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May 8th, 2008
02Z06

Problems with PIDS -E38 ECM

I just updated to the latest firmware for FS (5/06) and I see that the E38 PID EQ RAT is not in there. Instead there is AFRATIO_M. I need to log some sort of commanded AFR and this PID is shown on FS as unsupported. Is there a way to get EQ RATIO back on the List or a way to get support for AFRATIO_M?

Thanks, Jim
May 8th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02Z06

I just updated to the latest firmware for FS (5/06) and I see that the E38 PID EQ RAT is not in there. Instead there is AFRATIO_M. I need to log some sort of commanded AFR and this PID is shown on FS as unsupported. Is there a way to get EQ RATIO back on the List or a way to get support for AFRATIO_M?

Thanks, Jim

The support/non-support of _M PIDs (DAM PIDs) is base don operating system number. What is the operating system number of your E38? If the AFRATIO PID is not supported for your OS, we'll get it added asap.

Regards
Paul
May 9th, 2008
joecar

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecar

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevinsb

Would it be possible to save active DTCs for a vehicle on the SD/internal memory?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

Yes, try this:
F2 Scan Tool -> F2 Diagnostics -> F4 Record All Diags.
That will create a text file called DTCxxxxx that you can copy to your PC and open/view with Notepad.

Here's an example I pulled from my LS1B... it shows the states of the continuous/non-continous monitors (I xxx'd out my VIN).

Paul,

Will Mode $06 data be included in the file saved by F4 Record All Diags...?

Cheers
Joe
May 9th, 2008
joecar

Some observations

V2 inverse video works great in bright sunlight... :cheers:
Is there a way to toggle this with a key/hotkey without having to go into settings to toggle it...?
(As I'm driving I'm passing from sunlight to shade and back again several times).

V2 power down mode seems to work (key off, wait for set time, V2 turns off LCD)...
but when turning key on, V2 stays powered down until button pressed.

I noticed that if you turn key off during a log, and then turn key on, V2 displays the pid labels with no values (i.e. value fields are blank).
May 9th, 2008
02Z06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

The support/non-support of _M PIDs (DAM PIDs) is base don operating system number. What is the operating system number of your E38? If the AFRATIO PID is not supported for your OS, we'll get it added asap.

Regards
Paul

Hi Paul,

My E38 OS is 12612281. (08 Z06 ). Thanks for the help.
May 9th, 2008
thunder550

Just did this update...running Vista. Now when I try to close EFILive Explorer I get an error - Cannot create file "c:\program files\EFILive\EFILive_Hapi\EFILive_Explorer.ini". Access is denied.
May 9th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecar

Paul,

Will Mode $06 data be included in the file saved by F4 Record All Diags...?

Cheers
Joe

Yes, CAN mode $06 is currently included, albeit with the signed/unsigned bug still causing issues for some MID/TID combos.
VPW Mode $06 will be added in one of the next updates.

Regards
Paul
May 9th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecar

V2 inverse video works great in bright sunlight... :cheers:
Is there a way to toggle this with a key/hotkey without having to go into settings to toggle it...?
(As I'm driving I'm passing from sunlight to shade and back again several times).

Good idea, but I'm running out of hotkeys... I'll see what I can do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecar

V2 power down mode seems to work (key off, wait for set time, V2 turns off LCD)...
but when turning key on, V2 stays powered down until button pressed.

Power down mode can only be exited by keypad input or USB coms. It can't be exited from CAN or VPW messages because in power down mode FlashScan disconnects itself from the CAN or VPW bus.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecar

I noticed that if you turn key off during a log, and then turn key on, V2 displays the pid labels with no values (i.e. value fields are blank).

I will investigate.

Paul
May 9th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunder550

Just did this update...running Vista. Now when I try to close EFILive Explorer I get an error - Cannot create file "c:\program files\EFILive\EFILive_Hapi\EFILive_Explorer.ini". Access is denied.

