Just upgraded to V2, having issues.

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January 28th, 2012
PRAY

Just upgraded to V2, having issues.

I just upgraded my V1 to V2. I can log data and check DTC's but can't tune. The car I am trying to tune has been tuned with HPT Pro and is saying it is locked. I tried the Alt Keys and that isn't working. I don't have anymore of my cars here to try the V2 on them to see if it is working. When I did the upgrade I don't remember it switching screens on the controller box like the tutorial says it will. But everything else was correct and it says it was successfully updated when I tried again. Did I mess it up? I am trying to use my old desk top V1 Scan Icon and Tune Icons so I can use my old data. Do I have to use my new Desk top Icons. The new windows don't make any sense to me. I opened the tune one and it has nothing in it and the Scan one says it hasn't been released yet. If I do have to use them, how do I transfer all of my old data to them?

The other issue I am having is using the correct pids for 05' and up. The pids I have been using for years in V1 don't all work on the V2. Some are very important. I can't log:

Air Flow Grams/Cyl (GM.CYLAIR_DMA)
Commanded Air Fuel Ratio (GM.AFR)
Manifold Vacuum (GM.MANVAC)
Mass Ari Flow Raw Frequency (SAE.MAFFREQ)

There are some more but those are the critical ones I need. What are the equivalent on the 05' and up cars?

Thanks in advance.
January 28th, 2012
Taz

Hello Pray,

What controller are you trying to log ? LS1-B PCMs use different PIDs than the newer E38 / E67 ECMs. Perhaps connect to a known controller (i.e. one you are certain is not locked, or you have tuned previously), then validate the PIDs.

Regards,
Taz
January 28th, 2012
Blacky

I am not 100% sure but I believe in some situations the HPT software automatically locks the controller. You will probably need to get it unlocked by the person and/or HPT software that did the tune.

The V8 PIDs have slightly different names, the list of changes is shown below.
Also, All PIDs that in V7 ended with _DMA that are not on this list now end with just _M in V8.

There is an option in the V7 software to "Edit->Copy PIDs for export to V8". So you can highlight all the PIDs in a V7 PID list and select "Edit->Copy PIDs for export to V8".
Than go into the V8 software and right click the green section in the BBL setup window and select Paste. That will perform the PID name conversions automatically for you.
Note: that process does not support calculated PID names.

Code:

#BBL Name V7 name #------------- ---------------- SAE SAE WO2AS11 WO2S11_B WO2AS12 WO2S12_B WO2AS13 WO2S13_B WO2AS14 WO2S14_B WO2AS21 WO2S21_B WO2AS22 WO2S22_B WO2AS23 WO2S23_B WO2AS24 WO2S24_B EQ_RAT LAMBDA GM GM ESTDIAG STATE14 ETCTAC1 STATE15 ETCTAC2 STATE16 ETST ETCS MAF_GM MAF MAPS MAP ACHPRS ACP GENFDC ALT-F TP_A TP FRPS FPS BBVPS BBS DESTQ DESTRQ EOP EOPS EGRCMD EGRCOM TRACTRQ ACTTRQ TTQRET SEMRET BARO_B BARO EOLIFE EOL RUNTIME RUN_TIME MAFSD DYNAIR_LS2 EGRCLOSE EGRPINTLE IDLERPM IDLRPM STFTAVG1 SHRTFTAVG1 LTFTAVG1 LONGFTAVG1 STFTAVG2 SHRTFTAVG2 MFFAIL1 MFFAIL MFPASS1 MFPASS LTFTAVG2 LONGFTAVG2 FTV FTP CASE CASEERR CURRCYL CKREFCYL FANDC FANPWMDC GENLDC GENL_DC IGN1CC IGNCOIL1 IGN2CC IGNCOIL2 IGN3CC IGNCOIL3 IGN4CC IGNCOIL4 IGN5CC IGNCOIL5 IGN6CC IGNCOIL6 IGN7CC IGNCOIL7 IGN8CC IGNCOIL8 INJ1CC INJECTOR1 INJ2CC INJECTOR2 INJ3CC INJECTOR3 INJ4CC INJECTOR4 INJ5CC INJECTOR5 INJ6CC INJECTOR6 INJ7CC INJECTOR7 INJ8CC INJECTOR8 O2H11DC O2HTRDCB1S1 O2H21DC O2HTRDCB2S1 VSFPDC FPVSPDDC EOT EOILTS FANSPD_DES FANSPD_ACT TSTATE33 TSTATE02 TSTATE34 TSTATE03 TSTATE35 TSTATE04 TSTATE36 TSTATE05 TSTATE37 TSTATE06 TSTATE39 TSTATE07 TSTATE40 TSTATE08 TSTATE41 TSTATE09 TSTATE42 TSTATE10 TSTATE45 TSTATE12 TSTATE03 TSTATE13 TSTATE04 TSTATE14 TSTATE05 TSTATE15 TSTATE06 TSTATE16 TSTATE07 TSTATE17 TSTATE16 TSTATE18 TSTATE02 TSTATE52 TSTATE08 TSTATE58 TSTATE09 TSTATE59 TSTATE10 TSTATE60 TSTATE11 TSTATE61 TSTATE14 TSTATE64 TSTATE15 TSTATE65 TSTATE17 TSTATE67 TSTATE19 TSTATE69 TCMPSLIP TCSLIP FUEL_MAIN_M FUELQ_MAIN_DMA FUEL_THR_M FUELQ_THR_DMA DSP5_VOLT_M DSP5_VOLTS_DMA SCALCORVE_M SCALEDCORVE_DMA SCALUNCVE_M SCALEDUNVE_DMA TRQCALC_M TORQUECALC_DMA TRQRED_M TORQUERED_DMA IAC_SD_M IAC_STD_DMA IAC_SPN_M IAC_STPN_DMA IAC_SDAC_M IAC_STDAC_DMA IAC_SPNAC_M IAC_STPNAC_DMA IAC_LD_M IAC_LTD_DMA IAC_LPN_M IAC_LTPN_DMA IAC_LPNAC_M IAC_LTDAC_DMA IAC_LDAC_M IAC_LTPNAC_DMA IAC_FRIC_M IAC_FRICTION_DMA
January 28th, 2012
PRAY

