Here you go : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa1RCg-Ccp0
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Here you go : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa1RCg-Ccp0
IIRC Mac's are on a BSD kernel....So is that what Mac is underneath?
See here: Darwin
"Leopard is an Open Brand UNIX 03 registered product on the Intel platform. It is also the first BSD-based OS to receive UNIX 03 certification.[67][68]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osx
Ok, I too grew up with C and Unix. One of those big auto parts stores to be exact. I'm in when I can find the time.
My 2 bits. I am a linux and Mac user currently forced into retirement by the economy. My first unix experience was V7 long ago and I have passing acquaintance with a bunch of others in the interim. In addition to using linux as my desktop, I embedded it in instruments. I have never run Windows as a desktop but am forced to use it with VMware, VirtualPC, Parallels, etc on top of unix to tune. I would love to dispense with the VM.
I am rather surprised at the number of, if not *nix heads, people with passing familiarity here.
I was running WinXP on VMware Fusion... then I installed it natively using boot camp and I like this much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by critter
Yeah, I'm a *nix head... I compile linux kernels from the development kernel git tree just about every week; I'm one of the developers for the qla2xxx fibre channel boards/chips (lol... my code has made it on the linux kernel tree...:rockon:)... I used Version 7 a few lifetimes ago.
Cool! :grin:Quote:
Originally Posted by joecar
Wow , like this , no I am not a coder .http://porno-bullen.de/~bluebird/ini...xxx/readme.txtQuote:
Originally Posted by joecar
Kernel compile , haven't done that in years (first learned with SuSE) , ah the good old days .
Yup, the qla2xxx driver is seeing that that particluar "embedded" card's nvram does not contain a valid wwpn (world wide port name, the FC analog of Ethernet's MAC address) so it complained, but still allowed operation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevy366
I work integrating and testing IBM P and I series servers. They will soon be offering Linux preloads as an alternative to AIX. Don't know which flavor yet. This is interesting considering how much Big Blue likes their proprietary O/S's.
Helloo Joe,
You mean unix I think.
Linux is like kind but not the same.
Regards,
98 tigershark
Quote:
Originally Posted by joecar
98TS, yes, I have since found out it's a Unix derivative...:cheers:
Does anyone here know what OS your PCM uses?
98 tigershark
Think Ross Perot!
Hint, Ross Perot put up the majority of the venture capital for Steve Jobs's NeXT computer project in 1986.
Nothing hacked from a PC, it's just a custom written embedded OS by GM/Delphi.Quote:
Originally Posted by 98 tigershark
You got me pretty good earlier. I actually think the answer is EDS! Ross Perots Company and PCM system he sold to GM or so I am told.
98 tigershark
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMPX
Yeah I guess anything that ran on a PC would be too risky with their tendencies to go into the "standard feature" limbo mode for seconds at a time...:shock:. PC's even with Linux dont seem to handle real time all that well.Quote:
Originally Posted by GMPX
There is no markers in there to say who wrote it, so I am guessing it was done in house. Unlike Bosch who run ERCOSEK by ETAS.
http://www2.lauterbach.com/doc/rtosercosek.pdf
I think Ross Perot did what Bill Gates did to the guy who invented DOS, purchased the system for peanuts and then Sold it to GM for 3 Billion. He also sold his company that ran the book keeping for Medicare to GM. The Company was called EDS, I think. That was the same company that GM also used the system they got from EDS for their EFI OBD, Right?
98 tigershark
Quote:
Originally Posted by gmh308
I'd like to start playing with this. I'm moving my business computers to Linux, our file server and my desk are already there.
I've already got our CAD software running on it under WINE. Runs better under WINE than it does under Win7. Go figure.
Apple is OpenBSD "Darwin" IIRC. Kinda like Linux, but it's not.
I'm running Ubuntu 32-bit Linux.
OK, using the Crossover version of WINE, and starting with the latest version of EFILive 7, it decompresses, throws up the Splash screen, then asks if you want to update the registry. At that point it freezes. Neither Win98/XP/Vista bottles would do it.
I'll see if it will manually install.
I got EFILive to install and run, just no USB after so no controller communication .Quote:
Originally Posted by McRat
You have to some how tie the USB driver recognition and install to the Codeweaver install or get the Codeweaver install to use USB communication through the EFILive software.