Try deleting that file.
Regards
Paul
May 9th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02Z06

Hi Paul,

My E38 OS is 12612281. (08 Z06 ). Thanks for the help.

GM.AFRATIO_M is fully supported for your operating system. You should try re-validating the PIDs against your vehicle to make EFILive validate any new PID names that it has not seen (or validated) before.

Regards
Paul
May 9th, 2008
dfe1

Have the TPS position issues with E38/E67 processors been resolved? I find that in both bbl and when using V2 in pass-through that max indicated TPS is 80-88%
May 9th, 2008
swingtan

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfe1

Have the TPS position issues with E38/E67 processors been resolved? I find that in both bbl and when using V2 in pass-through that max indicated TPS is 80-88%

Are you logging GM.ETCTP or GM.TP? For the E38's here is Aus, you must log using GM.ETCTP for it to actually indicate throttle %. GM.TP will give a reading, but it will be a % of the 5v signal for the fly by wire system. GM.TP will max out at 80%

Simon.
May 9th, 2008
TFZ_Z06

I found this post and multiple links confusing. Tell me if this looks correct:

Download and overwrite current data in following order:
http://download2.efilive.com/Softwar...ch_26_2008.zip
http://download2.efilive.com/Softwar...il_14_2008.zip
http://download2.efilive.com/Softwar...il_26_2008.zip
http://download2.efilive.com/Softwar...ay_06_2008.zip

Press CTRL on V2 device, then plug in USB Cable.
Write Firmware Using V8/EFILive_Explorer.exe->>Downloaded from May 06 2008 Update
v2.4.72

Using Same, update to
2.5.8 BootBlock

Using Same, update to
2.5.17 (506)

Refresh Indicates 2.5.8 Bootblock and 2.5.17 (506) firmware. I hope this works.
May 9th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06

I found this post and multiple links confusing. Tell me if this looks correct:

Download and overwrite current data in following order:
http://download2.efilive.com/Softwar...ch_26_2008.zip
http://download2.efilive.com/Softwar...il_14_2008.zip
http://download2.efilive.com/Softwar...il_26_2008.zip
http://download2.efilive.com/Softwar...ay_06_2008.zip

Press CTRL on V2 device, then plug in USB Cable.
Write Firmware Using V8/EFILive_Explorer.exe->>Downloaded from May 06 2008 Update
v2.4.72

Using Same, update to
2.5.8 BootBlock

Using Same, update to
2.5.17 (506)

Refresh Indicates 2.5.8 Bootblock and 2.5.17 (506) firmware. I hope this works.

Yes, that's right, but just to clarify the FlashScan update process:

1. Update firmware to V7.4.72 using FlashScan Firmware programmer.
2. Use the menu option in FlashScan to upgrade boot block to V2.05.08
3. FlashSCan will stay in dead poll (two flashing orange LEDs) until new V2.05.xx firmware is programmed.
4. Use EFILive_Explorer.exe (downloaded as part of the BBL download) to reprogram the V2.05.17(0506) firmware.

That should be all you need to do.

Regards
Paul
May 9th, 2008
02Z06

1 Attachment(s)

Cannot open log with V7.5.3

After installing Bootblock V2.05.08 and the latest firmware I logged a test session (E38 ECM). I moved the logfile in explorer to (logged Data) in V 7.5.3 and I get a pop-up(in the scan tool) that says the file needs to be opened with 7.5 or later ( thats what I am using) any idea what this is?
I have included the log file I cannot open.

Thanks, Jim
May 9th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02Z06

After installing Bootblock V2.05.08 and the latest firmware I logged a test session (E38 ECM). I moved the logfile in explorer to (logged Data) in V 7.5.3 and I get a pop-up(in the scan tool) that says the file needs to be opened with 7.5 or later ( thats what I am using) any idea what this is?
I have included the log file I cannot open.

Thanks, Jim

The error message is wrong, it should say you need to use V7.5.4 or later, not just 7.5 or later.

To update your EFILive software to V7.5.4, you need to extract ALL the files in the BBL download zip file into the folder: \Program Files\EFILive\V7.5 (overwrite existing files).

