I've been hearing about how awesome V8 is supposed to be for scanning/tuning and reducing flash times by a lot. This transition has been years now, is it going to be ready or am I doing it wrong and everyone is using it already?
Thanks
Kris
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I've been hearing about how awesome V8 is supposed to be for scanning/tuning and reducing flash times by a lot. This transition has been years now, is it going to be ready or am I doing it wrong and everyone is using it already?
Thanks
Kris
You're not doing anything wrong, it is still in transition.
As of now, the V8 Software can (and should) be used for the following tasks:
- Display/playback log files in the V8 scan tool software.
- Display controller info (for most controllers).
- Read and flash all supported controllers in pass-thru or stand-alone modes.
- Setup FlashScan/AutoCal for black box logging, reading and flashing.
- Managing VIN and stream licenses.
- Various tools such as searching through tune files on your computer for specific data (e.g. VIN, serial numbers, controller type etc).
The main things that V8 does not support yet are:
- Pass-thru data logging.
- Retrieve OBDII DTCs and related data.
- Edit tune files.
Those last three items are being worked on and will become available as they are completed.
Regards
Paul
For the last few years now, New vehicle support has only been added to V8 for reading and flashing, so V8 is very much an essential and currently used part of our framework. You cannot tune a late model GM vehicle (E78, E39, E92 etc) or a Cummins vehicle without using V8 for reading and flashing.
We made the decision to deliver a quality product V8, and it's fair to say every component released to date is far superior to V7, and in many cases far superior to comparable products available in the market.
Will V8 ever be finished? Well that depends how you define finished. The plan is you will be able to do everything currently available in V7 within V8 and then some, but I doubt it would ever be finished. Technology is moving at a faster pace than ever before, customer requests, comments and needs are constantly changing, so we continue to make adjustments to our products. For ever item ticked off our development list we add about 5 more 'new' items to the list.
Development continues on the tune tool component of V8 to give customers a single piece of software to navigate, but I'd take the compromise of time (and 2 pieces of software) over a substandard product any day.
Cheers
Cindy
I mean specifically from what v7 can do now. I read about scanning and tuning without having to disconnect to flash, just using it in general.
What I really want to know is when v7 will be obsolete, that's what I'm looking forward to. I have to use v8 for certain things, and v7 for others and I'd perfer to just use 1. Not too concerned with features will be added in the future as we all know there will more than likely be a bunch. Thanks :)
Looks like I'm having a similar problem as the OP.
My current Flashscan firmware version is 2.4.70.
I downloaded the "Upgrading FlashScan.pdf" and noted the following instructions...
Attachment 16543
...about needing to do a multi-step firmware update from a version as old as mine.
But my searches for those older version firmware updates either come up empty, or I find pages like this one (which appears to be too new anyway) that have download links that do not work.
If anybody knows where I can find the older firmware updaters I need, I would appreciate it.
You need to first update to V2.4.72 using the V7 firmware program:
Start->All Programs EFILive->V7->EFILive Firmware Programmer
Regards
Paul
^ I assume that is accomplished by using the file "FSProg_V2_4_72.ffw" that is included with the V7.5x installer?
What had me confused is these instructions: don't seem to apply (at least I couldn't find the "F6: Device Settings" option in the left-hand pane).
Anyway, from what I see here:
Attachment 16545
The boot block has to be updated first. The Flashscan must be in the "normal" mode to do this.
Then the firmware has to be updated, and Flashscan has to be in the dead poll mode to do that. But the Boot Block update automatically puts Flashscan in that mode.
One thing though, this says:
Attachment 16546
FlashScan and AutoCal are designed to be field upgradeable and have been configured with two distinct software modules:
1. The boot block.
2. The firmware.
I only see the one file "FSProg_V2_4_72.ffw" in the V 7.5 folder. (evidently the filename extension changed to ".efw" in the current format)
While this page says "Note: Always update the Bootblock version first"
apparently in the case of the older (legacy) firmware, the upgrade to firmware version V2.04.72 must happen FIRST, as per these instructions.
Sorry if I'm seeming a bit slow on this, but the problem is seeing instructions that conflict, apparently because the legacy stuff is a little different.
