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Seems a little strange as a few have altered that table with no issues.
The code you threw was a P0606, not a P060D, so some of the info is not quite right. Maybe there is another issue that is compounding the problem, possibly due to the relocation of the TB. It may be that the log data you have is actually showing the problem that is causing the code, not the result of the problem occuring?
Simon
http://www.justanswer.com/uploads/SK..._DTC_P0606.pdf
and this sorry Simon .....have a read.
This points to a TAC problem, but maybe the 36% throttle is a result of the reduced power mode kicking in though once it was triggered. Strange how the engine wasn't running and it triggered the moment I touched the throttle. Also the ECU voltage drops out to zero as I move the throttle but stops doing this after 3 tps movements...
srry, double post.....
Thanks for the input Mike, what kind of pcv system do you have on the car? L98 valley cover style or LS3. You could go back to a L76 style and draw the air from the passenger side rear rocker cover thru a oil/air seperator with a one way valve(so it does not pressurise the engine). This will allow the engine to actually draw more air in thru the motor , I had my L98 setup like this when it was blown. I had to reduce min idle airflow to compensate for it quite a bit. The LS3 has the small restrictor which does not add much to airflow to the motor. Just a suggestion. I know some tuners alter B1650. I have never tried it my main concern was that it may not get full throttle?
Joel
E38 Idle question, B1651 and B1652 those seem to be the max limit the ecm can open the throttle body at idle, but what does the area 1 and area 2 difference in tables is one in gear and the other park neutral? And in B1650 i have seen some stock tunes that use a larger area here i don't understand unless there was a larger throttle body?
The way I read those is...
- {B1651}: Maximum rolling idle area. IE. the maximum opening % that the ECM can command when the car is moving.
- {B1652}: Maximum stationary idle area. IE. when the car is not moving at all.
{B1650} seems to let the ECM know how big the TB is, which is then used to help work out what amount of opening is required for a given air flow. It's not a hard and fast rule to match the actual WOT volume here, in fact some deliberately set this low to help with cammed cars. I've gone as far as setting this to 3600 with no adverse effects, but I'm not sure how far you can take it.
Simon
Thank you swing it does not say in my efilive that good of a description about rolling and stationary, i kept moving min idle air and the tbody wasn't opening any more so i played with those tables and it opened more which really started to bring the idle up which is what i needed. But was un clear about idle or moving.
Yes, it took a bit to work that out. I actually reduced {B1651} quite a lot, down to around 1% for testing. I found that when cold, the rolling idle would drop a lot, then pick up as the car stopped.
Odd i increased the tables and still its hard to start cold takes a few tries but i haven't had much time to play with that while it was reduced the tbody wasn't open near enough to get the idle to the commanded
As already mentioned, try....
Reducing: {B1650} and {B1701} by 20%
Increasing: {B1832} by 10%
Simon.