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    Thanks. I understood that the first time it was...

    Thanks. I understood that the first time it was mentioned.
    Still hoping there will eventually be a way to correct this problem instead of just avoiding it.
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    OK, two months later... If you have a way of...

    OK, two months later...

    If you have a way of looking at the internal structure of the hex file to determine the table size is 17 x 22 instead of the expected 23 x 23, can you also see the values...
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    OK, it's now been six weeks since the nature of...

    OK, it's now been six weeks since the nature of this problem was identified.

    I hope I am not coming across as hitting the panic button to ask if there is a solution forthcoming?
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    Sticky: Thanks for posting that. As it turned out, I...

    Thanks for posting that.
    As it turned out, I missed that more detailed explanation on the next page (page 4).
    For some reason, it was displaying as side-by-side pages, so the next page I saw when...
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    Sticky: Yes, the bootblock/firmware updating method using...

    Yes, the bootblock/firmware updating method using the "EFILive Control Panel" works very easily.

    My confusion related to some of the instructions referring to that method, as opposed to the older...
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    Sticky: Thanks. I should have put a link here to a...

    Thanks.

    I should have put a link here to a series of posts starting here
    (where Paul had helped point me in the right direction over the weekend)
    especially the more detailed summary post I...
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    Just in case anybody else stumbles across this...

    Just in case anybody else stumbles across this thread first (like I did), go here:
    http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?8426-Installing-the-V8-Software&p=203718&viewfull=1#post203718
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    Sticky: OK... it all seems to have worked out OK after...

    OK... it all seems to have worked out OK after all.
    I'm going to fill in the blanks so maybe the next guy won't be left guessing which way is which, or wondering where the boot block & firmware...
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    Sticky: Thanks, Paul. The firmware update to 2.04.72...

    Thanks, Paul. The firmware update to 2.04.72 worked fine.




    One other thing that might help too.. On this page where it refers to "EFILive Control Panel" it might be worth mentioning that is...
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    Sticky: ^ I assume that is accomplished by using the file...

    ^ I assume that is accomplished by using the file "FSProg_V2_4_72.ffw" that is included with the V7.5x installer?

    What had me confused is these instructions: don't seem to apply (at least I...
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    Sticky: Looks like I'm having a similar problem as the...

    Looks like I'm having a similar problem as the OP.

    My current Flashscan firmware version is 2.4.70.

    I downloaded the "Upgrading FlashScan.pdf" and noted the following instructions...
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    Sticky: I have an older Flashscan (license issue date is...

    I have an older Flashscan (license issue date is March 2008).

    The Firmware reported in EFILive 7.5 is 2.4.70.

    I assume that "2.4.70" is the same as 2.04.xx as listed in the "Upgrading...
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    No, but when I asked that question, I had no way...

    No, but when I asked that question, I had no way to know that 20x20 table was not another misinterpretation of a 23x23 table.
    joecar's subsequent answer indicates otherwise, that any table size...
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    Thanks... OK, so that means you must have a way...

    Thanks... OK, so that means you must have a way of looking at the internal structure to determine the 17 x 22 table size.

    This makes me wonder how tuners who've done tunes for LMM vans have gotten...
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    Now that I've stared at it long enough, I also...

    Now that I've stared at it long enough, I also see what the problem may be...

    OK, hopefully it's easy to see what I did here:
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    Every column of cells in the out of whack triangular section...
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    Thanks... But I see the same number of rows...

    Thanks...

    But I see the same number of rows (23) and columns (23) in both tables.
    However, I am using the northern hemisphere standard for counting ;)
    (sorry couldn't resist; don't hold it...
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    From: gonenomad@xxxx.com To: support@efilive.com...

    From: gonenomad@xxxx.com
    To: support@efilive.com
    Subject: re: why is this OEM LMM table so strange?
    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:38:06 -0700

    I sent it again just now. You can also access the tune...
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    From: gonenomad@xxxx.com To: support@efilive.com...

    From: gonenomad@xxxx.com
    To: support@efilive.com
    Subject: re: why is this OEM LMM table so strange?
    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:38:06 -0700

    It's also posted here:...
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    Email sent. FWIW, the oem tune is posted here...

    Email sent.

    FWIW, the oem tune is posted here:
    http://www.tunefiledepot.com/calibrations/stock/GMC/2010%20GMC%20Savana%20Truck%20Automatic%20LMM%206.6%20Litre%20(12628594).tun
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    Any idea why this OEM table is so strange?

    Seeking help from EFI tech support...

    Why is this 3500 LMM van high altitude table (in the unmodified oem tune)
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    Also, none...
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    Ever considered adding something like stunt...

    Ever considered adding something like stunt planes have on their exhausts?
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    Might be easier :rolleyes:
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    Ever considered adding something like the stunt...

    Ever considered adding something like the stunt planes have on their exhausts?
    Might be easier :rolleyes:
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    ^ I have an LMM van, and I'd like to see if...

    ^ I have an LMM van, and I'd like to see if they have the latest oem calibration. Since you can check that & download the latest, I will get the VIN.

    The other OEM tunes I would like to get (if...
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    I guess I'm the only one since 2005 (nearly nine...

    I guess I'm the only one since 2005 (nearly nine years ago!) to try the url in the OP?

    http://www.efi101.com
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    Sticky: No Ben, we do not live in the land with the most...

    No Ben, we do not live in the land with the most pollution. And hasn't been since before the 2004/2007/2010 implementation of stricter emissions controls on diesel automobiles.

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    Thanks...
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