Regards
Paul
May 9th, 2008
02Z06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

The error message is wrong, it should say you need to use V7.5.4 or later, not just 7.5 or later.

To update your EFILive software to V7.5.4, you need to extract ALL the files in the BBL download zip file into the folder: \Program Files\EFILive\V7.5 (overwrite existing files).

Regards
Paul

Thanks Paul,

That fixed the problem reading the log files. I must have missed the update to 7.5.4.

Jim
May 9th, 2008
02Z06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

GM.AFRATIO_M is fully supported for your operating system. You should try re-validating the PIDs against your vehicle to make EFILive validate any new PID names that it has not seen (or validated) before.

Regards
Paul

In the E38 config. file the PID is shown as( ECM, AFR_B|AFRATIO_M ) could this be the reason that V2 said to Deselect it?
May 9th, 2008
swingtan

When logging Commanded AFR for my E38, I use the following line in the options.ini file....

ECM, AFRATIO_M

This works for me.

Simon
May 9th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02Z06

In the E38 config. file the PID is shown as( ECM, AFR_B|AFRATIO_M ) could this be the reason that V2 said to Deselect it?

I would be interested to know your results if you removed the AFR_B| and just had ECM,AFRATIO_M.

Regards
Paul
May 9th, 2008
02Z06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

I would be interested to know your results if you removed the AFR_B| and just had ECM,AFRATIO_M.

Regards
Paul

I will edit the config. file and give that a try.
May 10th, 2008
02Z06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

I would be interested to know your results if you removed the AFR_B| and just had ECM,AFRATIO_M.

Regards
Paul

I just re-configured the V2 with the AFRATIO_M Pid and it still says de-select this Pid.
May 10th, 2008
XLR8NSS

Quote:

Originally Posted by swingtan

Are you logging GM.ETCTP or GM.TP? For the E38's here is Aus, you must log using GM.ETCTP for it to actually indicate throttle %. GM.TP will give a reading, but it will be a % of the 5v signal for the fly by wire system. GM.TP will max out at 80%

Simon.

I was having the same problem logging GM.TP. I changed to GM.ETCTP and now see the correct TPS reading on my E38.

Thanks for the tip.
May 10th, 2008
TFZ_Z06

Just wanted to report in. I have upgraded FlashScanV2 and tested a PCM READ and SCANNING. Everything seems to work flawless.
May 10th, 2008
dfe1

Quote:

Originally Posted by swingtan

Are you logging GM.ETCTP or GM.TP? For the E38's here is Aus, you must log using GM.ETCTP for it to actually indicate throttle %. GM.TP will give a reading, but it will be a % of the 5v signal for the fly by wire system. GM.TP will max out at 80%

Simon.

Thanks. That's probably the problem. I'll try it next time I data log an E38.
May 10th, 2008
TFZ_Z06

Well, guess I was wrong. The scanner will not log O2 sensor voltages.
Any ideas?
May 10th, 2008
swingtan

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06

Well, guess I was wrong. The scanner will not log O2 sensor voltages.
Any ideas?

Try reading the PID description files in

EFILive\V8\EFILive_Hapi\Pid Descriptions

These files list all the supported PIDs and their descriptions for each controller. All you need to do is select the required PID's and enter them correctly into the options.ini file, then copy the options.ini file to the V2 unit.

For example, to log O2 sensor voltages in the E38, add these lines...

ECM, O2S11V
ECM, O2S21V

Remember to watch your channel count when adding additional PIDs.

Simon.
May 11th, 2008
thunder550

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

Try deleting that file.
Regards
Paul

Deleted it and still getting the same error.
May 11th, 2008
Cougar281

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but if I clear DTCs on my LLY, I get an Error $0281 again.
May 11th, 2008
joecar

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06

Well, guess I was wrong. The scanner will not log O2 sensor voltages.
Any ideas?

Is this on your 2002 LS1/LS6...?

Did you select the LS1B_x pids...?

