Sorry about that. I forgot this thread is in the General Diesel section. :doh2:Quote:
Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR
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Sorry about that. I forgot this thread is in the General Diesel section. :doh2:Quote:
Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR
Can someone else besides Ross explain? Sorry for the noob questions...Quote:
Originally Posted by GMPX
You can do away with the egr valves in the earlier duramaxes without having to retune the ecm.
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Originally Posted by GMPX
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Originally Posted by comnrailpwr
You can with a finger stick, but they can be finicky at best sometimes. I'm just glad I went with my 01 LB7 as it has NOTHING on it for emission controls. I was even able to do away with my 95's cat converter as the 01 LB7 doesn't have one.
Ross,
This may have been asked in a different form and I didn't catch it but here goes..
Say I have existing deleted tune files and I modify those existing deleted tune files with this new release, add duration, change timing or whatever I do. Will it automatically implement emission control functions in the tune when it is loaded back onto the truck? Basically making it a non deleted tune file. I read these statements by you Ross and this question came up.
*For any existing tune files you have, the tuning changes will remain untouched, all new tune files created with the next update will not have access to the DPF related functions for USA customers*
*The changes will not affect existing tunes, we can't wind back or undo what has already been done to a file prior to this new update*
Also although it is not a wise decision and should not be done, will it be possible to delete trucks with another tuner, while leaving all other parameters stock, read that file and tune with Efilive? Will the emission control be automatically implemented in the tune when its loaded to the truck. I know the risks involved with reading and modifying "dirty" files. Even of this works I feel all the other tuners will be shortly following these regulations as well.
I doubt this will happen. A good example would be the LB7, it was available in both EGR and NON EGR equipped from the factory. If teh software enabled the emissions equipment automatically, then it would enable emissions controls in tune files that never had them from the factory.Quote:
Originally Posted by comnrailpwr
If that's the case then this will only affect trucks that tunes are built from this new release and all existing trucks will be able to stay deleted and still get all the benefits of future updates? Trucks with existing tunes modified with future releases wont be affected. This wood be great. It would prevent me from having to buy another v2 to tune current deleted customers. I'll just not tune deleted trucks from here on out. Doesn't affect me at all, I don't tune for a living nor do I have plans on owning anything with emissions anytime soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR
Jake, you've quoted the answer....Quote:
Originally Posted by comnrailpwr
The changes will not affect existing tunes, we can't wind back or undo what has already been done to a file prior to this new update
With what other product? (Please don't answer that) I believe we were either the last or almost the last to remove this functionality.Quote:
Originally Posted by comnrailpwr
As quoted above "The changes will not affect existing tunes, we can't wind back or undo what has already been done to a file prior to this new update"
The only change we've made to our software is we've removed specific parameters for certain locations. No other operational changes have been made.
Cheers
Cindy
This is good news thanks. Existing deleted customers will be happy.
I believe one large company still has there tuner to do deletes(at least they still have it on tehre website), and somebody who sells H&S says they will still offer delete tunes(but require an EPA waiver stating it is going on a competition truck that is not road registered).Quote:
Originally Posted by cindy@efilive
From what I am told they always had customers sign the 'off road' waiver?
Maybe those guys need to sit in on SEMA's Diesel EPA meetings. The Off Road Waiver was deemed useless years ago (maybe the 2008 meeting?). SEMA's advice was for the manufacturer to confirm with the relevent DMV that the vehicle was infact unregistered PRIOR to selling any non-compliant product.Quote:
Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR
Cheers
Cindy
I am not pro emission equipment but theoretically it makes for a cleaner future. That is if emissions of the manufacturing of this equipment does not exceed what the end product puts out as a whole. Regardless this is the direction this nation is going so we mise well welcome it and figure out ways we can tune beside it. Who knows, with these professional tuners out there their might be tuning advantages of these systems in the future.
I remember when cat converters were going to mark the end of the world for performance, nowdays just look what an LS engine can achieve with full emissions equipment still fitted.
