We are investigating Wideband O2 and Dynomometer integration for EFILiveV6
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We are investigating Wideband O2 and Dynomometer integration for EFILiveV6
wideband would be very useful. I dont trust calculated torque too much but heck.. why not? That may be all it takes to convince somebody to buy this instead of something else
Blacky,
That been done alright here in Australia, if you talk to Andrew of Mainline Dyno's he has included this in he's OBDII software for the GEN3, i can give you phone number if you want.
Also includes torque from the dyno!.
Cheers Drew
wideband integration? what ya mean? ability to monitor wideband sensors with it? you mean I would only need to buy the sensor instead of the entire monitoring package?
If this is what you mean, Quit B4 I wet myself! :D
What we are designing is the ability for EFILive to merge data from two serial ports. One with the normal PCM data, the other with data from an external device - dyno, wideband or anything really.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDogofWar
Data from both streams wil lbe logged in the same log file, charted on the same charts etc.
So you would need a wideband that has a serial data output.
Paul
That what i am using the only problem 1 serial port?.Would have to put EFILiveV6 via a USB connection, then i would have the serial port for the wideband.
http://www.techedge.com.au this is what i am using very accurate, and have compared to a dyno that have a calibrated wideband 02 sensor and i am i within .1-.2 AFR.
Cost is is under the $1000 mark, but where do you get a low cost very accurate wideband 02 wideband sensor from apart from here.
They built a logger for it as well, that currently can plot the following items:
Engine RPM
Vuser1 (0-5v)
Vuser2 (0-5v)
A/F
Worth looking at Blacky!!.
it would be sooooooooooooooooo great if it could log the wideband info from my techedge wideband.
I have the older version that can only log the a/f output but not also grab rpm so if that output could be pumped into efilive that would be great!!!
definetly contact me if you need test subjects.
Heath
Another vote for Techedge. Very nice setup. It would be sweet to have them work together.
Yes you could make the design...
As for the one serial port? you can buy a PCMCIA with 2 serial ports connected and work that way...
If you use the techedge it would be a nice idea and you guys could have a "kit" bundled and stuff.. You could control it through the program... It would be AWESOME!!!
I would buy it, so when can we expect this integration? that would make tuning muh better, your taking a risk just tuning by stock o2 readings.
I vote for integration with the LM-1 from http://www.innovatemotorsports.com
It beats techedge on both price and features.
If it outputs an RS232 serial data stream, while logging then it should integrate.Quote:
Originally Posted by 66ImpalaLT1
I will ask Innovate about a real time output on the serial port.
Just read on their mailing list that the next version of Innovates firmware will have the ability to output to 3rd party data loggers in real time!
How soon would this be implemented???
I emailed innovative and they said that it does output to a serial port...
even though its not real time one can adjust where it starts and where it ends from the canges in the graph and the TPS... I think..
Paul,
This would be great, but I have an additional related request. I have onboard analog logging for many devices (boost, Fuel pressure, AF, Alky injection....). I find that real time monitoring is not that realistic and I basically merge the data together with an efilive export and analyze in excel or by hand.
I would vote for a feature that would allow the import of data so that it could be charted and viewed in a consolidated manner. I'm now using the system timestamp in my logging, so the correlation is very easy (I can see where it would be difficult without that common key). I basically just need a way to define a new PID and import.
If you do go with real time support, please think about providing the ability to capture more than one input with some type of adapter architecture. In other words, allow people/vendors to write their own real time aquisition adapter and feed data into efilive via a standard Interprocess interface.
We will investigate doing that - it does seem like a useful feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by QUICKSILVER2002
The second serial interface will accept almost any serial data format. The structure of the data stream will be configurable down to the byte/bit level.Quote:
Originally Posted by QUICKSILVER2002
Paul
I just got my QSP-100 4 port serial... so I think we are good to go.. AS long as EFILive supports com 5-9 we are ok ;)
when we'll be seeing this integration? Thanks
any update on the roadmap for this feature?
I would be in tuning heaven if I could get efilive to datalog my A/F output from my techedge wideband.
thanks!!!
I bought the innovatemotorsports one... and I would love to have this feauture too...
It is planned for the V6.3 major release.
V6.2 will be shipping in the next few weeks.
V6.3 is scheduled asap after V6.2
Hopefully early next year.
Regards
Paul
Anyways... a Workaround would be to use the 0-1v simulation or conversion...I know that the innovate one does do it and its compatible with the stock pcm in doing so... So you can log and rely on one side... ;)
great news Paul.
thanks for all the hard work!
my brother has a tweecer for his mustang and what they do is have you hook the output of the wideband (a techedge in this case) to the wire that provides the egr position signal to the computer. Then they do the conversion within the datalogger to convert voltage to A/F.
just wanted to throw that out there as it may be an option for doing it within efilive. Just have to find a good 0 to +5 volt output to the computer to hijack.
Some people claim to have used the AC pressure input.
I have discussed this with some electronics experts but they say that the output from a wideband is not linear and needs to be compensated for in a number of different ways.
I am no electronics expert but couldn't you take information like this
http://techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/wblambda.htm
from the various widebands out there and just convert the voltage to the correct a/f display according to the wideband vendor????
My LM1 has a 0-1v LINEAR output analog...
It can be done via the regular O2 sensors... I will create a plug for it.
Anyways... my LM1 can log realtime through the serial port I believe.. all we need is the addition of an "additional input log" or something similar, or a way to import after it is logged...
Lets hope we see something soon
It's early next year. :D
Any updates about the wideband logging feature? :)
Doh! You're a week or so early.
There will be some cool announcements about EFILive and some new add on software including wideband O2 integration in about a week.
Stay tuned...
Thanks for the info.
I will patiently wait until next week. :shock:
me too :D
I'm also looking forward to it, keep us posted :D
any other updates on this?
I know this is frustrating for you guys (it's frustrating for me too) but we don't want to announce anything until all the peices are in place.
However it will be along the lines of wide band O2 integration, plus more...
Regards
Paul
Any news yet?
I'd be willing to test the wideband integration software out with a Techedge setup if you need some beta testers. :)
Just thought I'd offer that up. :wink:
And me with the LM1
OK I'm confused...I see some new product anounced that has hardware logging support...with future programming...that is great but what happened to the serial port logging input for version 6.3? The 6.3 BETA is out but no mention of this feature many of us were waiting for....any news on this? I sure hope it is still in the works and just being delayed a little. :?