ssvolvo
November 9th, 2008, 11:21 PM
Bought an 08 Silverado 2500 6.0 liter LY6. Just learning the E38 stuff as all my other junk is E40 based. Please keep in mind this truck is bone stock, right down to the air filter.
A couple of notes. Started logging VE Wide band data. Truck is 10% rich at idle and very low load. At high RPM high load this thing is 20% lean, enough so that I was a bit worried and quit trying to log high load sections.
So NOT wanting to reshape my virtual VE table just yet I logged some more data on a 400 mile road trip towing a 6000 lb. trailer, obviously with the ECM back in closed loop.
PE on most trucks doesn't come in until 87% throttle, which is really about 99% of pedal travel. So I'm thinking...How can one tow this heavy a trailer at almost full throttle running stoichic and not hurt the engine? Every time I hit a hill the wide band showed a richer mixture down to almost 11.5/1 at one point, very rich. I would say too rich for a NA application. But when I looked at the log power enrichment only came into play one time...when the pedal was on the metal! ANY high load fueling done was with Catalyst Protection enabled, which was a complete eye-opener for me.
Does GM use Cat Protection to control high load fueling over PE? I don't think I have the right to question their (GM's) authority but what am I missing? If the VE table is that far off,...What are THEY missing?
One more note. 8 miles per gallon loaded and 14.5 empty. NEVER any knock retard even with cheap gas.
Engine surges and runs like crap while in open loop, warming up for maybe 1 minute every cold start. Dealer found a TSB and regapped the plugs which did not help a thing. THEY installed Tis2 latest calibration, yet when I read the tune it was IDENTICAL to what was already loaded. Also service manager claims the surging is quite normal. Looks like I'll try to fix this myself.
Discuss? Thanks for your time, John
A couple of notes. Started logging VE Wide band data. Truck is 10% rich at idle and very low load. At high RPM high load this thing is 20% lean, enough so that I was a bit worried and quit trying to log high load sections.
So NOT wanting to reshape my virtual VE table just yet I logged some more data on a 400 mile road trip towing a 6000 lb. trailer, obviously with the ECM back in closed loop.
PE on most trucks doesn't come in until 87% throttle, which is really about 99% of pedal travel. So I'm thinking...How can one tow this heavy a trailer at almost full throttle running stoichic and not hurt the engine? Every time I hit a hill the wide band showed a richer mixture down to almost 11.5/1 at one point, very rich. I would say too rich for a NA application. But when I looked at the log power enrichment only came into play one time...when the pedal was on the metal! ANY high load fueling done was with Catalyst Protection enabled, which was a complete eye-opener for me.
Does GM use Cat Protection to control high load fueling over PE? I don't think I have the right to question their (GM's) authority but what am I missing? If the VE table is that far off,...What are THEY missing?
One more note. 8 miles per gallon loaded and 14.5 empty. NEVER any knock retard even with cheap gas.
Engine surges and runs like crap while in open loop, warming up for maybe 1 minute every cold start. Dealer found a TSB and regapped the plugs which did not help a thing. THEY installed Tis2 latest calibration, yet when I read the tune it was IDENTICAL to what was already loaded. Also service manager claims the surging is quite normal. Looks like I'll try to fix this myself.
Discuss? Thanks for your time, John