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Guys, I actually have an E16a here (and some of the other PCM's used on these engines over the years), from what I have seen in this post and on various board, though you want tuning, you also want to start running big boost numbers etc, so next comes the custom OS requests etc.
Sorry to say but I don't think we will be supporting these anytime soon. The structure and concept of these PCM's is quite odd.
Cheers,
Ross
i honestly doubt you'll get any custom OS requests.. at this point nothing we'd like to be able to do requires anything more than modifying the fuel delivery and ignition parameters to accomodate timing add/remove and fuel add/remove in conjunction w/ larger injectors. i haven't seen a single build of a 2.2 where anything else would have been desired. for god's sakes i'm running an Aeromotive DFMU to tune an additional fuel pump for 10psi for fuel delivery addition only.Quote:
Originally Posted by GMPX
those of us doing large builds have already put standalones on the car and will likely continue to do so. a reliable form of tuning fit for a daily driver that's been modded outside factory limits (8-12psi is what most of us are looking at) is all we're asking for.
oh well - i figured it was worth a shot since y'all looked like you were gonna support the gamut of GM ECMs. maybe once you see this poll rise up to 30-50+ (as it has on other tuning vendors' sites) you'll change your mind.
As soon as tuning comes out ill buy it.
30hr later... 10 confirmed buyers. not bad for a saturn. :lol: gotta say it's one of the best group buys i've seen, hehe.
Guess what guys, the Vortec I6 guys feel your pain. We had to wait a LONG time (as in EFILive supported the 4.2L I6 LL8 motor in early 06, they came out mid 01) to get diddly squat, so I know where you guys are coming from. At least you guys can run boost, the second we slap a supercharger/turbo on we get Reduced Engine Power mode (yay 30mph). :( And we still dont have COS, and highly doubt we ever will.
Just to put it in to perspective, it takes between 1 month - 3 months to add support (even preliminary) for a whole new PCM type assuming everything goes well. Now assume myself and Paul were contractors we'd charge maybe $100 per hour x 3 months. This is the reality of it, time is money which unfortunately 30 sales can't justify.
There is one plus for the E16 from my perspective, it uses a 68332 variant CPU, this means it might even share some code with the other GM controllers. I have always wondered what the heck is the Atmel chip on the board?
These are the 3 ECM's I have here for that engine. As you can see, we did have evaluated these before.
Cheers,
Ross
P.S - The TCM might already be supported on some of these? I am not sure.
Atmel is a company that makes EEPROM chips, if that helps at all *shrug*
oh well, again, figured it was worth a shot. SCT has already developed a flash-tune for the 2.2 in the Garrett turbo kit for 2.2 cobalts - they just haven't confirmed they're going to expand their efforts to a user-driven programmer.
In addition to EEPROM's, Atmel also do make other automotive asic's, like CAN devices and FPGA's, so it's hard to tell without a part no.
id buy it
count me in!
I think it is a great idea...~!