In your Option.ini file, for your selected pid list, does the channel count add up to 24 or less...?

Does the V2 display voltages for H02Snn...?

In the scantool, when viewing those BBL logs, have you entered your VIN and OS ID...?

Save your Options.in file somewhere safe, and try my options.ini...

Cheers
Joe
May 11th, 2008
TFZ_Z06

Quote:

Originally Posted by swingtan

Try reading the PID description files in

EFILive\V8\EFILive_Hapi\Pid Descriptions

These files list all the supported PIDs and their descriptions for each controller. All you need to do is select the required PID's and enter them correctly into the options.ini file, then copy the options.ini file to the V2 unit.

For example, to log O2 sensor voltages in the E38, add these lines...

ECM, O2S11V
ECM, O2S21V

Remember to watch your channel count when adding additional PIDs.

Simon.

Got it fixed up. Just ran a 1 hour test of scanning w/bb. Thanks.
May 11th, 2008
joecar

Cool... "I love it when a plan comes together..." :cheers:
May 11th, 2008
TFZ_Z06

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecar

Cool... "I love it when a plan comes together..." :cheers:

by thew way, I used your options file and modfied to taste for my car...
whats the best way to retrieve data? Use an SD card and the explorer to read it back??
May 11th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02Z06

I just re-configured the V2 with the AFRATIO_M Pid and it still says de-select this Pid.

Are you sure, you've copied the latest *.pmm files from the downloaded/extracted zip file to the [Config] tab page in EFILive_Explorer?

Regards
Paul
May 11th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cougar281

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but if I clear DTCs on my LLY, I get an Error $0281 again.

After deleting codes, can you save the trace file and email it to me at [email protected]. The trace file option is in the scan tool options menu on FlashScan.

Regards
Paul
May 11th, 2008
02Z06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

Are you sure, you've copied the latest *.pmm files from the downloaded/extracted zip file to the [Config] tab page in EFILive_Explorer?

Regards
Paul

This is the file I used: http://download2.efilive.com/Softwar...ay_06_2008.zip

Jim
May 11th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunder550

Deleted it and still getting the same error.

Exit from all EFILive software.

1. Run regedit
On XP click start->Run, enter regedit and click ok.
On Vista, click start, enter regedit into the search box (just above the start button) and click on the regedit link that appears.

2. Locate the key
\\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\EFILive\V7\Properties \Dir
or
\\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\EFILive\V7.5\Properti es\Dir
depending on whether you are running V7.4 or V7.5

3. Delete the Dir key and all its subkeys.

4. Restart the scan tool.

Deleting that key will clear all "known" EFILive folder locations. The next time EFILive is started it will figure out the correct folder names - assuming the software is installed correctly.

If that does not work, uninstall the software, delete the registry key:
\\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\EFILive\V7.5 (or V7)
That will reset ALL EFILive's settings.

Note: uninstalling and re-installing the software does not reset the registry information. That is why I suggested doing it manually.

Regards
Paul
May 11th, 2008
Blacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06

by thew way, I used your options file and modfied to taste for my car...
whats the best way to retrieve data? Use an SD card and the explorer to read it back??

Yes, that's good.

It is even faster if your PC has a card reader and you plug the SD card into your PC and extract the files that way just using Windows Explorer (instead of EFILive_Explorer).

Regards
Paul
May 11th, 2008
02Z06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky

Are you sure, you've copied the latest *.pmm files from the downloaded/extracted zip file to the [Config] tab page in EFILive_Explorer?

Regards
Paul

Just double- checked the .pmm files. The Config. tab page shows they were all created 5-03-08 @ 8:57PM. I assume these are the latest?
May 11th, 2008
joecar

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06

by thew way, I used your options file and modfied to taste for my car...
whats the best way to retrieve data? Use an SD card and the explorer to read it back??

That's exactly what I do...

I log to the SD card and I read it back with EE... :good:

I have multiple laptops/PCs so I only delete the log files from V2 when I know all laptops/PCs are sync'd up.

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