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Originally Posted by GMPX
He didn't say an off road waiver, he said they would have to get paperwork from the EPA stating that it was a TRUE competition only truck that was not road registered before they would unlock it. Basically said if the EPA would approve it, THEN they would unlock it. I don't know this first hand, just what one of there retailers said.Quote:
Originally Posted by cindy@efilive
Any word on when the new update is coming out? I just PCS'd to Turkey, there is ZERO emissions or any regulation here. Crap as i type this there is a dumpster on fire next to me. Apparently they light it every-night as there is no trash service.
if i were to order a V2 and cummins license for a 6.7 within the next week will it still allow for me to use the current 211 software that is out now?
Yes (as i understand it) just download the software now before it changes
i did download the v7 software but do i need that v8 software that is on the download page? or will i ONLY be running V7?Quote:
Originally Posted by Powder_Keg
You will need both. The 7 is for tuning and 8 is for flashing (currently) the next release will incorporate both into the v8 software as I understand it
ok so all i want to know is can i still buy a V2 flashscan device with the current "old" 211 software and not the new restricted software?
I said from what I have gathered... Yes! You aren't going to get an official answer on the forum from EFILive. Try to PM one of them if you want it from the horses mouth. Or PM Dave Matthews on here or the cummins form as he is a vendor.
The impending software release isn't at the stage of final testing. It will not be released this week, it is possible that it may be released next week. From release, it make take a couple of weeks to filter through to new CD's being shipped with our product via our dealer network. Of course it could take less than a couple of weeks too - it really depends on the dealer and the volume they sell.
Cheers
Cindy
Any timeline in the next release with the cummins updates?? I finally gave up and re loaded my mini max tuner so I didn't have I listen to that damn ding anymore.
Do you guys not know what they are doing different that disables that's dinger? I would think that of you can see more and adjust more that it would be something caught early on.
I'm not bashing and I think you all do great work and gave us more than we could have dreamed for. I guess I'm just lost on why this is still an issue. Especially changing the timer interval isn't a fix but seems like a bandaid that will work if you don't drive longer than 6 hours.
Anybody know where the dinger is so it can be unplugged for the time being?
If either of you send me your tune I can turn the dinger off until its released.
Will do tonight. email or just post it on here?
Email is just fine.
Any vendors still have stock of old V2s?
Old v2's? what do you mean?
V2's whose firmware still supports specific LMM tuning features for offroad vehiclesQuote:
Originally Posted by catman3126
All are currently still able to do so...even using RC2. Even when the restriction comes out, you do not have to upgrade the firmware on your V2 to the latest stuff (but you also cannot upgrade your software to get bug fixes, new tables, etc).Quote:
Originally Posted by wholdc
Fantastic! Was worried about the future of a couple tunes already done now that I need another box. Thanks for the info Erik.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarabEpic22
Any deleted tunes you currently have will remain unaffected with the restrictions in place, even of you use the latest and greatest firmware/software. This is my understanding. The new restricted software cannot undo what is already done to the tune behind the scenes so to speak. Am I right?
If you can change the file(s) now, you wont have any issues down the road. That said, if you have a new customer come in, you wont be able to use their stock tune and delete anything (in the US).Quote:
Originally Posted by wholdc
Correct, there is no way for EFILive to go into an existing tune and change those tables back. I imagine there could be a way, but AFAIK this will NOT be the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by comnrailpwr
[QUOTE=ScarabEpic22;189083]If you can change the file(s) now, you wont have any issues down the road. That said, if you have a new customer come in, you wont be able to use their stock tune and delete anything (in the US).
Great! Thanks again for all the info
So if I upgrade my software and firmware now the restrictions will not apply correct? Also when the software and firmware updates come out that have these restrictions will you let us know so if we wish not to upgrade we do not?
EFILive has NOT made a public announcement regarding Diesel tuning restrictions yet (except for the LML which will debut without these features enabled in the USA). Believe me, they will make a big announcement before they do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun225
There was just a swim release last week, was that it? Will there be a warning on the site before you update to let you know?
Release notes always list the changes made in our software.
Cheers
Cindy