Thanks for reminding me, I still got that free codeweavers key I gotta use.
Don't bother with the Crossover for playing with EFILive, it currently won't work.
I loaded Wine 1.2 rc2 and it loaded fine.
Yes, the USB thingy is an issue, and I'm trying the "fix". If it works, I'll post how I did it.
It's pretty complicated for a newbie like me and required recompiling Wine it seems. After 2 hours I still didn't get it completely set up. I'll try again today.
Paul - I put in a service ticket at Codeweaver, there is a problem with their system and the EFILive installer. I uh, well.... also mentioned to them that you are interested in a Linux port. Don't hate me. :D they do that stuff professionally and are top level Wine developers (they develop Wine and the Codeweaver product).
Sure, Wine is not really native Linux, but you can't really tell. It hauls butt, and doesn't require a Win license or Win updates. Any solution that works, works. Plus it would allow you to package a Linux version without releasing source code for EFILive, which I don't believe the Linux license permits?
Good to hear that you are pursuing this further , I didn't give up just got sidetracked .Quote:
Originally Posted by McRat
Will try with openSUSE WINE if I get some time in the next few days .
Codeweaver will write code to support the USB but at a cost , the Serial to USB chip that is used by the V2 shows to be driver supported already in the Kernel .
Do keep us posted as to what you find out .
Fellow Linux enthusiast.
<<<<< DO NOT USE THIS >>>>>
Saving this for notes. This is the "fix" for running USB support under Wine. It takes over an hour to compile, type these commands in 1 by 1 in the Terminal:
Code:git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git ~/wine-git
cd ~/wine-git
sudo apt-get build-dep wine
sudo apt-get install libusb-1.0-0-dev
git branch usb-1.1.28 wine-1.1.28
git checkout usb-1.1.28
wget ftp://ftp.etersoft.ru/pub/people/amorozov/usb/1.1.28/0001-Add-support-of-native-Windows-drivers-for-USB-tokens.txt
wget ftp://ftp.etersoft.ru/pub/people/amorozov/usb/1.1.28/0002-Re-generate-some-files.txt
git am 0001-Add-support-of-native-Windows-drivers-for-USB-tokens.txt 0002-Re-generate-some-files.txt
./tools/make_makefiles
./configure
make depend
make
sudo make install
OK, I need you to do me a favor. Put a program on a USB memory stick, and try to open it with EFILive under Wine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevy366
I forgot to check before the "fix".
Right now, I can open USB files running EFILive under Wine, but I cannot see the V2 unit.
Pat, with all due respect, it sounds like you're blowing way more time getting EFILive to just work under Linux than you spent "Managing & Updating" Windows, where "Stuff just works".
I told one of my friends that DOES know linux very well what you said about Windows being harder/more time consuming to administer and update than linux and his exact words where "He's Nuts".
Okay , if I get a chance this weekend , never mind Winders users comments , you know install Winders , now I have to install every driver and restart 20 times , wow so easy . ;-0Quote:
Originally Posted by McRat
I have to say in Winders things do just work , Viruses , Trojans , Back Door Key Loggers , so he is correct . ;-)
Of course buy a Laptop/Netbook , Desktop with Winders pre-installed , no sweat , see how easy that was . ;-)
Hey try this , go into EFILive in WINE and find the "drivers" folder and it holds the drivers for the V2 FTDI chip (Serial to USB) , see if it will run in WINE , look for C:\Windows>Program Files>EFILive>Drivers , you may have to "dmesg" or "lsusb" to find the Port assigned to the USB in WINE .
Okay looked and did not see a USB device in EFILive when rooting around , man EFILive works flawlessly in Linux in WINE , but no USB , not giving up will try on and off this weekend .
I've never attempted to set up EFILive on Linux, but you may need to use linux drivers underneath wine to allow wine to see the ftdi USB devices. (http://www.ftdichip.com/FTDrivers.htm)
If you do, you may need to modify the linux drivers supplied by ftdi to use the correct VID and PID for EFIlive's devices.
