Any chance some day of Flashscan being able to cycle the ABS systems? Currently the only way to do this with C5 Corvettes is with a Tech 2 (about $3000). It's the only function that is left which requires a visit to the dealership.
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Any chance some day of Flashscan being able to cycle the ABS systems? Currently the only way to do this with C5 Corvettes is with a Tech 2 (about $3000). It's the only function that is left which requires a visit to the dealership.
I think you may find the BCM handles the ABS, they are a different kettle of fish to the ECM and TCM and are very application specific.
Im sure Ross can give more info.
You're right. Too bad, though. $3000 just to bleed the ABS is absurd. But it's either that or a trip to the evil dealership. My car shudders just thinking about it. It's never seen a dealership since delivery!:D
If EFILive can't do it, possibly look into the OBD2 software at www.obd2.com. I'm not 100% sure if it can do what you want, but it has some bi-directional stuff and is supposed to be able to communicate with all the modules.
Are you sure that's the case? I know that there are a number of vehicles with the Delco systems that do normally require a TEC-II, but even then there is a procedure to bleed them w/o one. Usually there are bleeder screws on the modulator and a procedure to trick the ABS module into releasing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mnotx
Open the front bleeder screw, bleed the modulator, then bleed the front brakes. Drive the car over 5 mph and it resets the ABS to the home position.
Then you can bleed the rear brakes.
But the Corvette uses a Bosch system and as I understand it the brakes can be bled normally w/o impacting the ABS. The only time you need a TEC-II is if you have air trapped in the module in which case it would need to be used to actuate the valves.
Having bled the brakes on a lot of S-sereis Saturn's including replacing all the fluid on just about every one I have owned this has me perplexed. ..
Yeah, you don't need it for everyday bleeding, just when you replace the master and end up with air in the ABS lines. If there is another way to activate them, I am sure interested. I can't for the life of me understand why they wouldn't allow that particular command be implemented somewhere from the vehicle.......except to force you to go to a dealership.
I sent them an e-mail. Thanks, Cougar!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cougar281
Yea I was curious as to the EVAP cycling a few years ago. Paul/Ross - what is the status on "legacy" BCM research? Dead, waiting for market, or still digging?
We have put a lot of time/effort into bidi controls recently. We now have a system that can communicate with multiple modules - not just ECM/TCM. If we can capture the commands to the ABS or BCM or other modules, then we now have the ability to add them into the software.Quote:
Originally Posted by emarkay
So it is possible, just we haven't researched it yet.
Regards
Paul
Well when I get the Camaro back, tell me what to do to assist in getting this. Imagine, every GM motorhead's dream; full TechII emulation!
MRK,
I can already do the EVAP testing using the current EFILive bidi controls... is this what your talking about...?
I'd like to see CASE relearn for the E67 and eventually individual gear selection for dyno tuning of my 5L40 (M82) transmission. I know the last one is a long shot, but hopefully the BIDI commands turn out to be the same as another transmission.
As it stands now I finally have transmission PIDs in the latest black box beta using the default E67 automatic selection.
I just purchased another CAN bus reader CANUSB where do I sign up to start pumping messages to my 5L40 until I get something to work?
When dumping DTCs to flash, it would be nice if they could be read in by EFILive to get the details in a more readable form than:
[DTCS]
P0300=PCM,-F--X-CS
[Freeze Frame PCM 0]
; Freeze Frame Empty.
[Freeze Frame PCM 1]
$0002=$0300
FUELSYS1=OL
FUELSYS2=OL
LOAD_PCT=3.1%
ECT=36°C
a.s.o. ...
In the meantime, see post #38: showthread.php?t=7978&page=4
Absolutely, that is what the V8 software is designed to do. All data "captured" by FlashScan (with V2.05.xx firmware) is set up to be easily readable by computer applications i.e. in the ubiquitous *.ini file format.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry
When EFILive V8 is released, it will automatically send the command to FlashScan V2 to capture all that data, then it will automatically pull that data back to the PC via USB. Then it will format and display all the data with extra descriptions in easy to navigate tables.
I.e. you click one button on the PC/laptop and get all that data presented in the EFILive software.
Right now, what you're seeing is the bare-bones "under the hood" stuff.
You won't even need EFILive_Explorere.exe when the version 8 software comes out. EFILive_Explorer.exe is really just a diagnostic tool for "poking around" inside FlashScan. It has only been made available so that beta testers can actually copy data to/from FlashScan until V8 is ready.
Regards
Paul
I'm not sure how hard this would be, or if any one else would think that it's a good idea or not, but I'd like to see a "commanded fuel" and commanded spark" calculator included in the TuneTool. My thought was to have a couple of dialog boxes up the top of the screen that gave an indication of the final commanded fuel and spark depending on all the variables involved. I know that this is not simply running a few formulae, as there are a few different engine conditions involved in the final figures. However I was thinking that when the TuneTool is linked to a log file in ScanTool and the required PIDs had been logged, you could use this to make adjustments and instantly see the final commanded fuel or spark.
Simon
We've kicked this idea around a few times and it is difficult because the final spark and fuel are made up of many lookup tables. Each table is dependent on various inputs such as MAP, MAF, RPM, IAT, ECT and AFR. Not to mention all the adjustments due to learned airflows and learned fuel trims.Quote:
Originally Posted by swingtan
It would be a very big task to do and would almost require that we develop a virtual engine simulator to get it accurate. But it would be a fantastic tuning aid if it could be done.
