BB Logging update (March 4th)

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March 4th, 2008
kbracing96

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

If you can provide the serial data format that your TechEdge outputs, we should be able to add support for it.

Regards
Paul

Is this the info you need?

http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/1v5/techo.htm
March 4th, 2008
Gelf VXR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

Yes, EFILive will log multiple* Innovate devices.

The initial relaese may only support one, but it has been set up to handle mutliple devices and the firmware will eventually support more than one.

*Limited to four Wide band devices.

Regards
Paul

Excellent! thanks
March 4th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by tunedbyGM

Is this what you needed for the JAW ?

That should be sufficient. Obviously you'd need to test it for me since I don't have that wide band here :)

Regards
Paul
March 4th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbracing96

Is this the info you need?

http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/1v5/techo.htm

Perfect, thanks.
Paul
March 5th, 2008
Chevy366

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

That should be sufficient. Obviously you'd need to test it for me since I don't have that wide band here :)

Regards
Paul

Will do , once firmware has been released . :master:
March 5th, 2008
Goldfinger911

Oh man! I am just starting AutoVE again after a new intake and injectors. I cant WAIT for this firmware update!!

Paul - Your like Santa Claus. Hahahaha. Good work mate.
March 5th, 2008
dc_justin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

And for those with "eagle eyes", yes the Console has moved from the F12 tab page to the F6 tab page and the new Dynamic Vehicle Testing (DVT) controls will be available on the F12 tab page.

Note: DVT = Bi-directional controls.

The bi-directional controls will work correctly with high speed logging.
They will be implemented over the coming months for as many supported controllers as we can.

Regards
Paul

Ooh, I missed this part of the post initially. That is GREAT! Will this include anything new (such as injector balance test) and a case relearn on other controllers?
March 5th, 2008
Cougar281

How will DVT affect us Diesel guys? Also, any updates on the 6 speed Allison read problems?
March 5th, 2008
joecar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

And for those with "eagle eyes", yes the Console has moved from the F12 tab page to the F6 tab page and the new Dynamic Vehicle Testing (DVT) controls will be available on the F12 tab page.

Note: DVT = Bi-directional controls.

The bi-directional controls will work correctly with high speed logging.
They will be implemented over the coming months for as many supported controllers as we can.

Regards
Paul

Does this mean if you undock the tabs you can view the dash while using bidi controls...?
March 5th, 2008
dc_justin

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecar

Does this mean if you undock the tabs you can view the dash while using bidi controls...?

You can do that now. :cheers:
March 5th, 2008
joecar

Quote:

Originally Posted by dc_justin

You can do that now. :cheers:

Yes, you can... :cheers:

I just have to remember to start recording before doing bidi... (I usually forget :doh:but that's just a personal problem :fluffy:)...

unless it has changed... wait, let me test it out again...
March 5th, 2008
dc_justin

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecar

Yes, you can... :cheers: ... I just have to remember to start recording before doing bidi... (I usually forget :doh:but that's just a personal problem :fluffy:)...

unless it has changed... wait, let me test it out again...

Other way around. You have to have the bidi window open before recording if you're in stream-fast. In General or dynamic, you can open at any time.
March 5th, 2008
joecar

Yes, you're right... can you tell I'm having a day...

me -> :bash: <-day
March 5th, 2008
Chevy366

So what is the protocol of the serial on the V2 cable , pin 2 Tx and pin 3 Rx or other way around ?

Thanks
March 5th, 2008
JezzaB

With this exciting stuff coming up I thought I would contact PLX see if they can help us boys. I know the SM-AFR unit has a TX and RX serial ports for daisy chaining units:

Quote:

....please pass this along to EFI live. This is the serial protocol for the SM-AFR

The iMFD Digital output is

19200 Baud
8 Data Bits
1 Stop Bit
No parity

Packet format is as follows for the SM-AFR

1) Start bit (0x80)
2) Address bit MSB (0x00) for SM-AFR
3) Address bit LSB (0x00) for SM-AFR
4) Instance (0x00) if only one SM-AFR is connected
5) Data MSB
6) Data LSB
7) Stop bit (0x40)
(Packet set repeats exactly every 100mS)

Interpreting the data bits is as follows.

int datamsb;
int datalsb;
int data;

datamsb = datamsb & 0x3F; //This ignores 2 most significant bits
datalsb = datalsb & 0x3F;

data = (datamsb << 6) | datalsb; //data is the AFR value

when data is 0, AFR is 10 (gasoline) = 0.68 lambda
when data is 255, AFR is 20 (gasoline) = 1.36 lambda
when data is 256 AFR is "lean"
when data is 257 AFR is "Air"

All you'll need is a Max232 chip to convert TTL to RS232 levels
_________________
PL
PLX Engineer
www.plxdevices.com

Looks like ill be making up a cable :)
Jez
March 5th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by dc_justin

Ooh, I missed this part of the post initially. That is GREAT! Will this include anything new (such as injector balance test) and a case relearn on other controllers?