Most instructions (that have been written in the past few years) about the firmware and boot block only applies to devices that are running boot block and firmware versions V2.05.xx or later.
Get your device to firmware V2.04.72, then perform the build in boot block upgrade to V2.05.xx, then you can start using the various instructions that you have listed above.
Regards
Paul
Thanks, Paul. The firmware update to 2.04.72 worked fine.
One other thing that might help too.. On this page where it refers to "EFILive Control Panel" it might be worth mentioning that is part of the V8 software.
That explains why I couldn't find the "F6: Firmware option in the left-hand pane" -- because I was looking all over the V7.5 app for it.
OK... it all seems to have worked out OK after all.
I'm going to fill in the blanks so maybe the next guy won't be left guessing which way is which, or wondering where the boot block & firmware update files can be found.
Maybe this will make it easier (from page 3 of "Upgrading FlashScan.PDF"):
Upgrading the boot block and firmware of your FlashScan device:
The following steps, described in detail in the next few pages are required if you have an older Flashscan device that has not had any bootblock or firmware updates since it was new. If you have already performed any of these steps during previous beta updates you do not need to perform them again. Simply start from the first step that you have not performed yet.
A - If FlashScan has boot block V2.04.xx or earlier, perform these steps:
1. Program firmware V2.04.72 using the "EFILive Firmware Programmer"
Attachment 16547
...by pressing the button next to the red arrow to load the file "FSProg_V2_4_72.ffw" (which is in the "V7.5" folder) and then pressing the "Program" button.
2. Upgrade the boot block to V2.05.08 using FlashScan’s menu option (Main Menu: F4 "Options" -> "F1 "Licensing" -> "F4 "Upgrade Bootblock")
3. Program firmware V2.05.21 using the "EFILive Control Panel" in the "V8" folder. The Boot Block & Firmware update files (" *.efw") should be in the V8 folder too. Attachment 16548
4. Follow the instructions in small red print (e.g.: "Please update to version: 2.07.06" as shown above)
in the "EFILive Control Panel" and when you get done it should look like this:
Attachment 16549
Did you get V2 bootblock/firmware flashed to latest...?
Yes, the bootblock/firmware updating method using the "EFILive Control Panel" works very easily.
My confusion related to some of the instructions referring to that method, as opposed to the older method I had to use to get to a new enough version to use the current method.... and I just assumed I needed to retrieve those old firmware updates from "somewhere" not realizing it was already in the v7.5 folder, partly because the older firmware's filename extension is different, so a global search for "*.efw" did not find the firmware named "FSProg_V2_4_72.ffw" that I needed as a starting point. I search this site and using google for "FSProg_V2_4_72.ffw" and didn't come up with much, except a few threads like this thread.
If I had stumbled across this thread instead, it would have answered some of my questions. Unfortunately the keywords "Upgrading FlashScan" or "Upgrading FlashScan.pdf" aren't on that page so a keyword search didn't lead me there.
It's all fine now, and that's why I took the time to write more detailed instructions for the next guy who encounters this problem (who probably must have been marooned with Tom Hanks for his Flashscan to not have been updated as long as mine was)
I did stop at the Aug. 24, 2013 update (V8.2.2 Build 234 FlashScan/AutoCal firmware V2.07.49 V7.5.7 Build 242) for the time being.
I was concerned about the known issues with the Nov 07, 2013 release, but I will probably do that step pretty soon.
Go to this: Update-Nov-21-2013
I updated to V8, and upgraded my flash scan firmware. But I can no longer flash right from the V7.5 editor?? This is a pain! I have to save the file then open it in the V8 flash and tune program then flash it. Also my scanner and Vin change no longer work with the upgraded cable?? Can I revert back to V7?? I hate V8!! So confusing!
Did you update v7 too?
No was I supposed to? I just down loaded the v8 package, installed it, upgraded my flash scans firmware, but it says to use v7.5 editor which I have? And I didn't see a newer version of the scanner??
Yes. When you update the v8 stare and the flashscan biotlock/firmware, you need the matching v7 so that it can communicate with the updated flashscan firmware.
Oh, how do I do that?