Regards
Paul
The ability to log ECM and TCM PIDS at the same time in the Scan tool would be nice, maybe have a E38/LS1/etc "Auto" selection for scanning like in the V2. :)
I would like a function that adds spark until I get knock retard or a specified spark valued is reached. I would also like to specify the
the coordinates in the high/low octane spark table to effectively do this. Similar function for WOT PE multiplier at a given rpm range.
You can do that now with the Black Box Logging beta software. Then open the log file in the existing V7 software.Quote:
Originally Posted by XLR8NSS
The ability to scan two controllers at once will be fully supported in the EFILive V8 software.
Regards
Paul
The bidirectional controls (DVT controls) will allo wyou to manually add spark and/or fuel. We've added extensive updates to the DVT controls in the latest beta software.Quote:
Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06
Adding spark/fuel per cell is not supported yet. We had it in version 5 of the software but it was replaced with functionality in the RoadRunner device. We may re-implement it in version 8.
Regards
Paul
Yes, I see your point. When I first thought about it I was thinking it would be easy, then when I considered the number of parameters needed I realised it would be much harder. that's when I thought about linking it to the ScanTool. If you logged the required PID's, then you could move the "chart inspector" to specific points to see what the commanded fuel "should be". then you could make changes to the tables in the TuneTool and as it's still linked to the ScanTool, it would be able to pick up the required map and table points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
The only other way I could think of was to have a table that had inputs for all the required parameters that you manually filled out. It would then check the tune file to see what the final commanded fuel / spark / air should be.
Simon.
You've just described EFILive's RTACS: Real Time Auto Calibration System. It is available with RoadRunner :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by swingtan
It is not available for controllers without RoadRunner support.:ranting:
Regards
Paul
Yes..... RR..... What I'd do to be able to try one on my E38. Trying to work out fueling for OL is doing my head in! Surely you have an alpha copy of "Virtual RoadRunner TM" for the E38 given it's more powerful CPU......Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
I've got a RoadRunner, but have not installed. Do I need a software upgrade if I use it?
If I install the RR and install my current tune, should I expect the car to run and operate exactly as it did before installation?
I have held back on installation because I haven't investigated possible problems with it yet. Words of advice about install welcome...
BTW writing on it, J1BLUE M1190 CYDU This look correct for my car?
Given that CAN scanning can be done at a much higher rate than the old VPW used by the LS1's, it might be worth re-visiting the whole scan tool based spark and fuel control.Quote:
Originally Posted by swingtan
I'll keep it on the "to do list".
Regards
Paul
I recommend running at least EFILive version V7.5.3Quote:
Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06
Yes, 100% exactly the same. Except for the relearning (fuel and idle airflow) that will be needed the same as it would after a normal reflash.Quote:
Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06
You should be able to hook it up to your PC via the USB and full-reflash it via the RoadRunner control panel with your current PCM's tune. Then just swap it out with your existing PCM and you're good to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06
Keep your existing PCM in the car with a wrench so that you can swap it back in in case there is a problem with the RR. There shouldn't be any problems, I drove around for 6 months with the RR PCM in my car. But better to be safe than sorry.
Not sure, but if you can program your *.tun file into it then it is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06
Regards
Paul
any idea when the tune side of things will be available from the V2 unit in BBL mode, not overly fussed about being able to write tunes from the V2 but would be nice if we could read them.
Is this something your working on at the moment or something that is planned for the future.
"No RoadRunner USB Device can be found" When I plug it in to the USB, it creates a com port. :damnit1:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
getting closer, got it to communicate w/rr. When I try and program the device it says its not licensed, yet I have entered the serial #. ????????????
Does it sayQuote:
Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06
1. RR is not licensed
or does it say
2. PCM is not licensed?
If 1, then you need an RR license. Let me know.
If 2, then you should not be using the normal reflash toolbar icon. Instead use the reflash toolbar icon in the RR control panel in EFILive.
Regards
Paul
Yes please! Live tuning is one of the largest "nice" bits of tuning. It gets you that last 20% of power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
Also from my other post, a built in mini lookup of DTC error codes from the v2 tool so you can decifer that P0102 means etc.
RRserial#0108010219210106Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
I was using the Road Runner dialog box. Also, when I put this serial in and start the program, it says the program is in demo mode too.
Ok, I guess I need a RR license.
I know but, it's too much like work to get all the PIDS I want in BBL right now. :P Plus, BBL keeps hanging at random times on my E38 right now. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
When the bugs are worked out we are gonna be in for a treat. :)
Send me your RR purchase details and FlashScan serial number and I'll try and locate your RR license. Send to [email protected]Quote:
Originally Posted by TFZ_Z06
Regards
Paul
Its getting higher on the priority list :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ringram
That is being done right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ringram
Paul
Don't know if this has been mentioned before ... it would be nice if V2 remembered the PIDs last selected ... every time I hook it back up, I need to select the PIDs again ... combined with the situations where I get an error after low-power mode and have to disconnect to get BB working again makes it even more of a pet peeve ... :/
The next update allows you to select up to 4 "quick select" PID lists. You can select them from any menu by pressing one of the hotkeys Ctrl+F1 thru Ctrl+F4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry
You can start logging by pressing the 0 key.
So after power-up, two key strokes will let you log any of 4 preselected set of PIDs.
You assign PID selections to each hot key in the Options.ini file.
Regards
Paul
My wish for the next version, can the rows in B5908-Fuel Mixture Spark Correction be displayed as AFR instead of EQ? It would make it alot easier IMO for those of use AFR instead of EQ...
The next version (version 8) has user definable axis units and user definable data units. You can set up any table exactly how you want it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackGMC
Regards
Paul
You mean you don't remember them all by now :grin:Quote:
Originally Posted by ringram
Cheers,
Ross