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I've got the Backup table REALLY GOOD....except for those "hard to reach in an automatic with giant converter" cells.....you know, after an hour of driving you only managed to hit the cell once and you're 40% off....ya know????:bash:
Now, I've copy and pasted my backup over the main VE table and taken each col to the right...copy each col that has a match in the backup table and paste it to the blank col immediately to the left. I've made the right 3 cols the same for WOT....I'm not sure if I should interpolate BETWEEN THE COLS or just duplicate them???? Wacha think? Not sure it matters.
All values are less than 3% except for the extreme hard ot reach areas and I've interpolated with surrounding cells to "make nice" as best I can.
I think I'm ready to restore the MAF and go at it again! :wave:
I'll be back
Chuck CoW
hey guys..... You know, this might be a stupid question..but, Is it cool that I have numbers in my VE table that exceed "100"....????
How is it that on a normally aspirated motor that I have in excess of 100% VE with no forced induction????
The cars I VE tune have cells that exceed 100 and the cars run great....
What Gives? anybody wanna make me feel better about this?
Chuck CoW
It's fine Chuck. I get 111.929% NA. I think it has more to do with fuel pressure fluctuations than actual VE.
Well, so far so good......but, Any suggestions about moving my backup VE over to the MAIN??Quote:
Originally Posted by TAQuickness
I've copy and pasted w/ lables and obviously only got every other col....I've tried duplicating the right col into the left....but. I don't think that's a good idea....
and...when faced with the possibility of doing the whole smoothing thing by hand.....WELL, that sucks...
any suggestions?
Chuck CoW
Why don't you do two maps in the Scan tool??? When you do the AutoVE runs, all you have to look at is the "big" BEN map, the BEN map for the backup VE table will also be fine afterwards ...
I ran 2 maps. I simply copied the main to the main and the backup to the backup. Scale doesn't come into the picture that way. The instructions say to RUN 2 MAPs to cover the main and backup issue.????????
Did you set up the second map with the same units as the backup VE table?
I'm gonna do it now. The issue is that the backup VE and main VE are not identical (even if you only consider the columns that match up). and When you do a copy paste w/ lables and multiply you are not placing the SAME data in both maps....you are only adjusting the existing main/backup values by the BEN table values....Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry
I would love to polish the VE on the main....but, Unless ross whips me up a custom os for 98 to allow the main VE to be used in the event of maf failure....we're stuck...
I've got a PERFECT backup VE now, but no real ACCURATE way to paste those valuses into the main VE....something will be left to interpretation and be ultimately lost.
The lesson here is that since the MAIN and BACKUP VE tables are not identical to begin with....running 2 maps in the scanner will not yield perfect (or even close to perfect) results.....
Anyone following me?
chuck cow
it's really not that difficult. the resolution is different between the two tables. Assuming you are starting from stock and apply the BEN corrections to both tables, you will be very close to spot on with the Main VE table when you are ready to re-enable the MAF. That is why the AutoVE tutorial is written the way it is.