VID=0403 PID=E4A0 for EFILive FlashScan FSP (i.e. V1)
VID=0403 PID=E4A1 for EFILive FlashScan V2
VID=0403 PID=E4A3 for EFILive AutoCal V2
Regards
Paul
I've never used EFILive yet, I'm still trying to get to that point. My goal is to use it to tune my 94 caprice classic with an LT1, using either a max232 interface or a 2 transistor interface via ALDL. I would just install windows, but I have managed to lose the hard drive adapter for this laptop, so I'm limited to running from a liveCD. (system won't boot from usb)right now I'm using puppy linux. I can start efilive v4 under wine, and poke around a little. My question is, if I'm just using an rs232 port, will efilive run fine, Since I'm not using any USB for the interface? Anyone know how wine handles rs232? laptop has onboard port, so no usb-serial adapter is needed. system is a dell P3 with 256 megs of ram, I'll likely disable the flash swap once I get everything running and am only running efilive. I'm not set on running puppy, I'll gladly run any live distro that'll cooperate with the lack of hard drive and efilive.
another question... does V7 and V8 handle OBD1 tuning via ALDL? or has it been dropped after v4? This is something that I've been wondering about. I'm assuming that all of these discussions are based around V7 and V8. Thanks for any input or guidance, even tho I'm not sure if I've really asked much. maybe my first question is "do i have any hope?"
If I had a monitor that would run on little enough power for my inverter to run, I'd drag a pc into the car and run that and windows.
EFILive will attempt to write to its configuration files, so it can't be run from a CD.
EFILive V4 should run fine on a real RS232 port, it has trouble with most generic USB-Serial converters.
EFILive V4 does not support tuning. EFILive V7/V8 will most likely not support tuning for ALDL controllers, but we are considering including the ability for customers to edit EEPROM images from ALDL style controllers.
FlashScan V2 and AutoCal hardware both have ALDL scanning capability but it is not available in the V7 software. It is scheduled to be available in the V8 software.
Regards
Paul
it's all in a ramdrive, so write capability is there.
while I dont know the model number of the pcm, from what i gather it's flash based, and I know it's from the in-between years for OBD1 and OBD2. looks like paperclip trick will work but it doesnt, and orielly auto parts is the only local place i've found with a code reader compatible with it, some people refer to it as OBD1.2, not sure if this gives any more info. I thought I saw someone refer to efilive in a couple different articles i read on tuning these, maybe it was just logging.
I'll be sure to share anything that I do happen to find in regards to running efilive on a liveCD, even if efilive turns out to be not what i'm looking for.
Paul ,Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
When I run "lsusb" I get :
"Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0403:e4a1 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd"
which is the V2 and then when I run "dmesg" I get this output :
[ 5901.560031] usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 6
[ 5901.763727] usb 2-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0403, idProduct=e4a1
[ 5901.763740] usb 2-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 5901.763749] usb 2-3: Product: EFILive FlashScan V2
[ 5901.763756] usb 2-3: Manufacturer: EFILive
[ 5901.763763] usb 2-3: SerialNumber: FSV2
[ 5901.763884] usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
So the Vendor and product IDs are there so the Kernel is loading the correct device driver it appears , it is just not passing it to WINE .
Yeah, and hotrodding isn't necessary either. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cougar281
Linux fixed my problem at work with the networking. Now the XP and Vista computers play together better by using a Linux file server.
It took less time to install and config, and has yet to be rebooted.
What pushed me over the edge was buying a new $$$ Win7Pro notebook, and it's a POS. Sure, it boots fast (SSD will do that), but it won't run my CAD software correct (Linux will), it keeps telling me the Bluetooth is hosed (it's not), I bought Halo for Windows (won't run on 7), etc, etc. Pakistan is of no help. It had the same "too many connections" errors when hooked to the work network.
It's a great Television though. But I already had a TV.
Ubuntu Linux 10.04 is pretty slick. It has worked with NO driver disks on all three computers I put it on. It has over 1,000 free applications with it. You plug in a printer, and it just works right away. It fits on USB stick or a single CD, and installs much faster than Windows. It will boot and run from a CD, or it will auto install right beside Windows.
No, it's not perfect. But it's easy to use, stable, and it's free. Linux is on your routers, your phones, DVR's, etc, etc. It fits where Windows won't.
I think Linux would be a huge waste of the developers time from a business stand point