for some logging now.

I still need to go back in this thread and find the free air cal on my wideband 02 to make sure its good and I should be able to do it on the V2 now right?

I did notice that a few weeks ago when I was fooling around with it, I got the AFR from the LC1 to display and it was 1 point off of my dynotune AFR gauge. IS there a way to make them both read the same?

[waterbug1999]

Hey Joe.. I was trying to see what tune I had in the car but I cant read it, is say I am locked out. Whats this all about?

[waterbug1999]

and on the left, 2nd down, thats where my wideband 02 should display right? I have nothing.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/efilive-2.jpg

[joecar]

Hey Joe.. I was trying to see what tune I had in the car but I cant read it, is say I am locked out. Whats this all about???? did you lock your tune...?

Post screenshots.

[joecar]

You have serial AFR now, so you need to select/log these pids:
EXT.WO2AFR1
CALC.BEN1

The one's you show are for analog AFR.

[waterbug1999]

i have to add it using EE right?

I dont see EXT.WO2AFR1.. in the available PIDS. I dont see the other one either.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/ext.jpg

[joecar]

No, if you set up the V2 options to include serial inputs, then V2 should already be logging WO2AFR1...

V2 can't log BEN1... but when you view the log in the scantool, you can select BEN1 (and save the file to permanently include it).

You will also have to edit your BEN map to use BEN1 as data instead of BEN_LC11, and save the map with a new filename.

BEN1 is derived from WBO2AFR1 and AFR.

[waterbug1999]

No, if you set up the V2 options to include serial inputs, then V2 should already be logging WO2AFR1...

V2 can't log BEN1... but when you view the log in the scantool, you can select BEN1 (and save the file to permanently include it).

BEN1 is derived from WBO2AFR1 and AFR.

ok.. i found it and added it.. Like this eh? (2nd down on the left)

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/tunee.jpg

[joecar]

Yep.

And, while logging BBL on V2, scroll down, you should see WO2AFR logging with a valid value.

[waterbug1999]

well.. took out for a quick stab on the jug with the new stand alone I built.. it worked sweet at 1st, then it wont activate. going to see whats up.

[joecar]

Do you have wet or dry...?

[waterbug1999]

Its a wet shot...

I lowered the 2 FPSS (one for motor and one or the stand alone) to see if that would help and it still didn't fire.. Last time my TP cable got loose and that caused the WS not to see the WOT voltage it needed. So, Ill check that when I get another chance. Now, its back to work for the week and wont have time.

[waterbug1999]

Hey Joecar....

I cant seem to find the PID for the injector duty cycle.. am i blind or is it not there?

Besides that, the V2 logging to day worked like a charm, to bad the track sucked ass.

[joecar]

With BBL log these: IBPW1, IBPW2

Then when viewing the log in the scantool, on the PIDs tab select INJDC1, INJDC2 and resave the log file.

[waterbug1999]

ok.. thanks. i added it..

Went to the track yesterday and ran like shit. MY AF was 11.0 all dang day. Will running 102 octane at the track cause it to richen up that much? On the street and 91 octane its pretty much dead on.

So, you think i need two tunes, one for street and one for track?

[waterbug1999]

Hey guys.. I had to replace my HD on my computer so I have to start over. I downloaded the 2 programes. But, my V2 wont do anything. Im having a brainfart, what do I do?

[Blacky]

When you connect your V2, Windows should ask you to install the USB drivers.
You need to install the V7.5 or V8 software (or both) then you should tell the wizard you "have the driver disk" and browse to the folder:
\Program Files\EFILive\Drivers\EFILive\Win-2K-XP-Vista
Windows should install the drivers from there.

Regards
Paul

[Blacky]

If windows does not ask to install the drivers, you can manually install them b right clicking on My Computer and selecting Properties. Then Hardware and click on [Device Manager].

Look for FlashScan V2 in the Universal Serial Bus section and right click on it and select Update driver.

If it is not under the Universal Serial Bus section, check in other sections for "unknown devices" then if you unplug FlashScan and the unknown device disappears from the display then you know that is the FlashScan device. Plug it back in again and select Update driver.

Regards
Paul

[waterbug1999]

When you connect your V2, Windows should ask you to install the USB drivers.
You need to install the V7.5 or V8 software (or both) then you should tell the wizard you "have the driver disk" and browse to the folder:
\Program Files\EFILive\Drivers\EFILive\Win-2K-XP-Vista
Windows should install the drivers from there.

Regards
Paul

it gives 7 more options..?

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z164/waterbug1999/efiliveinstall.jpg

[waterbug1999]

If windows does not ask to install the drivers, you can manually install them b right clicking on My Computer and selecting Properties. Then Hardware and click on [Device Manager].

Look for FlashScan V2 in the Universal Serial Bus section and right click on it and select Update driver.

If it is not under the Universal Serial Bus section, check in other sections for "unknown devices" then if you unplug FlashScan and the unknown device disappears from the display then you know that is the FlashScan device. Plug it back in again and select Update driver.

Regards
Paul



Cant find it.. Tried to unplug/plug it in and nothing new popped up.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z164/waterbug1999/efilivepic.jpg

[waterbug1999]

got it.... found it under other devices, reinstall and searched under C/program files. Thanks again.

[Blacky]

Glad its working now.

Regards
Paul

[waterbug1999]

Glad its working now.

Regards
Paul

i like this upgrades.. im actually getting it. lol

[waterbug1999]

How do you fix this??

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk151/waterbug19999/error.jpg