Thanks guys. I was trying to tune my buddy's 05'. He bought me the upgrade to do his car and now I can't. I am up at his place 2 hours from my house where my other cars are. I will see if it works when I get home tomorrow. I am just leaving him hanging. So I can't use my old V1 Icons to tune and log with? I am going to have to explore the two new deals.
January 28th, 2012
PRAY

The copy export isn't working on my V7. Is there an upgrade I need?
January 28th, 2012
joecar

PRAY,

What build version are your V7 and V8 at...?

What firmware version is your V2 at...?
January 29th, 2012
PRAY

I tried to use the CD that came with it to do the install but nothing on it worked. I went out to the web site and down loaded the latest and greatest off of here. I will double check exactly which ones I down loaded. The other strange thing to me what there were two different liscence registration cards in the box. One was for Scan only and the other was Scan&Tune. I regestered the Scan&Tune version.
January 29th, 2012
PRAY

I installed the EFILive V7.5.7 Build 180 and EFILive V8.2.1 Build 170. Where do I find out what Firmwhare I installed? I don't see it on the download page.
January 29th, 2012
Taz

Hello Pray,

Now that you have a V2 - you should also have desktop icons for V7.5 Tune Tool, V7.5 ScanTool, V8 Scan and Tune, and EFILive Explorer. When you downloaded build 180 / 170 the Bootblock (2.07.03) and Firmware (2.07.22) would have also downloaded - and will need to be programmed to the V2.

Connect your V2 to your laptop (or whatever computer you are using). Once the V2 has fully booted, open the EFILive Explorer utility. You should see an "F12:Firmware" tab - select this and your Bootblock / Firmware information will be displayed. You may also get a prompt telling you the V2 requires programming.

If the V2 has been programmed with the correct Bootblock / Firmware, you will then need to format the Config Files.

After this close EFILive Explorer, then open V8 Scan & Tune - select "F5: BBX". You will see F2: Scan and F3: Tune sub-menus. In Scan you need to program the PIDs. In Tune you need to program the controllers.

Hopefully some of this helps ...

Regards,
Taz
January 29th, 2012
joecar

In EFILive Explorer (EE) when you view what firmware version your V2 has, the date is important.
January 29th, 2012
PRAY

I went back through the tutorial and got all the updates and what not. Then I looked down on the last bit about the cable selection. Went into the tuner properties and changed the cable to the V2.5(happi) and it worked on the car. I will try the other suggestions from TAZ. I could log and tune with the 7.5 scan and tune but was using my old dash and Pids. Thank goodness I could. That car was messed up. Took a while to figure out all the tables and still have some learning curve to go though to get it nailed but the car ended up running great. Thanks again guys for the support. This is why I reccomend EFI Live to anyone looking for tuning software.

The firmware is as follows:
Bootblock Version 2.07.03
Bootblock Date Jul 25, 2011
Firmware Version 2.07.22
Firmware Date Aug 23, 2011
February 2nd, 2012
joecar

There is later firmware dates in January this year... look in the software update thread.
February 2nd, 2012
joecar

Release-Candidate-8-Jan-06-2012
February 13th, 2012
PRAY

Thanks Joe. Where is the best place to post questions on the differences for tuning? Are the differences in the V2 or are they in the E40/38/what ever? I am trying to tune an E40 05' Vette and the tables are all different. The pids are all different also. I am not sure how things corrolate and I don't want to make any mistakes. I looked in the Petrol section and I don't see anything specific for the E40. I have also heard that they were a one year only and suck. Where should I direct all these issues?
February 13th, 2012
joecar

E40 can be considered Gen IV (and has a forum section so named) which includes E38 and E67.
February 13th, 2012
PRAY

Thanks
February 19th, 2012
08nastymax

im having similar issues with my v2 i downloaded the new software to my lap top an as i went to the efi live explore utility and clicked on th f12 firmwire tab all the info is blank what have i done wrong ive tuned my truck once an went to change the tune an it did all this