You can download from the main efilive page.
http://www.efilive.com/latest/cat/download-efilive
If you've updated v8 through the software then you should have v8 build 258.
If this is the case, download the matching v7 which is build 262.
Both are the July 19 release.
Oh.... I didn't realize that you also had to download efi v7, I thought I allready had that!
Yes download and install both V7 and V8...
V7 provides the scantool/tunetool that you use for tuning (creating log correction maps).
V8 provides V2 BBL/BBR/BBF... in the future it will provide the ability to create log maps and edit tune files.
Hi there im having troubles with my efilive for my 05 yyl duramax. Iv tried to update my v2 to the new 8.2 but every computer iv tried comes up with an error code. 7.5 works fine but the 8.2 wont even start uploading any help would
Hi there im having troubles with my efilive for my 05 yyl duramax. Iv tried to update my v2 to the new 8.2 but every computer iv tried comes up with an error code. 7.5 works fine but the 8.2 wont even start uploading any help would be appreciated thanks
What error code...?
Post some screenshots so I can see what is happening...
After you installed V7 and V8 software from here did you configure V2...?
See here: Setting-up-a-FSV2-from-scratch
Im also have communication issues with V2 flashscan tool. Ive got version v7.5.7 build 268 and on v8.2.2 build 262. This all started when I just tried purchasing a license and redirected me to using v8 software. Error message No device connected please connect a flashcan or autocal usb device. If a device is connected ensure that it is not being used by another application such as the efilive v7.5 scan or tune software. I do have flashcan connected to usb on laptop and running windows 7 and have shut off and turned on computer after downloads and same symptom. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks for info. Tried performing what you suggested and unable to upgrade flashscan. Apparently when I check firmware version tab on control panel v8 software, it wont communicate with flashscan to give me current version of firmware and bootblock, but flashscan does power up and works fine in v7 software mode with pre-existing tunes. When I started to purchase a new tune it refered me to using v8 software for purchase so I installed v8 software and was unable to get it to communicate with flashscan to purchase license. Which brings me to this little dilema. Any other advice appreciated. P.S. Im not the most computer savy person. Been using previous software with no real big issues until new software was implented.
If you FlashScan device has firmware V2.04.xx or earlier, it cannot communicate with any EFILive V8 software, it must be updated to V2.05.xx or later. So you need to use the V7.5 software to upgrade it to V2.05.xx or later.
Run the V7 firmware update software: Start->All Programs->EFILive->V7.5->EFILive Firmware Programmer.
Click on the [Status] button. That should show you the current firmware version (if you firmware version is V2.04.xx or earlier).
If the firmware version is NOT V2.04.72, then click the [...] button and open the FSProg_V2_4_72.ffw file, then click the [Program] button to update your firmware to V2.04.72 then perform the internal boot block upgrade
If the firmware version is already V2.04.72. then close the EFILive Firmware Programmer program and perform the internal boot block upgrade
To perform the internal boot block upgrade:
Select the FlashScan menu options: F4 Options -> F1 Licensing -> F4 Upgrade Bootblock.
The document I pointed to in my previous post explains in detail how to perform the internal boot block upgrade and the additional steps you must perform after the boot block is upgraded. Please read it and follow the instructions carefully.
Regards
Paul
Greatly appreciate this and will give it a try.
I tried clicking on status and states, warning flashscan v2 not in dead poll mode
Thank you so much Blacky. Everything worked great and was able to flash a computer. Again I appreciate you taking the time to explain it even though instructions are good I just realized when you walked me through it, everything started to click in my head. Great support!
My flashScan will not work either. It is showing firmware version 2.05.21 It is also showing Boot Block version 2.05.04 and its showing I need to upgrade to 2.07.07 but will not upgrade
I can only get it to show this if I hook it up in dead poll mode otherwise it will just show it is not connected or responding.
I also have no F4 under licensing to upgrade Boot-block.
Thank you, I now have 2.07.64 for firmwire and 2.07.07 boot block and shows to be working
I guess there is no need to Register the V8 software? I just got a new laptop and I don't see anywhere in V8 to input Serial, Key, and Issued Date. My V7 is already registered.