Initially only the controls will only be activated manually. The actual tests, that perform multiple actions and produce a result (like cylinder balance tests and injector balance tests) will be implemented on a per controller basis.

CASE will be included for all controllers fow which we have the CASE bi directional data (I believe the E38 is covered).

Regards
Paul
March 5th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cougar281

How will DVT affect us Diesel guys? Also, any updates on the 6 speed Allison read problems?

We will be implementing as many bi-di controls for the diesels as we can.
The Allison 6 speed is being worked on this weekend.
We'll post up the status on Monday - pm me on Monday night if I have not posted.

Regards
Paul
March 5th, 2008
Blacky

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joecar

Does this mean if you undock the tabs you can view the dash while using bidi controls...?

Yes, see screen shot...
Paul
March 5th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecar

Yes, you can... :cheers:

I just have to remember to start recording before doing bidi... (I usually forget :doh:but that's just a personal problem :fluffy:)...

unless it has changed... wait, let me test it out again...

It has changed in the new version, you can start/stop bi-di controls any time in any scan mode.

Regards
Paul
March 5th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by tunedbyGM

So what is the protocol of the serial on the V2 cable , pin 2 Tx and pin 3 Rx or other way around ?
Thanks

There are two types of serial interfaces. Data Terminal Equipment (DTE) and Data Communications Equipment (DCE). Traditiaonlly the PC (or terminal) is considered the DTE and a modem (or whatever you are connecting to the PC) is considered the DCE.

FlashScan is technically a DCE because it connects directly to a PC. DCE equipment (i.e. FlashScan ) transmits on pin 2 and recieves on pin 3.

For anyone who is interested...
The wideband controllers are also DCE because they connect directly to a PC. Because FlashScan and the wide band controllers are both DCE, when connecting them directly to each other, you need to connect pin 2 to pin 3 and pin 3 to pin 2.

Regards
Paul
March 5th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by JezzaB

Looks like ill be making up a cable :)
Jez

Make sure you take note of this comment:
All you'll need is a Max232 chip to convert TTL to RS232 levels

Regards
Paul
March 5th, 2008
ScarabEpic22

Wow guys, I cant wait for some more DVT controls whenever they get implemented. Being able to lock my trans on a dyno would be great for power plus being able to hit the cells you cant hit (safely) on the street!
March 5th, 2008
Chevy366

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

There are two types of serial interfaces. Data Terminal Equipment (DTE) and Data Communications Equipment (DCE). Traditiaonlly the PC (or terminal) is considered the DTE and a modem (or whatever you are connecting to the PC) is considered the DCE.

FlashScan is technically a DCE because it connects directly to a PC. DCE equipment (i.e. FlashScan ) transmits on pin 2 and recieves on pin 3.

For anyone who is interested...
The wideband controllers are also DCE because they connect directly to a PC. Because FlashScan and the wide band controllers are both DCE, when connecting them directly to each other, you need to connect pin 2 to pin 3 and pin 3 to pin 2.

Regards
Paul

Thanks for the info .
March 5th, 2008
TAQuickness

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

Yes, see screen shot...
Paul

What a tease! :D
March 5th, 2008
mr.prick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

For those of you wanting to get a jump start on the LC-1, LM-1 serial interface logging, you will need to construct a crossover cable that connects the Innovate serial cable to the FlashScan serial cable.

See attached images.

Regards
Paul

will this need to be a custom cable, or will any serial to serial bridge work?
and when will this go live?
i am not going to run the beta with all the complaints i`ve seen.
March 5th, 2008
joecar

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.prick

will this need to be a custom cable, or will any serial to serial bridge work?
and when will this go live?
i am not going to run the beta with all the complaints i`ve seen.

Any DB9-male-to-DB9-male null modem cable (i.e. it crosses pins 2 and 3 (Tx and Rx)) should work.

