saving raw BIN files

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Originally Posted by TTExpreSS

my reason is so I can easily share my tune with others that use HPT. It aint the end of the world for me if .BIN writing is never supported. I understand your need to protect IP but we can read their BINS (very helpful to me) and not give back.

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I am a proffesional tuner with a huge database of files , I NEVER LOOK AT ANOTHER TUNE TO TUNE A DIFFERENT CAR , why would you want to look and share other people mistakes , go with what your engine wants and feels good with , forget about trying to copy paste other people table and TUNE your car , thats the great thing about this software , you can log data , see whats going on and where and then make it right. cant do better than that.

I realize what you are saying and I dont see myself as becoming a cut and paste tuner. But, I am sooo new to tuning that I am just happy to see what others have changed so I can gain some perspective. Also, there may be a time when I'd like to send my BIN to someone who is helping me solve a problem. As it stands I'd have to buy HPT to be able to do that...

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Originally Posted by TTExpreSS

I realize what you are saying and I dont see myself as becoming a cut and paste tuner. But, I am sooo new to tuning that I am just happy to see what others have changed so I can gain some perspective. Also, there may be a time when I'd like to send my BIN to someone who is helping me solve a problem. As it stands I'd have to buy HPT to be able to do that...

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send it to someone who has flashscan , also like Blacky said for a one off they can convert your file to a bin if required - thats what I call service :D

That is great service but it could get old for Blacky, eh? Anyway, I guess it's not a big deal as no one else has chimed in on this thread. I guess I am happy enough that I can read HPTuners files :roll:

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Originally Posted by Delco

...thats the great thing about this software , you can log data , see whats going on and where and then make it right. cant do better than that.

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Delco is absolutely correct; it's a "closed loop" process (log, analyze, modify), and doing otherwise will give poor results and teach you "bad" things (failure to understand the correct "cause-effect"); we're not coming down on you, we're just hoping that you (and I) learn this stuff properly.
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Oh it's cool. I know what you guys are saying. I come from a linux world and want my information to be free (but not as in "free beer" :))

Free information and free beer are both good...
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I have a valid reason. I accidentally tried to load an incorrect os after changing the VIN and VATS settings. My ecm is now locked from programming due to VATS. I could use a BDM and flash the bin directly to the rom in the ecm and be able to use it again rather than go to someone with dealer software to try doing this using external equipment. I understand my situation isn't common, but there are uses for the bin file beyond that of sharing with others.

By the way, after this experience, I recommend against sharing bin files as it can result in what I am dealing with now.