If you're going to wait, then look at the last option in post #34: showpost.php?p=64469&postcount=34

That low profile null modem adapter is just pefect.
March 5th, 2008
JezzaB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

Make sure you take note of this comment:
All you'll need is a Max232 chip to convert TTL to RS232 levels

Regards
Paul

No problems there Paul. Ill make one up on the weekend and if you can intergrate the protocol, ill test it out when the beta is released.

Jez
March 6th, 2008
ringram

Right that does it. Im going to have to buy a car so I can use DVT and serial WB!
Time to rid myself of this Ford..

BTW: Those null modem adapters are on ebay as well.
March 6th, 2008
Bruce Melton

Maybe when this is available we can get a dummied down version?
I am going with a LM-2 and will need the Cliff Notes when all this bleeding edge stuff is resolved. :Eyecrazy:
Thanks for the evolution.
March 6th, 2008
oztracktuning

I will be interested in what you find with the PLX serial logging Jezzab
March 7th, 2008
Treurentner

Hi Paul,

Will be the datastream from AEM gauge type Wideband also supported?
It´s an AEM UEGO 30-4100
Information about the datastream is here:
http://www.carbide-red.com/pdf/aem_uego_30-4100.pdf
Many thanks!

Marco
March 7th, 2008
Cougar281

Paul, will we be able to initiate fast learn on the Allison controllers without clearing taps like the PPE programmer can?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

We will be implementing as many bi-di controls for the diesels as we can.
The Allison 6 speed is being worked on this weekend.
We'll post up the status on Monday - pm me on Monday night if I have not posted.

Regards
Paul
March 7th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treurentner

Hi Paul,

Will be the datastream from AEM gauge type Wideband also supported?
It´s an AEM UEGO 30-4100
Information about the datastream is here:
http://www.carbide-red.com/pdf/aem_uego_30-4100.pdf
Many thanks!

Marco

It looks like that can be supported :)
Regards
Paul
March 7th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by tunedbyGM

public static double[] Lambda ={ 2.33, 2.26, 2.20, 2.13, 2.07, 2.01, 1.95, 1.90, 1.85, 1.80, 1.75, 1.70, 1.66, 1.62, 1.58, 1.54, 1.50, 1.47, 1.44, 1.40, 1.37, 1.34, 1.31, 1.29, 1.26, 1.24, 1.21, 1.19, 1.17, 1.15, 11.2, 1.10, 1.08, 1.06, 1.05, 1.03, 1.00, 1.00, 0.99, 0.98, 0.97, 0.96, 0.95, 0.94, 0.93, 0.92, 0.92, 0.91, 0.90, 0.89, 0.89, 0.88, 0.87, 0.86, 0.86, 0.85, 0.84, 0.84, 0.83, 0.83, 0.82, 0.81, 0.81, 0.80, 0.80, 0.79, 0.79, 0.78, 0.78, 0.77, 0.77, 0.76, 0.75, 0.75, 0.74, 0.74, 0.73, 0.73, 0.72, 0.72, 0.71, 0.71, 0.70, 0.70, 0.69 };

Might want to let the JAW guys know there is an error in the Lambda lookup array. I think it should be 1.12 not 11.2

Regards
Paul
March 7th, 2008
Chevy366

Son of a gun , will do .
They also say 2(Tx) , 3 (Rx) , and baud Rate is 14400. The data format is 8N1.

Thanks
Gil
March 7th, 2008
ntae

For the PLX users there is some talk over at PLX

http://www.forum.plxdevices.com/view...hp?p=6481#6481

Geoff
March 7th, 2008
TAQuickness

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntae

For the PLX users there is some talk over at PLX

http://www.forum.plxdevices.com/view...hp?p=6481#6481

Geoff

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's cool!
March 8th, 2008
Highlander

Note: SFCable Inc does not ship to Puerto Rico... bunch of racist bastards!!!
March 8th, 2008
Lennart

While being on topic, PLX needs some help in the enhanced OBD paramters for their recently released DM-200 OBD gauge. It is a very neat looking unit but unfortunately only supports generic OBD stuff.
I would love to see an EFILive enhanced edition of that device which would be useful for many of us.
March 8th, 2008
macca_779

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntae

For the PLX users there is some talk over at PLX

http://www.forum.plxdevices.com/view...hp?p=6481#6481

Geoff

Nice work Geoff.. I'll be hitting you up to convert mine once we're out of Beta.

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